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Feeling like a homewrecker because his mom lives with him

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Knownscallion · 11/06/2021 05:25

Long venting and I'm new- I’m so sorry! But if anyone wants to read this whole novel I really REALLY need advice on how to move forward. Me and my boyfriend are both in our 30s and both have kids from previous relationships (he has 1, I have 2) Everything was going great, its a healthy and stable relationship and we truly love each other. The kids get along great, we’ve even talked about marriage and possibly having another child in the near future which I started really looking forward to since I figured in my single years by the time I got to this point with someone I’d be too old to have any more. The issue I’m having is that when he purchased his house before we met, he asked his mother to move in with him so he could “take care of her” and have help with his son... and because of that, things have been getting more and more uncomfortable.

Firstly, Im not even sure why she needs to be taken care of so badly (which he keeps mentioning) because she isn’t elderly and has no serious mental or physical issues other than she would probably be lonely on her own and hates leaving the house. She also has admitted to having OCD about things (which is another issue with having kids around). But I understood why he wanted her there at the time. She is really close with him and also basically the primary caregiver for his son since he works so much. Its gotten to the point where his son insists she be the one to do regular parenting things like bath time, and bed time in lieu of him even when he’s there, and shes the one who disciplines and teaches. That concept is kind of sweet in a way but I really don’t know if it’s healthy for him to not have more parental responsibility with his own son. I didn’t grow up in a normal situation and have no real idea what a grandparent role typically involves.

Anyways, up until recently we were kind of toying with the idea of living together which evolved to us coming over and staying at his house most nights of the week (mine is too small for all of us and he likes to be home work nights). We’d begun to develop a bit of a routine and make plans, just seeing how merging households would work. He’d casually brought it up to his mom and said she didnt seem to mind and it was his decision when to have us over. But It started to get awkward because his mom began to complain about my kids doing typical kid things that bothered neither of us such as making too much noise, going in her grandsons room to play, taking toys out that she didn’t want out at the moment etc and she just seemed upset and picking on things in general when we were over. It felt awkward not knowing what was up with her and I didn’t like that it was more “sleepover” than stable living situation for the kids so I told him he needed to have a serious talk with her about us being there so often, as well as our future plans, to make sure she was ok before we kept doing what we were doing.

So he ended up having the conversation and came back to me basically with “she said no”. He said they had a heart to heart and that she will work on being comfortable with the idea of us living with them eventually, but isn’t ok with it right now because she has a hard time with having that many people in the house.

I didn’t even know what to think. I don’t want to overstep but it feels so bizarre to me. I just feel invasive and uncomfortable in my own relationship now. Even if she “allows” us to move in together under duress in the future, I wouldn’t ever feel totally welcome in a place that would be my home. I told him that but he just says that she will warm up to the idea “someday”.

He even told me he wants to marry me when he can get her on board with things...which honestly I understand wanting your mom to be ok with the idea of you marrying someone, but it feels like he is saying she decides if and when that happens, AND that nothing would be changing even if we get married and start a family. This worries me because I’ve explained to him in depth in the past that I love his family being involved, but that I don’t even like roommates living with me, and that in the long run for it to work Id need us to have our personal space, some privacy, and be able to learn to become a family and manage things on our own, and he said he got that then.

So now, since he works until shortly before the kids go to bed and lives half an hour away, us coming over and not spending the night isn’t a feasible option, so Ive told him that I’ll just see him on weekends. This really only means Friday nights and part of Saturday with my parenting schedule. Its been miserable going from seeing him right after work, having dinner together and talking about our days, feeling like we were becoming a family and really progressing...to just feeling like we’re back to casual “dating” and seeing him once a week and never having the kids see each other.

He said in a few years we can get a bigger house with a separate living area for her and everything will be good and not to worry. But this has put a huge shadow over the entire relationship in my mind. I don’t want to give him ultimatums, or make his mom uncomfortable or angry. I Dont want to get between the bond they have and the routine they have. I feel like a homewrecker in such an awkward way. But I don’t want to lose what we have either, and I admit I can tell I’m slowly losing that feeling of closeness we had and grieving for it. I don’t know if I want this sort of “hang out once a week” relationship for years. Im willing to give it more time, but I don’t see much hope for how anything is going to progress any time soon and I don’t know what to do or say to him or if I even should say anything or just appreciate what I have and not complain.

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HavelockVetinari · 11/06/2021 08:20

Run! Run away! He sounds awful - what kind of adult lets his mother dictate his life to that extent?!

Get out now, or you'll be stuck with this other woman coming before you for the next 20-30 years.

