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Feeling like a homewrecker because his mom lives with him

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Knownscallion · 11/06/2021 05:25

Long venting and I'm new- I’m so sorry! But if anyone wants to read this whole novel I really REALLY need advice on how to move forward. Me and my boyfriend are both in our 30s and both have kids from previous relationships (he has 1, I have 2) Everything was going great, its a healthy and stable relationship and we truly love each other. The kids get along great, we’ve even talked about marriage and possibly having another child in the near future which I started really looking forward to since I figured in my single years by the time I got to this point with someone I’d be too old to have any more. The issue I’m having is that when he purchased his house before we met, he asked his mother to move in with him so he could “take care of her” and have help with his son... and because of that, things have been getting more and more uncomfortable.

Firstly, Im not even sure why she needs to be taken care of so badly (which he keeps mentioning) because she isn’t elderly and has no serious mental or physical issues other than she would probably be lonely on her own and hates leaving the house. She also has admitted to having OCD about things (which is another issue with having kids around). But I understood why he wanted her there at the time. She is really close with him and also basically the primary caregiver for his son since he works so much. Its gotten to the point where his son insists she be the one to do regular parenting things like bath time, and bed time in lieu of him even when he’s there, and shes the one who disciplines and teaches. That concept is kind of sweet in a way but I really don’t know if it’s healthy for him to not have more parental responsibility with his own son. I didn’t grow up in a normal situation and have no real idea what a grandparent role typically involves.

Anyways, up until recently we were kind of toying with the idea of living together which evolved to us coming over and staying at his house most nights of the week (mine is too small for all of us and he likes to be home work nights). We’d begun to develop a bit of a routine and make plans, just seeing how merging households would work. He’d casually brought it up to his mom and said she didnt seem to mind and it was his decision when to have us over. But It started to get awkward because his mom began to complain about my kids doing typical kid things that bothered neither of us such as making too much noise, going in her grandsons room to play, taking toys out that she didn’t want out at the moment etc and she just seemed upset and picking on things in general when we were over. It felt awkward not knowing what was up with her and I didn’t like that it was more “sleepover” than stable living situation for the kids so I told him he needed to have a serious talk with her about us being there so often, as well as our future plans, to make sure she was ok before we kept doing what we were doing.

So he ended up having the conversation and came back to me basically with “she said no”. He said they had a heart to heart and that she will work on being comfortable with the idea of us living with them eventually, but isn’t ok with it right now because she has a hard time with having that many people in the house.

I didn’t even know what to think. I don’t want to overstep but it feels so bizarre to me. I just feel invasive and uncomfortable in my own relationship now. Even if she “allows” us to move in together under duress in the future, I wouldn’t ever feel totally welcome in a place that would be my home. I told him that but he just says that she will warm up to the idea “someday”.

He even told me he wants to marry me when he can get her on board with things...which honestly I understand wanting your mom to be ok with the idea of you marrying someone, but it feels like he is saying she decides if and when that happens, AND that nothing would be changing even if we get married and start a family. This worries me because I’ve explained to him in depth in the past that I love his family being involved, but that I don’t even like roommates living with me, and that in the long run for it to work Id need us to have our personal space, some privacy, and be able to learn to become a family and manage things on our own, and he said he got that then.

So now, since he works until shortly before the kids go to bed and lives half an hour away, us coming over and not spending the night isn’t a feasible option, so Ive told him that I’ll just see him on weekends. This really only means Friday nights and part of Saturday with my parenting schedule. Its been miserable going from seeing him right after work, having dinner together and talking about our days, feeling like we were becoming a family and really progressing...to just feeling like we’re back to casual “dating” and seeing him once a week and never having the kids see each other.

He said in a few years we can get a bigger house with a separate living area for her and everything will be good and not to worry. But this has put a huge shadow over the entire relationship in my mind. I don’t want to give him ultimatums, or make his mom uncomfortable or angry. I Dont want to get between the bond they have and the routine they have. I feel like a homewrecker in such an awkward way. But I don’t want to lose what we have either, and I admit I can tell I’m slowly losing that feeling of closeness we had and grieving for it. I don’t know if I want this sort of “hang out once a week” relationship for years. Im willing to give it more time, but I don’t see much hope for how anything is going to progress any time soon and I don’t know what to do or say to him or if I even should say anything or just appreciate what I have and not complain.

OP posts:
BertramLacey · 12/06/2021 09:35

I know if I told him “its her or me” he would choose me.

