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bathsh3ba · 13/08/2021 15:44

I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of 'LTB' responses to this but I'm not going to do that just yet so would really appreciate some suggestions of the best way to reply.

Known this guy about 3 months. For context, we are both long-time divorced and haven't dated since our divorces. We were both cheated on. We are both very cautious and he is exceptionally so and very indecisive (this comes out in other parts of his life as well).

During these 3 months we've effectively been dating but we haven't really put a label on it. With the exception of the periods I'm about to describe, we message several times a day, see each other once or twice a week. He is lovely in the vast majority of ways and I have fallen for him. He has always been extremely respectful apart from see below.

The big problem is that his response to any perceived conflict or any difficult feelings is not just to go into his man cave but to disappear. Basically, he blocks me for a few days. Then he comes back and apologises - but obviously it has its effect on me. It happened twice earlier in the year before we actually met (so before the 3 month clock started), then once three weeks ago, and then again just now, but this time is a little different.

When he came back 3 weeks ago he was clearly still very anxious. He said he wasn't ready for a relationship but he wanted to be friends. He also told me I 'should date other people'. I didn't want to lose him so I agreed but we quickly slipped back into effectively dating, so we had a conversation and agreed we 'wouldn't call it dating but we were obviously more than friends'.

Things were going well, we were getting closer, then he clearly got anxious again and started backing off saying he felt pressured (but didn't block me). So in what I can only describe as a fit of pique, I re-registered on the dating site, thinking 'well, he told me to date....'.

About ten minutes later, I get a text saying he has seen me on there and wishes me luck and immediately I'm blocked.

However, this time he didn't block me on Messenger so I got hold of him on there and asked what on earth was going on. It turned out that he thought that after our conversation about being more than friends we would be exclusive. He had suspended his profile but got an email to say I had logged on, so logged on and saw me and he now feels I was deceitful and unfaithful and he doesn't know if he can trust me.

That was Monday. Since then, I remain blocked on everything except Messenger but he is talking to me sporadically on there. He says he is sorry he has made such a fuss but it's a big deal to him and he doesn't know what he wants to do. Most recently, I just asked if he was okay and he replied that he thought he was and asked if I was.

Do I tell him the truth, that I'm not okay? Do I issue some kind of ultimatum? Or do I just give him time?

I'm not going to block him because I don't block people unless they're harassing me repeatedly. And I'm not going to ignore him because I'm not rude.

OP posts:
SixesAndEights · 13/08/2021 17:16

I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of 'LTB' responses to this but I'm not going to do that just yet

Why on earth not?!

I agree with every other PP who's suggested you do just that.

grapewine · 13/08/2021 17:19

What's your payoff for staying in this mess? There must be one, or you'd leave. He's taking you for a ride and a complete mug.

Gilda152 · 13/08/2021 17:21

You do want to leave him and that's your call.

He's incredibly emotionally immature and his own insecurities re-inforce that behaviour and make him pull these daft stunts. That's my summary of this.

Do I think he's purposely abusive? No. Do I think he's absolutely useless at handling and discussing his own emotions? Yes, demonstrably.
Do I think he's worth your time? Well nobody's perfect so you might think that he is with a bit of adjustment (which he'll probably never recognise is needed and won't do the work on himself) , but I would say that you can more than likely do better.

Miseryl · 13/08/2021 17:22

Reminds me of an ex that I sadly wasted two years and and probably took another two years to get over fully. Don't be me.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/08/2021 17:23

It's astounding and very sad that you are allowing this kind of nonsense into your life.

Keepitonthedownlow · 13/08/2021 17:26

He sounds demented

CheeseCrackersAndChutney · 13/08/2021 17:40

You are going to have to call this quits I’m afraid Op Sad

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 13/08/2021 17:44

@Aquamarine1029

FGS, op, where are your standards and boundaries? This man is a controlling, gaslighting, manipulative prick, and you don't want to dump him yet? Honestly, how many more massive red flags do you need to see? And BTW, refusing to communicate with someone you've only dated for 3 months is not rude, it's called having boundaries.
Nothing else needs adding!
HoikingUpMyBigGirlPantss · 13/08/2021 17:49

You've been seeing each other for just 3 months and should be in the honeymoon period- but he's already hard work! He's an an emotional bully and withdrawing from you if he doesnt get his own way. What positives do you get out of this "relationship"? Why are you letting someone treat you like this? If he cant act like an adult and discuss any issues like are you in a relationship or not then chalk it up to experience and move on.

