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Please help me understand my DD's wedding.

101 replies

Ophanim · 24/05/2021 18:58

I'll try to keep this simple and include what I think is relevant.

DD is 22, met her fiancé less than a year ago, got engaged in February. they've been living together since October.

We live in DH's home country, my only family (parents, grandparents) are in the UK.

DD's fiancé is from a huge, ultra-religious family (double-digit number of siblings with a 25 year age gap from oldest to youngest). Although still religious he has left the church.

Apparently it's "their way" that they get engaged young and married soon after, the women generally don't work after marriage.

Fiance's parents not happy about them living together and his mother has made her dislike of DD very apparent.

DD and fiancé have announced that want to get married at our place in July.

Apart from the whole "it's too soon" thing, there are a lot of other issues that I'm not comfortable with. Loads of his family want to be there for the wedding, but with COVID restrictions we've said that's not happening at our place.
The biggest issue, for me, is that my parents won't be able to be there. As I've mentioned, he has a huge family but my parents only have two grandchildren.
I've told DD that I'm pretty upset they're planning on doing this so soon, knowing that my parents can't be there. She said it's ok, she won't wear a wedding dress and they'll throw a huge party where she'll wear a wedding dress, once my parents are able to come over. I said my parents are more interested in the wedding, than a party. If the wedding was to go ahead as they want then a lot of his family would be there as well as DH's family. Just my parents would be missing.

I don't understand the rush but she said it's how his family do things so i told her I'm hearing a lot about what his family want, but not a lot about what she wants.
I suggested that if getting married asap (no, she's not pregnant) is so important why don't they go off and do it quietly with just his two closest sisters and their fiances as witnesses, then we throw a massive party once my parents are able to come - an all or nothing scenario. she said She wants me and DH there.

She's told my parents and said my mum said it's ok, she understands etc but having spoken to my mum since then, i know she's very upset. i haven't spoken to my Dad yet (my parents are divorced) but I'm sure he's really upset too.

I know it's their day, not mine, but i just feel so upset (and actually slightly sick) at the thought of my parents not being able to attend, especially knowing they're the only ones who wouldn't be there.

I'm thinking of trying to talk to them both together and see if I can make them realize the impact this will have. Or do I just butt out and leave them to it, knowing this will have an impact on the relationship between her and my parents?

As an aside, DH and I eloped when DD was young so I know it may seem hypocritical. We were in our 30s and DD was with us for the wedding. No family were in attendance.

OP posts:
thatllberight · 24/05/2021 19:07

I think you need to leave her to it, unfortunately. I absolutely see your perspective and I would feel the same about my parents attending DC's wedding, but with her joining such a big, religious family I think there is a risk of her distancing herself from you and your family, so now you've expressed your concerns I'd be trying to keep communication open for now.

Iggii · 24/05/2021 19:09

I wouldn't be as bothered about your parents not being there as I would be about her marrying into that family with their attitudes

category12 · 24/05/2021 19:12

Well, your own elopement gives you not a leg to stand on with the importance of family attending.

I'd be pretty worried about my dd if she was marrying so quickly and is planning to give up work too. But she's an adult, she's going to do what she's going to do.

Squiggy · 24/05/2021 19:13

It sounds like she is already doing her best to compromise whilst also having the wedding that she wants but that isn’t good enough for you. You chose to move away from your parents this making planning more difficult for your daughter and are now planning to guilt trip her for your parents being unable to attend. Please let her have the wedding she wants. The religious family is a separate issue to this.

Squiggy · 24/05/2021 19:14

*thus

Aprilwasverywet · 24/05/2021 19:16

Is she following the dw's don't work idea also?
Is she being herded into their church ways do you think op ?
Yanbu to have concerns full stop.

Notaroadrunner · 24/05/2021 19:17

Your concern is misplaced. Whether your parents are there are not, it doesn't sound like a healthy set up at all. Why should your dd feel pressured into getting married young just because his asshole parents say so? I'd be encouraging her to put it off full stop - not simply because your parents can't make it.

nocoolnamesleft · 24/05/2021 19:20

Hang on a sec. You're criticising your daughter for not having your parents at her wedding, but you didn't have your parents at your wedding either? Blimey.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 24/05/2021 19:21

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Ginger1982 · 24/05/2021 19:21

Is it the Mormons? I think you may have to let her get on with it as hard as it is. You had the wedding you wanted and are perhaps feeling guilty about the fact your parents are going to miss out again?

myhobbyisouting · 24/05/2021 19:21

"see if I can make them realize the impact this will have."

What impact will it have? Are you going to make her feel bad about this indefinitely?

Ophanim · 24/05/2021 19:31

Iggiiit doesn't sit right with me either. DD is a non-believer but I can't guarantee that they won't try and convert her.

Squiggy I moved away many, many years ago. I visit every year or so and my parents come out to visit us every year. Now, at the time they would most want to, they can't. I wouldn't say this situation is my fault for moving overseas.

April that is a concern of mine. She's always turned her nose up at that idea but she's been off work with an injury for close to a couple of months now. At first she was bored but she's recently been spending quite a bit of time with his sisters. Now I'm not sure if she's planning on going back to work or not.