I'd put good money on him choosing her, especially since he has form. There are plenty of women who might be his girlfriend. He only has the one mother. I think OP your choice is weekend girlfriend, or move on. I would also question whether she has had any involvement in previous break ups. I dated someone like this. No-one ever compared to his dear old mum.

SilverBirchWithout · 12/06/2021 10:15

I’m in my early sixties, probably about the same age as DP’s mum. I just can’t imagine being the person who stops my DS progressing in a relationship in this way. All most parents want is for their children to be happy and content, and I would be delighted if my DS had found someone, fallen in love, and was looking to live with the partner and have a lovely blended family.
That being said I can understand that stepping back for her will feel hard, but it’s certainly what his mum needs to do. Surely she would relish having her own place and the peace she so obviously craves.
Is there an option for her to rent her own home again but stay near to you both? She could still have a very hands on role providing day time care if that’s what she wants, maybe DP could pay for this care to help ease the burden of the rent money.
There needs to be a long term solution that doesn’t involve her living with you both, if this is not ever going to happen, you really will need to consider walking away. My biggest concern is that your DP is unable to even consider or want to not live with his Mum, obviously he loves her - but it also sounds as if he has abdicated his parenting role, and this doesn’t bode well if you have a child together.

Naunet · 12/06/2021 11:09

She could pay less rent living there and he wouldnt have to put his son with strangers in childcare. It seemed logical at the time

Oh come on!!! He palms off all of his parenting onto her AND charges her rent for the pleasure?! He’s a pig.

BertramLacey · 12/06/2021 11:23

Oh come on!!! He palms off all of his parenting onto her AND charges her rent for the pleasure?! He’s a pig.

It's a neat trick, getting custody and then not actually parenting. My OH has custody of his DC but he does actually parent. He works part-time and structures his work around school hours and school holidays. He limits the things he does in the evenings so he is at home for his DC. True, like the OP, it is me travelling to him more often than the other way round. But I don't have children so that decision only affects me and I think he's worth it. I wouldn't bother to do that for someone who couldn't look after their own child, still less would I have another child with them.

Honey83 · 12/06/2021 11:23

This would be a nightmare for me.

The absolute best case scenario is that his mum will eventually agree to you getting married and you will live together in a house with her in part of it for the next 20-30 years.

You are not going to get what you want with this particular person.

sunnyblackwidow · 12/06/2021 11:33

She's holding him back and preventing him from being in a fulfilling relationship with a family unit if his own.

You need to make that very clear to both of them and then walk away OP. He's allowing her to call the shots and you will never be happy like this.

QioiioiioQ · 12/06/2021 11:37

But she is happy to have him back at the busom
As grim as it is you are right ultimately what she wants is for her son to find safe harbour with her and only her, it's incestuous and wrong and supremely selfish of her

QioiioiioQ · 12/06/2021 11:44

She is only getting older, and as he doesn't seem to want to pay for childcare I doubt he'd pay for her to get care elsewhere so you may well become her carer
Of course, that is why he wants the OP!
His mother is getting older, at some point she will need someone to look after her. He feels in her debt because of the domestic duties that she has carried out for him, of course he won't care for her himself that's women's work instead he has sought out a woman (the OP) who will care for his mother on his behalf. If only he can manage to string her along with the future faking for a while

WhereYouLeftIt · 12/06/2021 14:28

"I know if I told him “its her or me” he would choose me."

I'm just going to quote back a chunk of your OP.

"I told him he needed to have a serious talk with her about us being there so often, as well as our future plans, to make sure she was ok before we kept doing what we were doing.

So he ended up having the conversation and came back to me basically with “she said no”. He said they had a heart to heart and that she will work on being comfortable with the idea of us living with them eventually, but isn’t ok with it right now because she has a hard time with having that many people in the house.

I didn’t even know what to think. I don’t want to overstep but it feels so bizarre to me. I just feel invasive and uncomfortable in my own relationship now. Even if she “allows” us to move in together under duress in the future, I wouldn’t ever feel totally welcome in a place that would be my home. I told him that but he just says that she will warm up to the idea “someday”.

He even told me he wants to marry me when he can get her on board with things...which honestly I understand wanting your mom to be ok with the idea of you marrying someone, but it feels like he is saying she decides if and when that happens, AND that nothing would be changing even if we get married and start a family."

Progressing your relationship is dependant on him getting her "on board". I'm sorry OP, but - he's already made his choice, and it'sher.Sad

QioiioiioQ · 12/06/2021 16:38

'someday' = the day hell freezes over

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