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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
whateverhappenstomorrow · 18/03/2021 10:03

I have empathy for your boyfriend

I want to reiterate what I said before and I cannot say it strongly enough.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHY HE IS LIKE THIS.

All that matters is how it is effecting you. Anything that is going on in his head is for him to deal with. It is not your place to make yourself small and destroyed to meet his 'needs'.

There is no fixing him, no accommodating him. Your ultimate goal has to be to leave.

You have plenty in your favour, no kids, you are clearly smart and articulate. You have the experience of working for him. Its time to put you first.

namechangeforadvicepls · 18/03/2021 10:03

@cansu

The more you say, the more horrendous he sounds and much worse than what I experienced. I would recommend you speak to somewhere like woman's aid and that you see a solicitor. All those rules must be so suffocating.
Someone else mentioned the word suffocating and I never thought of it before but it is the perfect way to describe it.

I could cope with letting him take the lead on big decisions, I don't really care that much about what car I drive, but his desire to have me be so constantly available to him IS suffocating and it's what I find hardest to deal with. That, and how lonely I am.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 18/03/2021 10:03

SadSadSadSadSadSadSadSad

Please speak to woman's aid this is so abusive, I want to cry for you as well.

Can you imagine a life with a partner that treats you as an equal who lets you do what you want and when you want and only asks because they are interested and want to support you.

Take one of the dining chairs upstairs.

Coercive control is a crime now for very good reason.

Thanks
Deanefan · 18/03/2021 10:05

Flowers @namechangeforadvicepls this truly is the stuff of nightmares. Firstly the most urgent thing do YOU actually want weight loss surgery at the moment. As pps have said it may not be successful if your head is not in the right place. Please disclose to them confidentially that you are being abused and that this is not your informed unpressured decision so your consent would not be valid. All health professionals undergo basic training in safeguarding so they will respect your confidence. In the circumstances I would even write you a bland letter recommending deferral due to an unspecified “ issue” discovered with somw of your tests.
Start to explore finances etc. Are you paid by the business does it make NI contributions for you? It’s good that you have access to the paperwork and time alone in the house. Time to get your ducks in a row as is so often said on here.

alloverthecarpetagain · 18/03/2021 10:07

This is heartbreaking to read, op, I feel so sorry you have ended up in this situation. It sounds as if you need to start making your plans to leave and that is the main thing you need to put your energy into. You are young still, you can do this and you can start again.

Itsalonghaul · 18/03/2021 10:08

I second pp, you need to call womens aid.

chat.womensaid.org.uk/

This is really not normal to feel suffocated and so broken in a marriage. Your dh should empower you, make you happy and smile, sometimes laugh. Not to drain your life of all colour so you are a shell.

Please tell WA what you have told us.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 18/03/2021 10:11

I agree with others. This is not okay and isn't a normal way couples tend to live. The more you say the worse it sounds.

You are only 36, please do something about this. So much support and hand holding available on here. Use that. Make a better life. What you have now is really not good.

Bythemillpond · 18/03/2021 10:14

As you are married I think you need to get together all paperwork, copies of bank statements and pensions etc
Then there are 2 ways you can approach this.
The first is to slowly lose the weight/have the surgery and get everything together and then leave/ask for a divorce. But I don’t think you are in the mindset to mentally know you are leaving whilst living under the same roof and be strong enough not to get sucked into this coercive controlling behaviour.
Otoh I would organise somewhere to stay then throw a grenade into this relationship and walk out.
I think your weight with out the extra millstone round your neck will fall off naturally once you realise that your life and decisions are yours to make.
I would start to think of all the things you want like children, a degree etc and work towards those rather than spend another moment of your life being given some one else’s choices to make.

I think your mother controlled you and in some ways you found the control normal when you met another controlling person so didn’t see it as anything other than normal for a long time now the scales have fallen from your eyes

Personally I would put off weight loss surgery and invest in some therapy and the Freedom programme alongside a diet and exercise programme
Once your head is clear and you don’t have the distraction of someone who is so needy and controlling your life will be so different.
As you said your eating habits are an emotional response to a horrible home life.
Take away the horrible home life and you won’t have the emotional response.

I am not saying you will immediately feel fantastic when you leave and there will be frustrations till you divorce and get the marital home sold and the financial side of divorce is done but one day you will wake up and see how much better your life is.

crumble82 · 18/03/2021 10:19

You poor thing, he’s treating you like a child although I don’t think many parents would try and control their children to the extent you’ve described. I usually think there are 2 sides to everything but whatever his side is there is absolutely no excuse for the way he treats you. Please please leave this man.

You’re young, you can still start a family with the right person and get a job. You’ve been working for him so it’s not like you have a blank space on your cv and you could always explain the situation if asked for a work reference. Do you work with clients or other contracts? If you have a good relationship with any of them you could always approach them for a job once the dust settles. What I’m trying to get at is that you have options.

