Husband said he will divorce me if I get Botox

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....... and I got it on Thursday .....

I have wanted it for some time, and love it!
The effects haven’t fully started yet, but I mentioned a friend (who was with me) had it and he hit the roof!

Said point blank - if I fucked with my face he would leave me over it. No questions asked.

The only question I have is - should I pack his bags for him and tell him? Or just ignore him and continue making myself happy?!

I've had Botox. My husband didn't like the idea because, well, he thought it was a bit silly and unnecessary, which it probably is to be fair.

But for me I had three babies in 5 years and very very little sleep, I'm in my 40s and had really obvious 'number 11' lines which constantly made me look frowny and grumpy. I didn't like the way I looked and this was something I could do to change that.

My DH didn't try to stop me getting it, in fact he drove me to the appointment, but he looked into it and into the practitioner I chose. I have a small amount and the 11s are gone but that's about it. I look the same otherwise, I can promise you that. My eyebrows still move, I can make every expression I could before etc. My husband says he can't really tell and believe me he would be the first to say something if it looked awful.

I have a daughter and yes, I don't want to raise her in a society where women have to have cosmetic procedures in order to fit in, or whatever. But I also don't want to raise her to be dictated to about what she can do with her own body by a man or some strangers on the internet. We live in complicated times. I am happy and confident in how I look (mostly) and hopefully this will bring something positive to her, who knows? I've got two degrees, a job, three kids, pets, friends, family, volunteer work etc - I am more than just a bit of Botox in my head. Maybe she will see that stuff too?

Just to add, I paid for it with my own money.

He's probably picturing an unrealistic portrayal, someone with every bit of surgery botox/fillers known to man to the point it looks botched.

My ex was very against it. In case I "ruined my face" I got it done, lips and botox and he never even noticed.

You enjoy it.

@Ingridla Who's calling who names?

You started it by calling me 'my dear', I responded with 'my condescending numpty'

If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

[quote ChequerBoard]@Ingridla Who's calling who names?

You started it by calling me 'my dear', I responded with 'my condescending numpty'

If you can't take it, don't dish it out. [/quote]

I happen to know what I'm talking about. You don't. 'My dear' is hardly an insult. 'Numpty' is horrible, as it would appear are you, as well as ignorant on this particular subject.

@Peach01

He's probably picturing an unrealistic portrayal, someone with every bit of surgery botox/fillers known to man to the point it looks botched.

My ex was very against it. In case I "ruined my face" I got it done, lips and botox and he never even noticed.

You enjoy it.

Bravo, a great example of a little bit of proficient Botox. It's actually impossible to tell

@Ingridla said
'I happen to know what I'm talking about. You don't. 'My dear' is hardly an insult. 'Numpty' is horrible, as it would appear are you, as well as ignorant on this particular subject.'

Yes, your clearly just lovely. You also no idea what I know or don't know. I'm certainly not naive or dumb enough to think a Harley Street address is any indication of quality when looking at medical services, cosmetic or otherwise. Consulting space there can be hired easily- just like Regus offices. It's just a way of adding £££s to the price list for the gullible.

[quote ChequerBoard]@Ingridla said
'I happen to know what I'm talking about. You don't. 'My dear' is hardly an insult. 'Numpty' is horrible, as it would appear are you, as well as ignorant on this particular subject.'

Yes, your clearly just lovely. You also no idea what I know or don't know. I'm certainly not naive or dumb enough to think a Harley Street address is any indication of quality when looking at medical services, cosmetic or otherwise. Consulting space there can be hired easily- just like Regus offices. It's just a way of adding £££s to the price list for the gullible.

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Ok, I think you'd better trot off to Twitter where people like you enjoy arguing with strangers about issues they don't understand and leave us to discuss the issue like informed women. Byeeee

@Ingridla I will debate wherever I like. You don't get to tell me where I can and can't post. Rather than making non-specific and unsubstantiated judgemental statements perhaps explain what it is that you I don't understand exactly?