Also, it's not as simple as allowing her to have the wedding she wants. She wants a lot of people at our place being married by a pastor who turns a blind eye to group gathering numbers (in her words). That's not happening on my property unless the rules change.

This whole thing seems to be heavily biased to what his family want. I;'m not even convinced it's what she wants. What I didn't say in my earlier post, and i should have done, was last week she was talking about the wedding and having 10 guests, as per the rules. She came up with 9 names. I said "DH?"and she said, "Oh he won't be back then" He's working overseas so they were obviously talking about bringing the wedding forward to June. I told her that if she brings the wedding forward so DH can't there then i won't be there either. They've now agreed to July again. i daren't tell DH that.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 24/05/2021 19:33

It seems bonkers you feel let down your parents won't be at her wedding when you eloped meaning your parents weren't at your wedding?!

More than anything I would be concerned about her potentially giving up work. That's the thing that would terrify me about this, whereas the wedding day is just that - one day.

And you really can't romanticise the day by making her feel bad about your parents not being there - you eloped so they wouldn't be at yours!

youvegottenminuteslynn · 24/05/2021 19:36

He's working overseas so they were obviously talking about bringing the wedding forward to June. I told her that if she brings the wedding forward so DH can't there then i won't be there either.

While I would usually hugely sympathise with you on this, you purposefully didn't invite either of your parents to your wedding with your DH?

And presumably love your parents so it wasn't a reflection on your feelings about them, just a preference about your wedding day?

So I would tread really carefully at trying to dictate how your DD makes decisions about her own wedding day or you're in danger of being shut out. Which is the last thing you want if she will potentially be a bit isolated when married eg giving up work / not seeing friends as much and seeing his family instead.

KraySlag · 24/05/2021 19:38

You didn't invite your own parents to see you get married, but you're furious with her for not pushing it back so that her grandparents can attend?

Ophanim · 24/05/2021 19:39

It's not about my feelings, it's about how it will hurt my parents' feelings when potentially her fiancé's parents, siblings and inlaws will be there as well as my DH's parents, siblings and inlaws. Literally everybody from both sides except my parents. I just can't imagine how they will feel knowing that everybody is there except them.

my hobby the impact is will have on her grandparents, who she is actually very close to.

With regards to us not having anyone at our wedding, fair enough although my mum didn't invite me to her wedding despite he DH's family being there, but i don't feel that's relevant.

If she was to tell me that they're going to go and do it quietly with just a couple of his siblings there - and not me/DH - then I would be very happy for them. My issue is that they are in such a rush that they are willing to leave my parents - and only my parents - out of the ceremony.

Ginger, not Mormons. It's not guilt that they will miss out AGAIN, it's upset that they will literally be the only ones not attending.

OP posts:
Ophanim · 24/05/2021 19:40

No, we didn't have my parents at our wedding, but apart from DD NO ONE was there. We didn't invite some and not others

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Chicchicchicchiclana · 24/05/2021 19:42

Have no words of wisdom, just want to say OP that I completely sympathise and would be absolutely horrified if my dd announced her engagement at such a young age to someone she barely knows.

The ins and outs of the wedding and who gets to go wouldn't really come into it. The fact that she wants to marry at all is awful.

lucy5236 · 24/05/2021 19:42

@Notaroadrunner

Your concern is misplaced. Whether your parents are there are not, it doesn't sound like a healthy set up at all. Why should your dd feel pressured into getting married young just because his asshole parents say so? I'd be encouraging her to put it off full stop - not simply because your parents can't make it.

Exactly what i was about to say

Wuurg · 24/05/2021 19:43

Are they fundamental Christians?

I would be very concerned, the wedding would almost be a red herring. Things are moving so quickly and everything seems tl be dictated by his side. Particularly the giving up work aspect.

Has he definitely left their church now?

How did they meet?

Chicchicchicchiclana · 24/05/2021 19:43

@EvenMoreFuriousVexation

Are you serious? I just can't believe you're genuine. Making your daughters wedding about your feelings?

If you are genuine and not a troll - you are gross.

No, she isn't gross. This is a terrible thing to say. Totally uncalled for.
Chicchicchicchiclana · 24/05/2021 19:44

@Iggii

I wouldn't be as bothered about your parents not being there as I would be about her marrying into that family with their attitudes
Exactly.

Too many people on this thread not really getting the point of it.

Wuurg · 24/05/2021 19:45

@Wuurg

Are they fundamental Christians?

I would be very concerned, the wedding would almost be a red herring. Things are moving so quickly and everything seems tl be dictated by his side. Particularly the giving up work aspect.

Has he definitely left their church now?

How did they meet?

Fundamentalist!
lucy5236 · 24/05/2021 19:46

@Chicchicchicchiclana

Have no words of wisdom, just want to say OP that I completely sympathise and would be absolutely horrified if my dd announced her engagement at such a young age to someone she barely knows.

The ins and outs of the wedding and who gets to go wouldn't really come into it. The fact that she wants to marry at all is awful.

This is the real issue here. Not who the guest list is!!

It's almost like the guest list is your biggest concern and your daughters future in this weird family/religious situation is an after thought

KraySlag · 24/05/2021 19:46

Why is it impossible for them to attend?

By July many other countries may be open for travel.

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