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Married to someone with ADHD: Support thread

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Deedee121 · 04/07/2021 09:34

I'm looking for some support really. I've reached the end of my tether and am getting my ducks in a row.

We've been together for 20 years and married 16. I can no longer deal with the chaos, snapping at me and shouting at the children.

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Scautish · 04/07/2021 13:19

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ToLiveInPeace · 04/07/2021 13:31

@woodswoman Agreed - diagnosis and medication don't fix everything by any means. What makes the difference is feeling part of a partnership where both people want to support each other.

OneGlamMama · 04/07/2021 13:35

@ZoomedOut - I feel the EXACT SAME. We each get a day 'off' on the weekend. Aka mostly just a lie in and any jobs we need doing. He will sit upstairs all day in his office doing god knows what and my day is spent still doing life admin, meal preps etc etc

@Deedee121 - it is emotionally exhausting and I've reached the end of my tether baring all responsibility and being the sole backbone of our family.

My husbands biggest problem is that he has self diagnosed (due to matching most/all traits) and refuses to go be diagnosed as 'he doesn't want it on his record as it'll stop him getting jobs' Hmm

I'm just so... done

CastawayQueen · 04/07/2021 13:36

@ZoomedOut

I'll join please. I've been meaning to start a thread too. DH was diagnosed a couple of years ago. Medication has made a huge difference, but it is exasperating being the one that has to pick up the lose ends, moderate his impulses, do the admin, plan ahead, while (it feels like) he gets to do the stuff that motivates/suits him. Similar situation here - DH is hyper focused on things related to his work. The. Whole. Time. We really aren't compatible, although he is a lovely, caring man, and so I am also considering my options. I'm interested to hear from the posters with ADHD where/how they draw the line between ADHD behaviour (or triggered by ADHD) and just poor behaviour. I try hard to disentangle the 2 but it's not always easy.
All neurodiverse traits are also present in the general population. It’s the abundance of traits that relate to each other in a level severe enough to get diagnosed. I’m diagn
ToLiveInPeace · 04/07/2021 13:40

@Scautish I love my partner to the ends of the earth, and I'll defend him against any prejudice, but it's still enormously helpful for me to hear other people acknowledge that living with an ADHD partner and carrying most or all of the mental load is a common and exhausting experience. I'm truly sorry if that's hard for some people to hear but it's a constant fact of our lives, however good or difficult the relationship may be.