TheFoundations · 13/08/2021 17:53

This is what a post about a 3 month relationship should look like:

'We go to some really nice places and we make each other laugh a lot. It's intellectually stimulating, and we have trouble keeping our hands off each other'

Now look at what you posted.

Can you see the difference or do they look similar to you?

Blueskytoday06 · 13/08/2021 18:15

He's not ready to date. He's told you. His actions tell you. I don't think he's a B in LTB but you do need to move on. Honestly do you really want all that drama?? There are plenty more fish.

B1rdflyinghigh · 13/08/2021 18:23

I was worn out reading that!

It might have been 3 months, but with all this blocking/unblocking rubbish, I've bet you've only actually been together 6 weeks, if that!

If he's that "insecure", he shouldn't even be dating. Block him.

Giotto479 · 13/08/2021 18:40

🚩 these are fluttering all over the shop. It’s not a healthy dynamic and I know you don’t want to Leanne him, but honestly you’re in the foothills of it. It really won’t get any better.

DowntonCrabby · 13/08/2021 18:43

Oh to fuck with all this bollocks. He’s already more work and higher drama than most toddlers OP, a long term future with him sounds like torture.

Tulips15 · 13/08/2021 18:47

@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy

So he's effectively 'punishing' you by withdrawing, then comes back with whatever excuse he can make up to cover up for it.

Please don't continue with this. You can't seem to communicate, he's sulky and controlling and I can't see any future in this other than a lot of stress and heartache.

Just tell him that you're not OK. You don't appreciate being blocked every time you do something that he perceives as incorrect, and instead of talking to you about it like an adult, it's as if he stamps off to have a tantrum like a child. And you don't want to be in that sort of relationship.

Put your foot down. If you don't establish some boundaries now it will just get worse.

Agree
NotWanting · 13/08/2021 18:56

He didn't get a fucking email saying you had logged on.

Seriously, this is crazy and you must be enjoying it to keep putting up with it. Good luck.

SStopRaisingHim · 13/08/2021 18:59

Jesus Christ. Life is too short to spend energy or mind space on pricks like this.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 13/08/2021 19:00

He said he wasn't ready for a relationship but he wanted to be friends

He's literally told you flat out that he doesn't want a relationship with you. What more does he have to do before you accept that?

MyHairNeedsASnip · 13/08/2021 19:04

"10 minutes later..." he's on there so much he noticed a 'new' person 10 minutes later. This man swipes right so much he runs out of people, if he saw your profile within minutes.

He's grooming you for a lifetime of walking on eggshells and changing your behaviour so as not to upset him.

Janaih · 13/08/2021 19:04

Ffs what a manipulate lying shit. Delete and block and move on with your life. It's not supposed to be this hard. Indeed it should just be fun 3 months in!

FatJan · 13/08/2021 19:04

"someone is treating me really badly but don't tell me to leave him cos I won't"

lmao ok then.

CoopsMalloops · 13/08/2021 19:06

If you’re going to continue this with him then your post about his behaviour won’t be your last.

Good luck.

katieg03 · 13/08/2021 19:15

Next time he unblocks you and gives you grief just reply with who is this??? Honestly I'd delete his number and move on. 12 weeks of this drivel.. you deserve better way too much hard work

flameycakes · 13/08/2021 19:16

Three months and you're having conflicts? Ever think maybe you're just not compatible? And how can you leave someone you don't live with ffs?

HalzTangz · 13/08/2021 19:24

He's lying.

His account wasn't suspended

He was active and online and browsing we he saw your profile.

Apps don't send members emails to say people have logged on