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Dating Thread 202: Here's hoping the lockdown loneliness and longing eases up soon...

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SpringlikeBunk · 11/04/2021 17:05

Come ye all!

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Shayelle2009 · 25/04/2021 08:25

@Dancerinthemoonlight i agree with the other opinions its weird behaviour and I would watch that. I mean anyone can have loads of matches but not be talking to them, is he trying to make out he’s Gods gift and you should be all grateful hes talking to you. But I agree with @SpringlikeBunk some guys try and use jealousy tactics to win women over.... just be wary of it though. He sounds overly nosey questioning you on your whereabouts and now what other chats you may have going on.. that would irritate me as those are none of his business

Myfabby · 25/04/2021 09:10

The absolute delights on T

Myfabby · 25/04/2021 09:11

Too quick ...

Dating Thread 202: Here's hoping the lockdown loneliness and longing eases up soon...
Shayelle2009 · 25/04/2021 09:13

Its frightening to be fair, not just that these kind of men are on online dating sites, but that they exist in the first place Confused

frankiefirstyear · 25/04/2021 09:34

@newnamenora

Date update with MrPosh - I felt it went very well. We had a long walk along the canal and stopped for a couple of coffees on the way. He was better looking in the flesh than his pictures let on, we chatted constantly and have lots in common. I would love to see him again, I felt more of a connection with him than I have with anyone else, but I didn't get the impression that he fancied me - no attempt at a kiss at the end, just an elbow bump! I'm going to send him a "thanks for the date, would love to do it again soon" text and see what he says.
Don't think Covid is helping first date dynamics so could be that 🤷‍♀️
WeWantTheFinestWines · 25/04/2021 09:36

Myfabby he sounds like a keeper! 🤮

Dancer how inappropriate. He's game planning and almost negging you after one date - doesn't sounds promising, sadly.

onwards nice positive one from you - always lovely to hear.

I was just reading in the paper about whether or not to pay for the apps. I think the answer is not. I'll see if there's a link I can post.

I'm 'chatting' to one iron at the moment - Mr Nature. He sends me a photo of the beautiful nature he is surrounded by, probably weekly. He's elsewhere and due to be in my neck of the woods 'in a few weeks', so maybe we'll meet up then, although it seems unlikely. In the meantime I'll enjoy the photos, shoot one back at him occasionally and not bother any further with it. I'm much more focused on a potential solution to still living with my ex, that would result in me being child free every other week. Then I would actually be able to date.

BelladiMamma · 25/04/2021 09:46

@Lovemusic33

Ok, so last weeks (kind of) date has been messaging me non stop despite him saying he didn’t want anything serious because of his life situation at the moment. I kind of thought we could just be friends or possibly friend with benefits. He’s lovely but he is still married and is about to be kicked out of his house share and may need to move back in with his ex so for this reason I wouldn’t want a relationship with him. Last night he started getting a bit soppy with the texts and when I said I had an appointment in his town he asked if he could meet up (I said I couldn’t). I will probably meet up with him during the week, I’m going to have to remind him that he said he didn’t want a relationship aren’t I? I think he wants all the fun of a relationship without saying ‘it’s a relationship’ and probably whilst sleeping with his ex wife, I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up back together if he moves back into her house.

I think I need to get more irons but they all seem to have so much baggage, still married, ex still in the picture, young kids, no job etc...etc...

I know I don’t want anything too serious but I also want someone who has got their life together.

Awkward if he's already changing the goalposts. I wouldn't like that & it does stop you from moving on to a certain extent. Do you like him enough to wait? Can you do friendship with him if he's worth it, til he's in a more stable position? And definitely keep looking to meet other people. You don't have to get into a situation you're uncomfortable with.

The whole baggage thing is challenging. As I have loads I just have to be patient with finding someone who's ok with it, or wait til the baggage lessens. At least I'm no longer sharing a house with my ex which other than stopping me from dating was also my version of a living hell!

BelladiMamma · 25/04/2021 10:21

[quote WeWantTheFinestWines]www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/24/dating-apps-premium-find-love-over-30[/quote]
I read this too, there's been loads in the papers since the Bumble stock market floatation. And by the way go is single people for having created the first self made female billionaire 😆

So i thought the fact the experts didn't agree on paying for them was interesting. One of them was suggesting that it's more to do with your attractiveness and communication style. Hmmm. I wasn't sure about that I thought it was also to do with the quality of the matches?!

WeWantTheFinestWines · 25/04/2021 10:47

bella one of them was saying the good ones get snapped up using the free version, so the ones who pay are the desperate ones who nobody wants to date.... I may be paraphrasing here.

That doesn't fit in with all the "can't see likes so message me" potatoes though. Never understood that anyway - you can't message someone you haven't matched with?!