Jellybabiesforbreakfast · 11/06/2021 08:23

Honestly, run for the hills on this one.

Why would you want your partner's mother living with you? And if you play the baddie and make her leave, you'll have to take over childcare and housework for him since it's your fault she's no longer around to provide them. It's a lose-lose situation. Don't bring your own kids into it.

Queenoftheashes · 11/06/2021 08:24

You need to find someone who doesn’t live with their mother. He says she needs his care but he’s always working while she does everything? Even if he got rid it sounds like he needs a mummy to do everything for him. What happened to the mother of his child?

ApolloandDaphne · 11/06/2021 08:24

I agree with PP. He has an enmeshed relationship with his mother. She has taken on the mother role in his sons life. You are essentially the other women.

Daleksatemyshed · 11/06/2021 08:26

His DM got company, he got full time childcare. What sort of man would just tell his DM she now had to leave since she's no longer needed, and would he treat you just as badly? Accept she's staying or leave him Op, this isn't going to be just you two ever

30mph · 11/06/2021 08:26

Time to walk away. There will be no happy resolution to the situation.

PermanentTemporary · 11/06/2021 08:27

I think if the relationship is great for you as it is, carry on as you are. It isn't compulsory to live together. It might be easier on all the kids if you stay independent.

None of this sound wrong to me but it's true that this dynamic isn't going to change.

LivingLaVidaCovid · 11/06/2021 08:27

@category12

Really I think you will come to realise splitting up with him would be a bullet dodged.

Doesn't it alarm you at all that his mum is doing all the childcare because he works so much? Not because of her, but because of him?

How would your imagined future of having another child look like? It'd just be you and his mother at home, and he'd be working all the time.

Actually recognise what he's showing you about himself. It's not just his mum that's a problem.

This and @Unanananana's post sums it up for me.
converseandjeans · 11/06/2021 08:30

He moved his Mum in because he needs her help.

The whole set up sounds complicated and I can't really understand the need to have another child.

You can't just ask his Mum to go - it's her home.

How do your children feel about staying over so much? Wouldn't they prefer to just be home with their own bed/toys etc?? I think you should focus on what's best for them at the moment.

TillyTopper · 11/06/2021 08:31

I can see how the role of his mum and him has developed in this situation - but honestly I'd run for the hills! She is not going to change and suddenly welcome you and the kids, she wants to keep things as they are now. Unless he is 100% making arrangements for her to move back to her home so he can have a healthy relationship with you and your DCs then it's not going to happen. She rules the roost and won't change - sorry but I do not think this will be happy for you and your children, it's fraught with problems.

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 11/06/2021 08:32

You are the other woman. His mum doesn't like it. Hes fine as long as you stay the ow.
Back put of this one.. find out if he is prepared to fight for you.
Tbh
. He wants a mother more than a lover. Let him ht have her.
So sorry.

converseandjeans · 11/06/2021 08:32

Also agree that if his Mum moves out you will have to pick up the jobs she does.

He sounds quite hands off so that would keep you pretty busy. Especially if you bring a 4th child into this madness.

Warmduscher · 11/06/2021 08:33

OP, you’ve had a unanimous response on this thread.

It will be devastating for you the realise this relationship is not ever going to work for you, but realise it you must.

I can’t even imagine being attracted to a man who doesn’t parent his own child or do his own housework and asks his mum to approve his relationships. It’s a very unhealthy set-up.

saraclara · 11/06/2021 08:38

What happened to the house she lived in before he moved her into his, OP?

museumum · 11/06/2021 08:38

I agree with posters who say there’s no place for you in their set up.
I disagree that their set up is unhealthily - it works for you them to have the three generations in together and granny as primary carer, this isn’t all that unusual in many cultures. It’s a totally valid way to live.

But there’s no room in this arrangement for your children and only you if you’re happy to just “date”. Don’t have a child with him.

EverythingRuined · 11/06/2021 08:41

How long have you been dating?

It seems a really really bad idea to be thinking of having a child with this man. He has told you what the situation is and you can clearly see what it is. It's up to you whether that's ok with you or not.

It sounds like it would never work to me. Also sounds unfair on your children to be taken to stay with him and his Mum when his Mum doesn't seem to want them there.
I'd assume that the Mum has given her son a lot of money or that she partly owns the house.
I don't think it's that outrageous that the mother moved in if it means that his kids childcare was sorted. I can see how it could work.

saraclara · 11/06/2021 08:44

I must admit I feel sorry for his mum in a way. This house is now her home, this little boy is almost more her child than his. Having to move out and leave the child because the son doesn't need her any more would be absolutely horrible. And the boy would lose his primary carer.