[quote ChequerBoard]@Ingridla I will debate wherever I like. You don't get to tell me where I can and can't post. Rather than making non-specific and unsubstantiated judgemental statements perhaps explain what it is that you I don't understand exactly?[/quote]
Yeh they have poor grammar over there like you too

@Ingridla said 'Yeh they have poor grammar over there like you too '

Oh the irony!!

Starting a sentence with 'yeh' and finishing it with an emoticon being the shining pinnacle of exemplary grammar.

😂 😂 😂

Getting boring now ffs
Can you two not just leave it ?

OP I wouldn't. I got Botox and didn't say a word to anyone...I spent the whole four months paranoid about people staring at my face (I definitely noticed a few people staring at my forehead so pretty sure they realised....someone will ALWAYS see it as there are giveaways like bunny lines) and was relived when it wore off. Plus...it felt really strange to not have the ability to move my forehead as well as before. It was unpleasant.

I would never have it again. I don't want to give my money to people who are exploiting women's insecurities. The cosmetic industry is worth billions. It WANTS women to hate ourselves. I'm not playing their games anymore.

@Ingridla

That my dears is filler. Botox, if done subtly does not alter the face, it merely stops wrinkles. You're looking at the worst examples and Khloe Kardashian has had WAAAY more than a dab of Botox done.

I happen to know what I am talking about, you're basing your ill judgement on celebrities who have gone so far overboard with their treatments it's like comparing rice to ice cream.

Khloe Kardashian is a perfect example of someone who started off getting tiny, unnoticeable amounts of work done and then quickly descended into completely changing her appearance. It’s not my place to say whether that change was for the worse or the better. My point is that, even with all the money she has, all the access to the very best consultants, she has still lost sight of a little bit here and there to freshen up. It’s a slippery slope and far too many women fall into the trap.

Your body, your choice!

It’s really NOT impossible to tell. It’s almost always obvious.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken Your argument is based on khloe kardashian which automatically makes it weak.

KK obviously has complex mental health/self esteem issues - she’s been at the height of the public eye for at least 15 years now and has always been referred to as the ugly sister. I don’t think anyone’s surprised that she personally took it too far with filler, but you can’t then extrapolate her situation onto the average woman elsewhere. She has to keep up with the Joneses to maintain her life and career - her appearance is key. It’s not that her consultants don’t know how to deliver natural work, it’s that KK doesn’t want natural work because that doesn’t bring in the money for her. The more natural she looks, the more she gets referred to as the ugly one again.

[quote Mooonstone]@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken Your argument is based on khloe kardashian which automatically makes it weak.

KK obviously has complex mental health/self esteem issues - she’s been at the height of the public eye for at least 15 years now and has always been referred to as the ugly sister. I don’t think anyone’s surprised that she personally took it too far with filler, but you can’t then extrapolate her situation onto the average woman elsewhere. She has to keep up with the Joneses to maintain her life and career - her appearance is key. It’s not that her consultants don’t know how to deliver natural work, it’s that KK doesn’t want natural work because that doesn’t bring in the money for her. The more natural she looks, the more she gets referred to as the ugly one again.[/quote]
The point is that even with lots of money, and the best consultants, women still lose sight of their original intentions.
That point stands.

I do think the 'slippery slope' is a thing to be fair. I've had Botox as I said, and I have caught myself thinking 'ooh I wonder if a bit of filler might sort this other thing out?'. Once you have crossed that threshold it does become tempting. And I'm someone who has never even had a spray tan or a wax or anything, and gets their hair cut twice a year, so I'm hardly the vainest woman on the planet.

For me, I can't afford it anyway and I'd be too worried about the consequences and ending up looking like some of the celebrities listed here. I also wonder if fixing one imperfection just makes you notice others and I think that's how some women with perfectly normal faces, like Charlotte or the other one from geordie shore for instance, end up looking like completely different people.