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DH and his creepy friends

234 replies

SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 07:17

DH and I have known each other for 3 years, been married for less than 1.

6 months ago, he started declining my advances to have sex and would spend hours every night sitting on the sofa scrolling through his phone and chatting with his friends.

At first I thought it was me, but as far as I know nothing has changed on my end.

So then I thought that he could be having an affair.

I know it’s wrong but I did read through his incoming notifications the other day while he was taking a nap. I didn’t see any indications of an affair but I did catch a glimpse of his group chat.

They were linking usernames on Reddit and Only Fans rating women and making comments like loose, butter face (?), has deepthroat clips and there was even this message where someone said he finally solved it and linked the Instagram and LinkedIn profile of this woman. Confused

Yesterday night I mentioned it and DH was angry at first storming off to the bedroom. 30 minutes later, he came back and said he didn’t like me looking at his phone (fair enough) but that it was just the boys doing their thing and that there was nothing he could do and that his only contribution (he scrolled through his phone here for me to see) was a comment saying zoom in on her computer screen you can see her work uniform in the reflection??

I feel so uncomfortable with it all. Sad

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SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 07:56

Made me really uncomfortable since I found out. Previously the one conflict we had was when Only Fans was really blowing up and someone we knew IRL was getting into it and she sent everyone a link to sub to her. DH subbed to support her (his words) but he promised me he didn't look even though he didn't understand why I was so upset since sex work was just work like any other job.

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Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 20/03/2021 07:58

I'd kick him out/leave. He's a vile creep. You're in for a life of misery if you stay with him. Sorry OP Thanks

Kelly345 · 20/03/2021 07:59

And what was his answer to why he avoids having sex with you?

SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 08:00

@Hollyhocksarenotmessy

Are these women who are putting images out there for men (amateur porn?), or random women?

The first is gross behaviour, from the way they are rating them and speaking about them. Very disrespectful and frankly it would put me right off him.

The second is even worse. They are online stalkers.

He showed me examples when he was explaining and the 'sleuthing' is just them finding the original Instagram pages where these women started promoting their Only Fans.
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WhatHappenedToThose · 20/03/2021 08:02

And then zooming in on images to find their workplaces? Seriously, why are you accepting his excuses when you've seen reality with your own eyes?

SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 08:03

@Kelly345

And what was his answer to why he avoids having sex with you?
I haven't asked or wanted to have sex in the past 3 months. Think he finds me boring now that there's better content online.
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Lampan · 20/03/2021 08:05

Does he think you are stupid? Subscribing on Only Fans to ‘support’ someone isn’t exactly the same as buying a few bits from someone’s small craft business or shopping locally to support your local high street.
I agree he sounds gross and it will only get worse.

Stillfunny · 20/03/2021 08:09

It is exactly this kind of attitude that has men dehumanizing women . I hate that my STBXDH also looked at porn. It is sleazy, disgusting behaviour. And to think a whole group of men think it is OK is scary.
But it is unfortunate that these sites even exist. The whole point of it is to get men to pay for sexy pictures . Why would you willing do this ? And the risk of being exposed in RL is obviously a real one , almost a challenge.

Do you want to stay with someone whose has this attitude and these kind of tendencies ?
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Pokske · 20/03/2021 08:11

On top of the childish judging...
The linking of Instagram to Lindekin is a serious job - why put the effort in ? CREEPY !!!

UltimateBlends · 20/03/2021 08:12

Oh my gosh op, this has knocked me sick and I feel really worried and scared for these women, and repulsed by your DH.

And I say this with alot of weight behind it as I'm usually on the other side of the fence when I read threads about porn/porn use/some SM stuff (liking photos etc)

But this, is not right. He is working amongst a "pack" of men, trying to find out women identities online, talking about them in derogatory ways? Basically online stalking. These women do not deserve to be treated this way & not just that but it is frightening.

Think about it objectively for a moment. You post on munsnet anonymously, you post here to get advice, be heard, give advice. Another poster makes it life's work to find out who you are, along with other women. When they find out who you are, they then pass information around, make comment, be cruel about you, prehaps even go as far to find out where you work, what car you drive, who your family are, start deciding if to follow you, befriend you etc.

