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bathsh3ba · 13/08/2021 15:44

I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of 'LTB' responses to this but I'm not going to do that just yet so would really appreciate some suggestions of the best way to reply.

Known this guy about 3 months. For context, we are both long-time divorced and haven't dated since our divorces. We were both cheated on. We are both very cautious and he is exceptionally so and very indecisive (this comes out in other parts of his life as well).

During these 3 months we've effectively been dating but we haven't really put a label on it. With the exception of the periods I'm about to describe, we message several times a day, see each other once or twice a week. He is lovely in the vast majority of ways and I have fallen for him. He has always been extremely respectful apart from see below.

The big problem is that his response to any perceived conflict or any difficult feelings is not just to go into his man cave but to disappear. Basically, he blocks me for a few days. Then he comes back and apologises - but obviously it has its effect on me. It happened twice earlier in the year before we actually met (so before the 3 month clock started), then once three weeks ago, and then again just now, but this time is a little different.

When he came back 3 weeks ago he was clearly still very anxious. He said he wasn't ready for a relationship but he wanted to be friends. He also told me I 'should date other people'. I didn't want to lose him so I agreed but we quickly slipped back into effectively dating, so we had a conversation and agreed we 'wouldn't call it dating but we were obviously more than friends'.

Things were going well, we were getting closer, then he clearly got anxious again and started backing off saying he felt pressured (but didn't block me). So in what I can only describe as a fit of pique, I re-registered on the dating site, thinking 'well, he told me to date....'.

About ten minutes later, I get a text saying he has seen me on there and wishes me luck and immediately I'm blocked.

However, this time he didn't block me on Messenger so I got hold of him on there and asked what on earth was going on. It turned out that he thought that after our conversation about being more than friends we would be exclusive. He had suspended his profile but got an email to say I had logged on, so logged on and saw me and he now feels I was deceitful and unfaithful and he doesn't know if he can trust me.

That was Monday. Since then, I remain blocked on everything except Messenger but he is talking to me sporadically on there. He says he is sorry he has made such a fuss but it's a big deal to him and he doesn't know what he wants to do. Most recently, I just asked if he was okay and he replied that he thought he was and asked if I was.

Do I tell him the truth, that I'm not okay? Do I issue some kind of ultimatum? Or do I just give him time?

I'm not going to block him because I don't block people unless they're harassing me repeatedly. And I'm not going to ignore him because I'm not rude.

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 13/08/2021 15:52

So he's effectively 'punishing' you by withdrawing, then comes back with whatever excuse he can make up to cover up for it.

Please don't continue with this. You can't seem to communicate, he's sulky and controlling and I can't see any future in this other than a lot of stress and heartache.

Just tell him that you're not OK. You don't appreciate being blocked every time you do something that he perceives as incorrect, and instead of talking to you about it like an adult, it's as if he stamps off to have a tantrum like a child. And you don't want to be in that sort of relationship.

Put your foot down. If you don't establish some boundaries now it will just get worse.

Opaljewel · 13/08/2021 15:56

Why is worth the effort? It's been 3 months. It shouldn't be this hard. He's showing you who he is op. He's not serious about you. He even told you to date other people ffs. I know you don't want to be told to LTB but what else can you seriously do with such a game player? And he is playing games with you. You're affective telling him how much you'll put up with. Sad

Opaljewel · 13/08/2021 15:57

Why is it affectively

Damn my phone. Apologies!

Sparklfairy · 13/08/2021 16:00

He had suspended his profile but got an email to say I had logged on, so logged on and saw me and he now feels I was deceitful and unfaithful and he doesn't know if he can trust me.

You know this is a lie right? He categorically did not get an email saying you had logged on.

He was on there and wants the freedom to date other people, but doesn't like you doing the same. Get rid of him.

SiobhanSharpe · 13/08/2021 16:03

I agree with Sparkl -- that immediately stood out as a whopper.

Kithic · 13/08/2021 16:05

You've been 'dating' for 3 months and he is already making you feel bad.

THREE MONTHS!! this is your 'honeymoon' period, where every time you speak you should be getting flutters.

Get out, don't proceed, LTB you are worth so much more

Shoxfordian · 13/08/2021 16:05

You’re wasting your time with him

nahdenmardybum · 13/08/2021 16:10

Nah, fuck that! Block him and move on. As everyone has said it should not be this hard after 3 months. Or ever really.