soulisdestroyed · 04/07/2021 13:43

OP , I think I understand exactly some of where you’re coming from .Your post has made me post after many years of lurking .I have namechanged for this as connecting to my previous posts, (admittedly very few and years ago at that), could be outing.Anyways ! I can only extend sympathy to you. I don’t know where to begin.Excuse me for my long rant .We’ve been married over 20 years and DH was diagnosed around 4 years ago and is taking medication. My late teen son definitely has it too but a slightly different manifestation as he seems to be slightly more emotionally tuned in. My son’s only been ‘diagnosed’ with Dyslexia thus far , we haven’t bothered with getting the ADHD/ ADD diagnosed. I felt that the diagnosis for my OH didn’t change anything much, other than confirming what I knew anyways- that something was the matter with him.I feel having to deal with him is a death by a million cuts everyday for me psychologically and has been like this for so long, I just didn’t understand what was going on.In theory there are a 3 adults in our household but there is really only one fully functioning person i.e me. The burden of being responsible for everything in the home takes a toll. He is not engaged with anything at home and to me it feels like having another child. To those saying its derogatory to the person with ADHD , I would say I feel demeaned everyday when I have to point out to him that he should be caring towards me i.e his wife and partner of 2 decades, and our son because he is our son! I could’ve said something to him a million times but it doesn’t stick. If I dare to ask him to do anything around the house even if it is something simple, well, expected to be simple for a grown man, I just know now , I’ll have to redo it or pick up after the mess he’ll leave behind.He goes from zero to 60 in seconds in terms of temper. I cannot relate to him as a ‘partner’ he doesn’t know what li’l things bring about intimacy between people who are together and I certainly don’t expect to retire happily into the sunset with him . He is so variable, up and down, I don’t know whether I’m going to get the enthusuastic, puppy like excited person or the grumpy anxious detached and cold person from time to time.I know now that I cannot be sure of anything he utters, he may deny it completely or say the opposite in the next second or in 2 days or whatever.It shreds my nerves as I don’t know what decisions to make sometimes.He has been absolutely hyperfocussed on meditation and yoga the last 2 years .Somebody could be dying in the house, he would still shut himself off for his sessions - it’s soul destroying. I think I hate him may times .I feel that splitting up with him isn’t going to make me happier as I will still have ‘known’ this person and all of the things he has said and done still hurt very deeply.I had some counselling but it’s still down to me to practice stuff.I feel very lonely as its not possible to discuss or have a chat with him about anything, I kid you not.He constantly talks over , interrupts, hijacks the conversation into a sudden unrelated direction. He is very awkward with friends /guests if I invite anyone over.He isn’t able to even offer anyone drinks, I have to remind him repeatedly and the hosting is pretty much singlehanded and exhausting.This makes me less likely to invite people over , not because I didn’t want to invite them back. I feel constantly exhausted and as I’m getting older, it’s much harder to do everything. It has affected my mental well being very much in terms of constant stress.It’s hard to not take it personally and your self esteem not being affected. The number of things that come to most people’s minds automatically but ‘didn’t occur to ‘ him are mind boggling. It doesn’t matter that it may not be intentional , the end result is the same- one feels alone, rejected, buried under the avalanche of work and home , no emotional support, can’t discuss anything with him about our son’s uni , friends, family , work etc as he will usually say outrageous things and it becomes upsetting for both I and DS. I feel because of knowing that dad has ADHD makes me more understanding of DS’s issues- anxiety, inability to act / carry out tasks, no initiative to do anything , even though he is a very bright lad - I know this is not laziness but it certainly comes across as that. Time has no meaning for both of them . To outsiders, my DH comes across as possibly a bit of a character, always making some unusual quips , smiling and sociable person. But for him everyone is treated the same - doesnt matter whether you are the wife, son, next door neighbour, MIL, casual acquaintance.He doesn’t know that one may behave slightly different with people that are not close versus your own family member.He’s friendly to everyone and anyone. He can be fun sometimes in small doses but the constant ‘out thereness’ is bewilering and exhausting to me. My non ADHD brain struggles with that just as his does with all the rules of life, I suppose. We only go on holiday if I suggest it, plan it, book it etc .He’ll just whiz in, smiling his lovely smile, hands in pocket, saying breezily - “where to next? “ as I’m in charge of what to do on holiday too ! I feel very sad at the stuff we’ve missed out as a family because of all this.
I try to remind myself , (not successfully all the time- I’m also only human ) - that he is a person, be compassionate, he can’t help it, the ADHD makes him who he is - sometimes the most open minded brilliant creative, funny person (but most times a very difficult soul destroying person to live with - when I’m repeating myself for a millionth time), but anxious with low self esteem as he knows he’s not behaving as he ought to and has no close friends or family as he cannot keep up with how to maintain relationships - its all or none. I feel sorry for him and as it is lonely for him too in many ways.Sometimes I wish I wasn’t a sensitive person that I am , but rather someone who could shake these things off and go about my life in a happy go lucky way but everything has worn me down after 2 decades together. Im not going to bother leaving now , dont have the energy. I try and do hobbies, try and keep in touch with friends and do stuff with them etc too.
OP you have to do what is right for you, support for partners is non existent, and even saying that you are struggling with a family member who has ADHD brings out people criticizing .It may not be the ADHD person’s fault but it can still be a private hell for the people they’re living with. Thats just a fact, not trying to be derogatory. It’s not as easy as some posters are suggesting , to separate the deliberate bad behaviour from the ADHD. Flowers to you .Apologies for the warbling very long post.

Boatie · 04/07/2021 13:44

[quote Deedee121]@Boatie you are taking this way too personally. I have done a lot of research, attended support groups as a parent and partner and there isn't much support out there. Hence the thread.[/quote]
@OP I hope you can accept that you are not speaking of the whole adhd community, but issues you have with your own DH. Those are personal to you.
I agree there is not much support for partners or parents at all in the U.K. I used to be part of an adhd association in the U.S and the amount of support was amazing. Shared tips at different stages of a person with adhd’s life, how to handle transition from childhood to adulthood, education, work challenges, relationships absolutely everything, unlike anything I’ve ever seen in the U.K.

