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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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Scarby9 · 16/03/2021 12:00

Go to the family barbecue on your own.
Either he might become more accepting or his response will confirm for you that you are in a coercive relationship (which everything you describe points to).
I think this relationship is over - for your own sake you need to get ourt, but not back to your mum's.
You are worth so much more.

Sahm101 · 16/03/2021 12:07

You seem like you are very depressed op and signed your life over to him. Unfortunately nothing will change unless you find it within yourself to want to change. If you think you are depressed maybe see your gp as a start. You say you wanted to escape your mum, so maybe that is where it all started. You missed alot of flags along the way But it's never too late to start again.

katy1213 · 16/03/2021 12:11

Go to the barbecue. Stop answering the phonecalls. Presumably you get a salary for working in his business? Buy a car that suits you, you don't need anyone's permission. Walk away from the dining table and read a book or watch a film in another room. Make a few post-lockdown plans for one. You can book a museum/exhibition lot now and they're going fast. Look up an old friend and see if you can rekindle the friendship. Look for a job - you must have loads of management skills from running a family business. Volunteer - for anything, to get you out of the house. Don't enter into discussion about any of this. You don't need his permission to live. Open your mouth and shout! You need to hear your own voice - literally.

fantasmasgoria1 · 16/03/2021 12:16

He is controlling you. At some point sooner or later you need to walk away. I was abused and controlled to the point I didn't really know what my opinions were anymore. I wasn't allowed to dress how I wanted etc. My opinion only but you need to make plans to leave him.

katy1213 · 16/03/2021 12:16

PS You're so young - and you could have a degree by the time you're 40 if you got moving now. If that's what you want.

namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 12:18

@Scarby9 I have tried that before. He’ll go on and on and on about it, asking why I want to go, saying things like “oh shall we get favourite takeaway on Saturday - oh we can’t you’re out on that night aren’t you”, or “I think I’ll watch film we both really wanting to watch while you’re out as I’ll have nothing better to do” or he’ll start really slagging off my family or if he still doesn’t get his way he’ll just say “if you loved me you wouldn’t Go/leave Me on my own” and I just feel so grounded down by it, it’s much easier to just not go.

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Exhausted4ever · 16/03/2021 12:20

You're definitely being controlled. Why can't you go to family events without him? Are you being paid to work for him? You need to make huge changes here to take back your life

Exhausted4ever · 16/03/2021 12:22

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]**@Scarby9* I have tried that before. He’ll go on and on and on about it, asking why I want to go, saying things like “oh shall we get favourite takeaway on Saturday - oh we can’t you’re out on that night aren’t you”, or “I think I’ll watch film we both really wanting to watch* while you’re out as I’ll have nothing better to do” or he’ll start really slagging off my family or if he still doesn’t get his way he’ll just say “if you loved me you wouldn’t Go/leave Me on my own” and I just feel so grounded down by it, it’s much easier to just not go.[/quote]
Because it's my family and I want to see them. Oh you go ahead and get the takeaway, enjoy it babe. Cool, enjoy the film I'll catch it another time. If you loved me you wouldn't expect me not to see my family or to emotionally blackmail me like that.
These should be your replies

namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 12:24

It sounds so simple but it doesn’t feel possible to actually do those things. If I don’t answer he will ring repeatedly until I do or when I do answer the next time he wants to know why I didn’t answer before. I feel so far removed from my old friends, they’re all in the middle of young children and toddlers and it’s painful for me as I would love nothing more than to have a baby. I think that’s been part of the issue, we’ve been TTC for ten years and I’ve been so busy looking at that and I have barely noticed that the walls have closed in around me. It’s only now that I have realised I’m probably not going to be a mum that I’ve truly felt the impact of everything else.

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 12:24

That was in reply to @katy1213

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user1494055864 · 16/03/2021 12:24

36 is still very young. You could do some online courses.
Be out walking the dogs when he rings.

GhostCurry · 16/03/2021 12:24

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]**@Scarby9* I have tried that before. He’ll go on and on and on about it, asking why I want to go, saying things like “oh shall we get favourite takeaway on Saturday - oh we can’t you’re out on that night aren’t you”, or “I think I’ll watch film we both really wanting to watch* while you’re out as I’ll have nothing better to do” or he’ll start really slagging off my family or if he still doesn’t get his way he’ll just say “if you loved me you wouldn’t Go/leave Me on my own” and I just feel so grounded down by it, it’s much easier to just not go.[/quote]
Then leave.