Famousinlove · 13/08/2021 16:13

@Sparklfairy

He had suspended his profile but got an email to say I had logged on, so logged on and saw me and he now feels I was deceitful and unfaithful and he doesn't know if he can trust me.

You know this is a lie right? He categorically did not get an email saying you had logged on.

He was on there and wants the freedom to date other people, but doesn't like you doing the same. Get rid of him.

I was going to say the same thing, that's bullshit. no dating site tells you when other people have logged on, very creepy
Skiptheheartsandflowers · 13/08/2021 16:15

@Sparklfairy

He had suspended his profile but got an email to say I had logged on, so logged on and saw me and he now feels I was deceitful and unfaithful and he doesn't know if he can trust me.

You know this is a lie right? He categorically did not get an email saying you had logged on.

He was on there and wants the freedom to date other people, but doesn't like you doing the same. Get rid of him.

Excellent point. What a crock of shit.

Reply and say no, you're not ok, because you don't appreciate being lied to, and you don't like people trying to preach at you from the moral high ground when you've done nothing wrong. And that the repeated blocking is both tedious and childish, and at some point he'll find he's done It once too often.

AllyBama · 13/08/2021 16:18

Oh darling, in the nicest way possible - raise your bar. You can do so much better than this!

He is 100% lying about receiving an email about you logging on, in what actual circumstances would that happen? He saw you on the dating site because he’s still active on the same site!

He is honestly not worth all the headspace you are giving him. Tag and release.

Journeynotdestination · 13/08/2021 16:19

Run a mile OP! My god, surely you are worth more than this. He’s a headcase. And he’s obviously on the app too… the email line is a gargantuan LIE.

Makes my skin crawl on your behalf.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/08/2021 16:20

FGS, op, where are your standards and boundaries? This man is a controlling, gaslighting, manipulative prick, and you don't want to dump him yet? Honestly, how many more massive red flags do you need to see? And BTW, refusing to communicate with someone you've only dated for 3 months is not rude, it's called having boundaries.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 13/08/2021 16:21

I'm not going to block him because I don't block people unless they're harassing me repeatedly. And I'm not going to ignore him because I'm not rude.

Well then, more fool you.

It's been 3 moths and you're putting up with this shit. Fuck that!

Why would he be notified that you had logged on to a dating website?

Luannee · 13/08/2021 16:21

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fallfallfall · 13/08/2021 16:22

Honestly do you really not see that 1) he’s on the dating site and 2) enjoying life without you 50% of the time. He’s casting a wider net and probably has another or a few other ladies he’s working.
Your wasting your time.

Notagain20 · 13/08/2021 16:22

Why are you ruling out leaving him?

spongedod · 13/08/2021 16:24

I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of 'LTB' responses to this but I'm not going to do that just yet

so you know then?

what's the point of this thread? just to irritate people?

Here we have a classic manipulator. 3 months in and you can see it.

you are either being stupid or goady in writing this post.

MsPavlichenko · 13/08/2021 16:25

He’s a controlling arsehole three months in . This is as good as he gets, it’ll get worse and before you know it you’ll be emerged in an abusive relationship.

I’d not believe a word he’s told you including his being cheated on. You should in fact LTB and block. You’ll remember this advice with regret down the line if you don’t.

HollowTalk · 13/08/2021 16:26

There is no way a dating site would have a system where you're emailed when a particular person logs on. Why would they do that? It could be harassing for their clients. He must have been on there anyway.

OrchestraOfWankery · 13/08/2021 16:27

Oh dear OP. He's feeding you a load of bollocks. Wise up and move on.

He was emailed that you were online? Yeah, right Hmm

He wants you waiting patiently in the background while he busily explores other options

SilverRoe · 13/08/2021 16:30

How the hell would he have gotten an email to say you logged in? More like he was on there and saw your profile i bet!

He sounds horribly manipulative. Blocking someone for days is such a childish and stonewalling thing to do. I ‘dated’ someone like this and it was pathetic, he used it to avoid any difficult conversations. It doesn’t get better.

Unanananana · 13/08/2021 16:30

Drama! Why bother?

Just block and move on for goodness sake! Why the angst over a dickhead?!

Loubiemoo · 13/08/2021 16:31

He’s lying to you and most likely cheating on you as well. If you’re having sex l suggest you get yourself checked.

Bimblybomeyelash · 13/08/2021 16:32

Just message him to let him Know that this isn’t working for you. Do you really want this ‘relationship’ to drag on for any longer? Because it clearly isn’t going to change or Improve. Or do you want to move on and seek a more rewarding relationship elsewhere?