Orf1abc · 04/07/2021 13:45

you are taking this way too personally. I have done a lot of research, attended support groups as a parent and partner and there isn't much support out there. Hence the thread.

Telling a disabled person that they're taking negative stereotyping "way too personally" is ignorant and ableist.

soulisdestroyed · 04/07/2021 13:47

Oh and you cannot discuss ADHD with DH, he just walks off, eyes glaze over, not interested, very defensive

soulisdestroyed · 04/07/2021 13:50

ToLiveInPeace I completely agree, you are much more succint than I was !

Deedee121 · 04/07/2021 13:55

@Uneazy - That's the thing. You aren't explaining anything. You are assuming all these things about me because I asked for support. What do you want me to do? Pretend ADHD hasn't impacted on my marriage? Well the truth is it has.

And when I attended the support group a few weeks ago there were other partners there who felt the same as me.

I don't have a shitty attitude towards ADHD, far from it. As I've mentioned and you've ignored, it it part of my daughter and I wouldn't change her. My husband is a different story. The symptoms and refusal to deal with it has chipped away at my marriage.

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GuineaP1g · 04/07/2021 13:57

I have ADHD. I don't abuse my family.

CastawayQueen · 04/07/2021 14:03

@ZoomedOut pressed send too soon!
I think the key thing is the thought of how things impact your partner, lots of communication, etc. The effect of my actions on others are always on the forefront of my mind and my partner and I work together. So for example admin etc we have a set time to do it. If either one of us thinks of something it goes on a list. I lose things a lot so I have GPS locator tags on them. We have 'chuck boxes' all over the house so if I bring something somewhere I put it in there, if I lose something it narrows down the locations. It is very hard and takes up a lot of mental space - and I'm very lucky in that a lot of things I can pay for to get done (like cleaning).

The key thing is to have channels of communication open. I read a lot of threads where the neurodiverse person doesn't acknowledge there's a problem, just carries on what they're doing etc. Sometimes it's the neurodiversity (one autistic trait for example is not being able to see the viewpoint of other people) but a lot of the times these people are perfectly capable of doing everything needed at work. Just not at home. Of course they could be masking at work, or not want to acknowledge there's a problem because of shame/guilt etc (this is really more complex) but the upshot is - they should feel something when they see you struggle. Not just bury their heads in the sand. Even with NT's you see so many threads with men being oblivious to housework kids etc .
There's also the severity - some people will need a lot of help coping no matter how hard they try. In this case it's really not their fault but as a partner you will be carrying most of the load. It's up to you whether you are okay with doing that - and whether they're worth it. At the end of the day supporting someone else is a tremendous effort. Nobody deserves to have that dumped on them,. Not everyone can cope with it. It's perfectly ok to talk about the impact it has on you. It's not disrespectful to us or an insult.

Deedee121 · 04/07/2021 14:06

43soulisdestroyed - so sorry to hear you are going through this too. I don't think anyone can relate to the stress until they go through it themselves.

Like your DH, mine is fun and very creative. But while he is a great musician, he has no interest/patience to encourage them in music lessons for example.

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ToLiveInPeace · 04/07/2021 14:07

@soulisdestroyed (and of course OP) - I have so much empathy with you. Your lives sound very difficult. Mine not quite so much but my health is affected and I'm a different person to who I would have been in a different relationship.

CastawayQueen · 04/07/2021 14:09

Also to add @Deedee121 i empathise with you as my father (who has many of the same traits as me) probably has ADHD and it has impacted my mother. Who ran the household as well as having a full time job. While my childhood was ok it wasn't great for her.

Another thing to consider is that a lot of neurodiverse women somehow manage - while neurodiverse men get away with doing jack shit, I'm not sure if it's because men are socialised to be facilitated by women...

celebgoss101 · 04/07/2021 14:27

I have ADHD and am not offended by this thread.

The idea that women with ADHD just have to cope isn't really true. The way most women are diagnosed is when they have severe mental health issues caused by not being able to cope.

When I lived with my ex he had to take up a lot of the slack for organising and making sure day to day jobs were done.

I can be abrupt but I don't always realise I am and it should be called out when I am.

CastawayQueen · 04/07/2021 14:30

@celebgoss101

I have ADHD and am not offended by this thread.

The idea that women with ADHD just have to cope isn't really true. The way most women are diagnosed is when they have severe mental health issues caused by not being able to cope.