BelladiMamma · 25/04/2021 10:50

@WeWantTheFinestWines

bella one of them was saying the good ones get snapped up using the free version, so the ones who pay are the desperate ones who nobody wants to date.... I may be paraphrasing here.

That doesn't fit in with all the "can't see likes so message me" potatoes though. Never understood that anyway - you can't message someone you haven't matched with?!

Yeah I was a bit insulted 😆
bangheadhere40 · 25/04/2021 11:13

That could explain why match is full of the worst ones, they've exhausted all the free ones with no luck so go to a paid site.

I'm liking the new question feature on Bumble, makes things a bit less mundane as a conversation starter.

I matched yesterday with someone I never recognised who I went on dates with about 5 years ago! He remembered me though....reminds me a bit of dancers controlling type, he was awful. I soon unmatched. We had a brief chat though and out of nowhere he sent me a pic of his car ( to show off). A company car crappy old thing it was anyway!!!!! Why do they do that ffs.

BelladiMamma · 25/04/2021 11:15

Indeed - why oh why the car pic?!

I'm taking a break from the apps to focus on Mr Bear for the moment. All the signs are good and we've had the exclusive conversation. I've told my other 2 irons who weren't really in a position to commit anyway. They've sent lovely messages back so I'm leaving with a clear conscience. Let's see how it goes ...

HairyArsedMan · 25/04/2021 11:30

[quote WeWantTheFinestWines]www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/24/dating-apps-premium-find-love-over-30[/quote]
“The truth is this: quality, confident people who love themselves and know what they want and deserve don’t need to pay for matchmaking or elite services – they are able to navigate the free apps and find the best partner for them,”

“You might think that paying for an elite or premier service is the answer but throwing money at this is the absolute worst thing that you can do because while you might expect to be buying access to premier quality dates, it is in fact the opposite – you are now paying to be in a pool of people who are also struggling to make dating and relationships work“

This is a quote from an expert. Fact is you are in that pool whether you’re paying or not. It is certainly not the worst thing you can do though - it can save you a huge amount of time navigating that pool if you pay. That’s time that you go on to invest in yourself as the expert advises further on, with counselling etc. I would say any third party involvement to fix you to a sufficient level to be popular in online dating is going to cost significantly more per month than a subscription that’s for sure.

What she is saying is partially true: attractive sorted people will be able to match with plenty and make good choices (from the pool that hits on them). Equally they will be inundated with likes, messages or whatever currency of appreciation the site trades in, and struggle to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Reading back up the thread:

@TheCatWithTheHat I could not maintain so many conversations and conversational quality and have a life. I think you’re shooting yourself in the foot here because anyone you do meet is competing with the fantasy of all those others. Also don’t you feel you’re just rehearsing the same stuff time after time ?

frankiefirstyear · 25/04/2021 11:31

I'd said basically the same thing about the men I know in rl who pay for the apps 🙈 sorry if that offended anyone but that was my experience so interesting that it's also mentioned in the article.

I've gone through 2 chats and focused on a third now and been going quite well though he is further away than what I'd like but he would need to do the travelling due to me having no childcare and he's happy with that (he says!). Don't want to name him yet, he has had some addiction issues in the (long ago) past and suffers from some MH issues also, also occasionally talks ill of his ex but it's vague 'what she put him through' stuff like that. All amber flags for me but like to give him the benefit of the doubt until I meet to get a better idea of him. Either way the chat is quite entertaining.

Also had a out of the blue call from MrM which, true to form, was hilarious and went on til the small hours and made me feel so good to have a laugh til you can't breathe evening 🥰 though I know what it is now and enjoy it for just that and nothing else.

Who was it that was going to text the guy who had a lot of issues and not heard from in a few weeks/wanted to date him or meet others? 🧐 wondered how that went.

newnamenora · 25/04/2021 12:14

@frankiefirstyear - you could be right, I hadn't thought of that!

I sent him a message and he immediately came back with the suggestion of meeting in a place half way between us (where we can both get to by train/bus easily) so that we could go for a drink together... maybe he is interested after all!!

I shall ditch the name MrPosh (which he isn't btw!) and will now refer to him as MrG.

TheCatWithTheHat · 25/04/2021 12:18

@WeWantTheFinestWines I think those "can't see likes so message me" profiles are copied and pasted from OKCupid, as they don't make sense on most of the other apps. So another reason to avoid, as they can't be bothered to update their profile to match the app.

@HairyArsedMan Other than the occasional job interview or walk, I have nothing but time at the moment... I don't have an issue with multiple chats, but I also tend to be quite ruthless now with filtering people out quickly. My 10 Tinder matches have been whittled down to 3, and most of my Hinge chats have fizzled out so there are just a couple at the moment that I'm still speaking to.

I sometimes pay to boost my profile, which usually gets me a load of likes, then I spend time chatting and filtering them down to a small number I'd be interested in meeting. I suppose it's like the OLD version of panning for gold.