Is that normal? Are you OK with that?

Of course you are not. Your husband and his friends are doing exactly this behaviour, with an extra and dangerous element of sexual interest.

Throw in the mix him spending all his time on his phone, and not engaged with you - I mean, what more do you need?

This is scary behaviour and I would be planning to leave him ASAP, and prehaps even make note or report of his behaviour, you could be saving a poor woman from something more sinister than "boy talk" (which is absolutely no excuse/reason for being disgusting creeps)

Reminds me of that series, You, on netflix.

I dont think I'm overreacting with any of this.

Disturbing behaviour, op.

UnsolicitedDickPic · 20/03/2021 08:12

Sound like a bunch of incels. Agree with PPs that this sounds sinister and borderline criminal. Aside from anything else, you can bet that his group of friends probably have a nickname for you, too. Have you considered that's how they talk about all women they know, personally and otherwise?

MeridianB · 20/03/2021 08:13

So creepy that he invests so much time and headspace in such a negative thing. It would make me question everything about this relationship. Sorry OP...

Odile13 · 20/03/2021 08:13

It sounds absolutely awful. A bunch of sad grown men who want to get off watching certain women but also want to call them names and degrade them and find out who they are in real life. Really nasty stuff.

Yazzyup · 20/03/2021 08:13

File for divorce this is over. No sex, no respect and he is stalker.

LunaNorth · 20/03/2021 08:15

Move on. He’s a loser.

AdaFuckingShelby · 20/03/2021 08:16

Oh dear, he's definitely complicit, he joins in by bring present doesn't he? Misogyny is rife unfortunately. You're turned off by it, understandably. He's not bothered about your feelings and is defending it. I doubt this will end well. You seriously need to start communicating.

Lochmorlich · 20/03/2021 08:16

So he disappeared for 30 minutes and then let you look through his phone? Hmm

SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 08:18

Spent the last hour looking into it and it makes me sick. You go on Reddit, there are people in the comment section asking for Instagram handles on a NSFW photo and there are people replying, same on Only Fans.

This marriage doesn't feel like a marriage anyway. Will be filing for divorce.

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ThrowingAShellstrop · 20/03/2021 08:18

He showed me examples when he was explaining and the 'sleuthing' is just them finding the original Instagram pages where these women started promoting their Only Fans.

He’s a predatory stalker OP. This is awful. I’m so sorry, he’s shown you who he really is Flowers

JensonsAcolyte · 20/03/2021 08:19

@Lochmorlich

So he disappeared for 30 minutes and then let you look through his phone? Hmm
Yeah he’s deleted a lot. This will be the tip of the iceberg.

I would leave, and I would also have a little chat with the police.

Midtowngirl · 20/03/2021 08:19

Wow, it’s a disgrace. Objectifying these women and then stalking them like some game. What happens when they find out who the woman is ? Start contacting her?
You can tell a lot about a man from his friends. He’s contributing to these conversations so as bad as them. He’s not saying ‘ hang on, this is wrong guys, stop’
They are like a pack of wolves. He’s dedicating all his evening to this, rather than having actual sex with you. I could never be with a guy like this! What will you do op? Flowers

caramac04 · 20/03/2021 08:19

Every PP has basically said get away from this man, his behaviour is gross, sinister, vile. You deserve better as do the women he and his mates are stalking. The woman whose Instagram and LinkedIn accounts were linked should be warned. His explanation of why they hunted her is weak at best.

SeafoamGreen · 20/03/2021 08:23

Will be mentioning all this to my solicitor too.

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Rockdown2020 · 20/03/2021 08:23

It’s concerning that they’ve tracked this woman down on various forms of social media and also to her place of work. It feels a like she may be unsafe if this is the level of obsession these three men have. It would concern me.

If you’re not having sex during the honeymoon period than honestly, it’s not going to get better.

How completely off putting and predatory.

Dery · 20/03/2021 08:24

“This marriage doesn't feel like a marriage anyway. Will be filing for divorce.”

So pleased to hear that. He sounds awful.