I know I’m being simplistic here, but you’ve just spelled out all the reasons why nothing will change while you stay with him.

Spend a little time mentally exploring the possibility of leaving. Just let the idea sit in your head for a little while, with no judgement or emotion attached - it’s just an option. Turn it over, mentally. What would it mean for you? What would improve? What would your opportunities be? Relationships you could rebuild or nurture? Character traits you’d like to see re-emerge in yourself?

And then post on the Relationships board for practical advice about how to make it reality.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 16/03/2021 12:24

I'm sorry you're tolerating this appalling man....

My first ever LTB...

Hes really not adding to your life and is controlling and minimising you and your wants and needs...

Please go and do your degree... Have fun!

Make a plan to get out from his control.

He'll whinge and say you don't love hkm... If he loved you he'd want the best for you... Not this horrid half life...

littlepattilou · 16/03/2021 12:25

I have to admit, if I had no kids with him, I would pack a couple of suitcases up and leave. Go to your mum's. It sounds like a pretty awful life with him. It won't get better. I think it's disturbing and worrying that you have almost zero contact with family because your DH doesn't like their partners. And that you have no friends. He is controlling your life...

I don't think you love him, I don't see how you can. You just think you do.

Sorry @namechangeforadvicepls Flowers

RhodaDendron · 16/03/2021 12:27

Oh my goodness this is so sad. You are being controlled OP. I don’t know if talking to him is a good idea or if you should just leave. He sounds like he has enormous mental health issues that he is dumping on you.
You mention education twice. If he is a barrier to you studying then I think you have to leave. Sitting with him while he does paperwork every night is insane.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 16/03/2021 12:27

You're still very young!

Do you know what the issue is with TTC?
At least 2 of my pals were told they couldn't naturally conceive... With different partners they conceived naturally

Sahm101 · 16/03/2021 12:27

Op you are 36 still so young sweetheart. And you still absolutely can have a baby. You just seem so ground down by this man. He is clearly isolating you to rely completely on him. You need to speak out- your gp, a family friend or someone. That's a first step. You have given this 20 years, you can leave and have another 20 + years of a great life. To me you sound depressed, please see your gp.

ChazP · 16/03/2021 12:28

What happens if you say no to him? What would happen if you said “no, I want this car” or “no, I’m not sitting at the dining room table with you”?

HollowTalk · 16/03/2021 12:29

I hope you're equal partners in his business, OP. What's the financial situation like - do you get a separate income?

I think I'd move quietly on this one. If you lose weight you'll feel better about yourself. Could you go for a walk on your own every day?

Do you have qualifications to do what you do? I'd be looking at a future where you're working in a different job - can you prove you can do what you do?

It wouldn't surprise me if he's financially abusive. Do you have free access to money? Do you see his tax returns?

ChazP · 16/03/2021 12:29

(Sorry - my questions came up after you’d already responded to other posters asking similar things. Please ignore)

wandawombat · 16/03/2021 12:30

I'd leave anyone who expected me to get up at 5am to sit with them...

HollowTalk · 16/03/2021 12:32

Just thinking about the degree. It's six months until the university year starts again. Could you apply to university - don't limit yourself to your local one - it would be great to go somewhere different - universities are suffering at the moment because of lack of overseas students so you should find it easier to get in. Then set yourself a goal of losing weight before you go and doing some exercise each day, just to make yourself feel better.

Personally if I was planning to leave him I'd go on the pill, too. I wouldn't tell him that, though.

RUOKHon · 16/03/2021 12:33

You’re being coercively controlled. For whatever reason, you have reached your limit and now the scales are falling from your eyes.

Have a look at the DASH checklist here www.dashriskchecklist.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/V-DASH-2010-2015.pdf

You don’t mention him being violent or aggressive, but even just based on what you put in your OP, I can see you tick about six questions in this list.

There is support out there if you want to leave.

Cam2020 · 16/03/2021 12:34

It sounds so simple but it doesn’t feel possible to actually do those things.

Because he controls and manipulates you. On equal relationships, those conversations bit feel awkward at times but definitely not impossible.

I'm sure it's been such a gradual thing over so many years you've barely noticed until you get to the situation you're on now. Flowers

CupOfTeaAlonePlease · 16/03/2021 12:35

This is so sad.

36 is young enough to start over. Go to counselling yourself, find out what you want.

Don't wait another 20 years and feel exactly the same at 56 years old, wishing you'd done something about it when you were a mere 36!