When I lived with my ex he had to take up a lot of the slack for organising and making sure day to day jobs were done.

I can be abrupt but I don't always realise I am and it should be called out when I am.

That makes sense - or it could be that women are more keen than men to start a family
CastawayQueen · 04/07/2021 14:33

Arghhh why do I keep pressing the wrong button

Meant to say that women do all these things more so if they don’t want to start a family or similar it doesn’t happen. But I don’t know many people IRL, only the ones on mumsnet who have late diagnosed ADHD and they have often been the family backbone as well. Jus done things like earning more to hire help etc etc. Could be sélection bias

uneazy · 04/07/2021 15:05

FFS. This really is the last bit of energy I have for this thread! You could have said "problems in my marriage, advice needed" as a title. You then could have gone on to describe the issue, perhaps adding that he also has ADHD so has problems with impulsivity or whatever. Instead you said "support thread for partner with ADHD". People with ADHD have a LOT of shit to deal with (as I'm sure you're aware) and most have low self esteem. You're wording reinforces negative stereotypes and blames ADHD for your husband being shit - yes some of his traits may exacerbate things but it's not fair to imply he's a shit husband because of ADHD. Look at it this way - someone might see that title and assume that someone with ADHD would make a bad partner. That same person might meet your daughter later in life, find out she has ADHD and not want to be in a relationship with her. Just think about it and be careful with your words is all I'm saying. I'm not saying you are not worthy or help and support and that you don't love your family!

Flugbusiness · 04/07/2021 15:26

I have ADHD. I was only diagnosed in the last year. It's been a joy to get diagnosed as I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me for ages.

However, I was always fairly organised. I had to be, there was no one to pick up the slack for me. I never treated my family like a selfish arsehole because...I'm not a selfish arsehole.

Op, your H may have ADHD, but him being an arsehole has very little to do with that really.

As ppl have said this is just like those ASD threads where all the wives of self diagnosed arseholes are using their 'condition' as an excuse for bad behaviour. Or even worse their wives are using it as an excuse!!

Doesn't matter if he has ADHD or not really, if you find his behaviour intolerable, then for god's sake split up with him. If he doesn't want to manage his ADHD properly then why should you??

I spend a lot, and I mean A LOT of time putting things in place so other ppl don't have to deal with the effects of my ADHD. I apologise if I feel that I've been moody, and take a lot of steps to manage my temper.

You H is an arsehole. Leave if you want to. But giving out about his ADHD isn't going to help you.

thelegohooverer · 04/07/2021 17:10

I fully appreciate why you feel the need for a support thread op, when you’re preparing to leave your dh, and see adhd as a big part of the problem.

And I fully appreciate why other people, trying to maintain relationships with neurodiverse partners might benefit from a support thread.

The problem is that your title suggests the latter.

I am inclined to assume from your intransigence towards posters who are upset that what you actually want is validation for your decision to leave.

It’s ok that you find his adhd traits intolerable. That’s your prerogative. No one has to stay in a relationship. Of course there is going to be a degree of guilt in leaving because of the other persons disability and there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance to work through.

Renaming the thread “support for leaving my dh who has adhd” might help get you what you’re looking for, and not draw people (like me) to a thread thinking that it’s something it’s not.

HoppingPavlova · 04/07/2021 17:41

Lack of impulse control and general disrespect really

First I’ve heard that ADHD causes general disrespect and it’s been in my household for over 20 years and I also know a lot of people outside my household with it. Impulse control - yes, general disrespect - no, that’s just an individual thing, like some people are natural arseholes and some are not whether they have ADHD or not.

SpringCrocus · 04/07/2021 18:25

As someone with close family members with ASD, ADHD and other neurodiversities, I welcome this, and the Aspergers support thread.
It's very hard to live with and some compassion for those of us who have to support, manage, pick up the pieces, do all the adulting, etc
Would be good. Rather than berating us for being "abelist"
We are not. We just want to be able to be honest about how our relatives/partners neurodiversities impact on out lives.

YarnOver · 04/07/2021 18:43

@Orf1abc

you are taking this way too personally. I have done a lot of research, attended support groups as a parent and partner and there isn't much support out there. Hence the thread.

Telling a disabled person that they're taking negative stereotyping "way too personally" is ignorant and ableist.

I suppose due to all your research you know all about me too... You seem insistent you can speak for all of us
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