But this bloke should have predicted that this could happen. There should have been discussion and an agreement between them about what would happen in this circumstance.
If there was, and the agreement was that his mum would always have a home with him (and especially if she put money into this house) then if that's not how you see your life, it's time to run. He should have been upfront about this from the off, so you didn't waste all this time thinking you had a future.

Brown76 · 11/06/2021 08:48

What’s going to help his mother adapt and come to accept this change? I don’t think time is enough, unless she gets some support to deal with her OCD and discomfort.

Livelovebehappy · 11/06/2021 08:48

Seems he is so indebted to her, that it would be unthinkable in his head to discard her now he doesn’t need her as much. Sounds like she has been a very important person in helping him out with childcare and taking care of things whilst he’s at work. And he had asked her to move in with him initially, so it would be extremely difficult for him to ease her out of their lives now. He probably got more from the set up than she did. She’s taken over the ‘wife’ role in everything apart from the bedroom, and is obviously territorial as a result. This won’t be resolved unless you get a property where she can be there, but maybe in an annexe situation. It’s a very difficult situation.

humblesims · 11/06/2021 08:51

It's a No from me. I would have to step away at this point. No need for ultimatums or blame. His future view is different from yours. I would explain clearly that the ongoing set up is not going to work for you and step right out of the relationship. He needs to see that the situation is unworkable for you.

Whoopsmahoot · 11/06/2021 08:53

Eh no, mum is going to be a huge problem -always! Back off now. As a mum of a single boy I always thought I’d have problems with girl friends - ie no one would be good enough. Until I saw him with his first real girl friend - he looked so happy my heart melted and I was so happy for him. I know I will be delighted and excited for him when he finds the one he wants to settle down with. That is the way it’s meant to be. Your boyfriend is in an unhealthy relationship with him mum - I’d take a step back, she will always see your kids as different and he’s not going to change.

Bagamoyo1 · 11/06/2021 08:54

I can’t believe some people are being critical of the mum here. She was asked to move in, she may even have invested financially in the house, and she has put her own life on hold to help look after her grandchild. This has enabled your boyfriend to keep working, in a way that many single parents would find difficult.

He now wants to move in his girlfriend and her 2 noisy kids! It’s not exactly surprising that his Mum isn’t happy. Who would be?! He and his Mum should have considered this possibility when they created this set-up, but they clearly didn’t. You can’t now expect her to happily either move out or have her life turned upside down.

NettleTea · 11/06/2021 09:00

I can see the mums side in this. And OPs side

I wonder if they did pool money to buy the house, perhaps mum's husband died? We dont seem to have any mention of him?

How old is she, Im guessing 50/60s

How long have they lived together in this set up

in many cultures its not considered unusual at all for son to live with mum and to bring a new wife into the home, but of course its not the normal here.

However he seems to have benefitted quite well from this, because apart from having mum live there, it doesnt seem as if he is doing much 'looking after' and the mum appears to have taken on a fair amount - basically running the home and raising his son.

Im wondering if the problem is that when your kids 'do normal kids things' it results in more work for her, because he is not parenting.

I can also see that she may be frightened/concerned that she is going to be out on her ear, away from a child it looks as if she is pretty much raising, because he has found someone else to take over her role. She could be hugely vulnerable, especially if she isnt working because she has spent time looking after his kid. I hope her pension is protected, because I doubt she is getting the NI contributions.

How does the man work the rest of the household - is he doing his and his son's share of the housework/cooking/cleaning? Or is he basically living the life of a child, with no domestic responsibilities, because all thats been dumped on his mum. He may be very difficult to live with, if so, as an 'equal share' of making a home is going to feel like a hell of alot of extra work

EverythingRuined · 11/06/2021 09:00

I’d not like the set up but I don’t think the Mum and son are wrong or wierd to have the set up they do. They have probably done what is in the best for interests the sons child. The son sounds like he works long hours so having his Mum around must provide a lot of stability for the child.

Schoolchoicesucks · 11/06/2021 09:02

Also don't like the sound of her doing the parenting of his child. Why doesn't he do it? Is his DC there full-time? Would he expect you and her to parent any future dc you have together?

Having a close relationship with family is good, his mother was there when he needed her. But the set up doesn't leave room for you and your dc.

You've recognised that you can't move your dc into a home that they are made to feel as though they are intruders. Unless something major changes, this will have to stay as a casual, weekend relationship.

Maybe he is happy with that.
You need to consider whether you are too.
If not, he needs to make serious plans to disentangle from his mother and to parent his own dc.