Husband put a tracking device in babies push chair

[Tilpop]

So today I had a child free day for the first time in 11 months.
I went for a hair cut then out for lunch with my best friend.

DH took LO out for the day.

Got home and he had opened a Package. He said they were devices used to find keys, bags etc. Then proceeded to show me that they "beep" when the app on your phone is activated.

Turns out these are apple air tags.

I decided to take LO for a walk in the push chair as he was getting grouchy and needed a nap. I opened the top of the chair and inside was one of these devices.

I googled it and apparently they are also tracking devices.

WTF........ I'm gutted. I asked him about it when I got home and he said he was testing it to see if it worked. But never told me it was there to start with.

There are 8 of them sat in my kitchen.

He says they are for keys etc......and you need to be near them for them to show on the app.

I doubt this as I've googled it.

What do I do. I'm so upset. Does anyone know anything about this?

@FreekStar

Ring seem to sell an awful lot of camera security systems for something which is abnormal.

Ffs that's an intruder alarm outside your front door is nothing like this

Bloody hell, you're being abused! This situation isn't good for either you or your baby and you need to get away!!!
As others have said, contact Women's Aid asap. Staying in a refuge with your child will be 100% better than living with this vile excuse for a man.
You owe it to yourself and your child.

Sorry camera not alarm.

You sound like someone who controls their partner in the exact same way is OPs

@Bluesheep8

If your husband is filming you at home and tracking your outside the home it’s really likely he’s reading this.

I thought this too.

Yep

Freekstar in your determination to look at one element at a time you are ignoring the bigger picture.

What normal people in happy loving relationships don't do is post on mumsnet concerned that their spouse is stalking them and monitoring their every move.

However is you seem quite invested that this is all perfectly fine we can ignore your opinion

Are you not reading Freekstar?

HE has his own bank account that OP cannot see. She has one that he controls.

Ring provide door cams. NOT internal camera systems

Is it really normal to have security cameras in the living room and kitchen?

Security cameras are for checking for intruders etc. Why does the DH have to ring the OP to ask what she is doing every time she leaves the house?

If you have to question whether your relationship is abusive it very likely is

@FreekStar you are being obtuse.

Of course people have their own bank accounts. It’s not about that, it’s about the DHs behaviour.

We have a camera that alerts when people approach/walk away from the front door. My DH has never in 3 years felt it necessary to ring when he sees I leave the house and ask me where I’m going, if he in fact checks it at all. If he knows I’m home he won’t even look at the app as he knows I will have and vice versa.

No matter what arrangements other people have re cameras/bank accounts, the way @Tilpopis being monitored constantly is NOT normal.

@Tilpop I hope you’re ok. Please try and think about how you can start to break away from this man. You shouldn’t have to live like this.

Ring do provide internal cameras! They are for recording intruders while you are not there.

@FreekStar

So nobody here has their own bank account then? ok

Talk about failing to understand what is going on!

One of the issues is that OP does NOT have her own bank account. She absolutely should. We can tell OP is in a controlling relationships because she does NOT have her own bank account, but her husband does. He has clearly done this to assert control. He can legally wipe out all her money, but she cannot touch his. He can monitor and question her spend but his is private.

Why are you so keen to deliberately blind yourself to the clear abuse and control going on here?

That’s fine @FreekStar but the OP’s DH is using these cameras to spy on the OP when she is in the house, not putting them on when they are out. How can you think that is normal and an ok thing to do?

@FreekStar

Ring do provide internal cameras! They are for recording intruders while you are not there.

These cameras are not for monitoring your spouse as it clearly going on here.

You are 100% in an abusive and controlling relationship.

Where can you turn for help?

@FreekStar

Ring do provide internal cameras! They are for recording intruders while you are not there.

For fuck sake. You've completely taken over the thread this morning with your need to educate in security systems. Whether right or not, everyone is here to support op and all you're doing is throwing in useless needless stupid comments. Enough.

The real issue, ALREADY ESTABLISHED issue is OP safety. I'm sure every one is now ready to getting back to giving her some useful advice and positive encouragement and not minimising anything this controlling man is doing to her.

@FreekStar

Ring do provide internal cameras! They are for recording intruders while you are not there.

Then surely they're turned off when someone is in the property and you turn them on if you're last to leave the house. A bit like an alarm??!

It's the fact OPs H monitors them so closely and uses them to monitor her behaviour - not an intruders.

I think we all just need to ignore freekstar 😡

Maybe freekstar is living in a similar set up and has been convincing her/his self that it's normal and just sensible ?
In my 16 years of meeting and speaking to DV victims many don't want to see themselves as victims or to acknowledge that something is wrong. It's frightening to have to challenge your status quo

Or alternatively they need to start working on their comprehension skills

Or maybe he's OPs H!

No I imagine he's busy this morning making sure op toes the line if he's read this

Minimising, deriding people on here as clueless, man hating mothers with nothing better to do than chat shit all day, that sort of thing

I was going to say that prays can be very expensive things and it make sense to have a tracker in case it's stolen, but the fact he has cameras all over the house puts a sinister slant on things.

It says this on the Apple website:

AirTag is designed to discourage unwanted tracking. If someone else’s AirTag finds its way into your stuff, your iPhone will notice it’s travelling with you and send you an alert. After a while, if you still haven’t found it, the AirTag will start playing a sound to let you know it’s there.
Of course, if you happen to be with a friend who has an AirTag, or on a train with loads of people with AirTag, don’t worry. These alerts are triggered only when an AirTag is separated from its owner.

So, if you have an iPhone then you should know that there's a tracker on you.

The technology isn’t inherently creepy, but the behaviour is terrifyingly controlling.

DH and I use Find My iPhone. I don’t care if he knows where I am, but wouldn’t want to have to justify it to him because it’s really none of his business. Casual interest = fine, having to account for your every move = controlling.

If he’s asking on more than the odd occasion and if you feel you need to be able to provide an “acceptable” reason then it’s not ok.

I wonder what his response would be if you met up with a friend he didn’t know and he saw you in a house he didn’t recognise? If it’s anything other than polite interest you have a problem.