As you know, I like to meet quickly so I try to avoid building up any fantasy of what people are like. I used to spend ages getting to know someone, and in all but one case was disappointed to find the reality didn't match the fantasy, so my preference now is to meet fairly soon.

It can be quite an effort to think of original things to say, but everyone is different and I enjoy getting to know people. I think it has also helped improve my conversation skills - I used to struggle to think what to talk about on dates, but don't find that anymore.

As for the paying thing - I think it depends on the app, and what you actually pay for. I've found it's useful to pay to see likes on Tinder, as if someone nice likes me, I can swipe on them straight away rather than waiting for the app to present them to me when it wants. I find boosting my profile at certain times can be effective too - that's most effective on Tinder, but has been successful on Hinge too, and to a far lesser extent Bumble.

Also some people think if you pay you're desperate, others think you're showing that you're committed and serious about it so it can be a good or bad thing depending on the view of the other person. I just think do what works for you, and don't try and second guess what your potential match will think of you.

Ultimately, the apps exist to make them money, not find our perfect matches. I've definitely been caught up in this, and have wasted a lot of money over the last 18+ months. Paying hasn't really worked for me in terms of finding my perfect match, but I'm 100% certain I've had more matches and dates because of it. I don't think not paying would have been more successful - I'd most likely be in the same situation, just with more money left in my bank account.

Also the comments from these experts saying that if you're a quality person you will find your ideal match without paying aren't helpful - that implies that all of us struggling are low-quality people, and that just isn't true. The apps make it harder to match if you don't pay, and most of the time it's just down to sheer luck anyway.

Heartbeats0708 · 25/04/2021 13:49

On the paying Vs not paying, I think I agree with @TheCatWithTheHat in that it does say commitment to finding someone to me. I think there's desperate people on all apps anyway, but if you've been on the apps a little while or (in my case) sign up with lower self esteem, it can be easy to miss the red flags.
Not much of an update from me. Not sure if I've mentioned Mr tall before but he's the front runner at the moment, interesting convo and would be a good fwb. Easy on the eye, respectful and no baggage. Yet to arrange a f2f though so we'll see.
I'm still in a limbo with Mr O, I'm not sure I can move past the argument we had. The only hope really is taking a break and starting from scratch. I'm just not sure how feasible that is.
Sounds a bit crass @Dancerinthemoonlight I suppose it could be a clumsy attempt to impress you?

Dancerinthemoonlight · 25/04/2021 14:31

@heartbeats0708 I could have been a clumsy attempt to impress me as he was name dropping people he has met and saying about different things he does and how much his dad Christmas present cost last year.
None of that impresses me. Who you are as a person impresses me not the monetary things or who you have met. It might work with his other dates but has the opposite effect on me

bangheadhere40 · 25/04/2021 14:54

Does anyone know why the same person comes up on tinder everyday that I always swipe no on? Does it just recycle people?

SpringlikeBunk · 25/04/2021 15:01

@Dancerinthemoonlight

He just doesn’t sound very nice

When people talk about compromising a bit and seeing if a spark grows what they mean is things like “I normally prefer dark haired guys but I’ll go for a fair one” or “5’9 rather than 6” or “still doing a postgrad degree though I normally date people in full time work” or “not as chatty as I’d like and first date wasn’t perfect ”

Things like character and not being a dick and trying to make you jealous aren’t things to compromise on

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frankiefirstyear · 25/04/2021 15:11

@bangheadhere40

Does anyone know why the same person comes up on tinder everyday that I always swipe no on? Does it just recycle people?
This happens to me too, it never seems to recycle the stunning ones that I've accidentally swiped no on though 🤦‍♀️ I live quite rural so it does this and also ignores my distance limits so maybe it's just because there's hardly any choice of active members
frankiefirstyear · 25/04/2021 15:12

[quote newnamenora]@frankiefirstyear - you could be right, I hadn't thought of that!

I sent him a message and he immediately came back with the suggestion of meeting in a place half way between us (where we can both get to by train/bus easily) so that we could go for a drink together... maybe he is interested after all!!

I shall ditch the name MrPosh (which he isn't btw!) and will now refer to him as MrG.[/quote]
Aww 🥰 glad you went for it then

bangheadhere40 · 25/04/2021 15:36

That could be it frankie I'm rural too, although the one that comes up everyday isn't particularly local. I wonder if he's paying for boosts so they send him back round to everyone all the time.

WeWantTheFinestWines · 25/04/2021 17:11

bang I also get repeat offenders on a daily basis. Sometimes they've added a photo or changed the text a bit, sometimes it's the exact same profile I swiped left on the day before. Makes me wonder how often my profile comes round again to men going 'oh no, not her again'.

I'm in a fairly small town so there just aren't that many options. To fix that, Tinder shows me men who are hundreds of miles away 😐