GladysTheGroovyMule · 18/03/2021 10:19

@whateverhappenstomorrow

I have empathy for your boyfriend

I want to reiterate what I said before and I cannot say it strongly enough.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHY HE IS LIKE THIS.

All that matters is how it is effecting you. Anything that is going on in his head is for him to deal with. It is not your place to make yourself small and destroyed to meet his 'needs'.

There is no fixing him, no accommodating him. Your ultimate goal has to be to leave.

You have plenty in your favour, no kids, you are clearly smart and articulate. You have the experience of working for him. Its time to put you first.

A billion, zillion times this.
AgathaX · 18/03/2021 10:19

Can you talk to your sisters in confidence? Would they offer you some support? Or some of the friends you still have - even though they may have children now, I'm sure they would offer you support.

Your mum isn't going to be the one to support you in changing your life, she is partly what has caused you to accept this and to not see it coming too.

Also, if he's keen for you to have the surgery, then I'm guessing he's keen for you to lose weight. So could you, instead of sitting at the table with him whilst he works, get yourself out for a walk to start to improve your fitness (and it would do your mental health lots of good), or maybe join a weight loss class where you could interact with other people a bit?

Megan2018 · 18/03/2021 10:22

Next time he goes out, back a bag of essentials and go to your mums or your sisters. Leave your phone behind and don’t look back.

NormanStangerson · 18/03/2021 10:23

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]@Tankflybosswalkjam I made our box room into an office that I work from during the week, but he won't work in there. He prefers to work from the dining room table, which I get I suppose in a way that he doesn't want to be shut upstairs on his own all day on a Sunday.

He wants me to sit with him, I make him cups of tea and lunch and snacks as and when he wants them. I can do a craft project or go on my ipad, but he asks regularly what I'm doing if I do that and I have to tell him. I'm not allowed to wear my headphones to watch Netflix on it or anything. He doesn't like it if I read. Or if I look at something funny and smile or laugh. If I get any text messages or alerts on my phone and he sees or hears them, I have to tell him what they are. I manipulated the situation to not have a laptop, otherwise he would want me to do work with him (which in theory wouldn't be too bad but I wouldn't be allowed to work on Sundays and have Monday off in lieu for example) We're allowed to listen to one radio station, no spotify or TV.

He knows he'll want his slippers as the floor is tile and can be cold, but he never puts them on on his way to the table, he sits there for 5 minutes then asks me if I know where they are. If I say, yes they're at the bottom of the stairs, he will ask me to fetch them for him.

Sometimes I make an excuse to go upstairs to my office to do work but if I take too long, more than say half an hour, he comes and finds me and tells me he's "losing morale". He's actually started bringing the computer chair downstairs now the past couple of weekends though as the dining room chairs are uncomfy, but I suspect it's so I can't be in there.

If I go to the toilet for too long, or stay outside with the dogs for too long when I let them out, he asks me what I've been doing or why it took so long.

It's an open plan kitchen/diner so if I have made lunch or have some cleaning to do I can do that. We're not allowed to have dinner until he is done, or nearly done, so about 8pm usually.

If I say I'm bored or uncomfortable he will say "how do you feel for me?" or "you can do this for me if you want".[/quote]
@namechangeforadvicepls this is absolutely horrifying. I cannot express to you how entirely abnormal this is. Each post gets worse and worse.

He is a very bad man. And you need to find the strength to get the fuck away from him. I cannot stress that enough.

Heyahun · 18/03/2021 10:27

Fucking hell Op this is awful - how can you live like this!

Your only 36 - still young enough to start again! It’s not too late to go to university if that’s what you want - meet someone else, have a family with them

Your husband is a controlling arsehole - you need to get away now!

Life is not like this - you are not a child - he treats you like a bloody slave

RUOKHon · 18/03/2021 10:28

OP did you have a look at the DASH checklist I posted upthread?

I think it would also be worth you, and others on this thread who are looking to blame you or minimise his behaviour, taking a look at this chart of coercion www.strath.ac.uk/media/1newwebsite/departmentsubject/socialwork/documents/eshe/Bidermanschartofcoercion.pdf

It explains how it’s possible somebody can become completely under another’s control.

Itsalonghaul · 18/03/2021 10:28

As I read your posts with mounting horror, I urge you to get some help urgently op. This is abusive. Pure and simple.

Thank goodness you do not have a child with this man, or you will never escape him. You are a prisoner. Please speak with someone, anyone in real life that you trust and call WA.

Roominmyhouse · 18/03/2021 10:32

@RUOKHon

You’re being coercively controlled. For whatever reason, you have reached your limit and now the scales are falling from your eyes.

Have a look at the DASH checklist here www.dashriskchecklist.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/V-DASH-2010-2015.pdf

You don’t mention him being violent or aggressive, but even just based on what you put in your OP, I can see you tick about six questions in this list.

There is support out there if you want to leave.

Quoting this as you need to read this again. Please get help to leave!
annonnymous · 18/03/2021 10:34

You have to get away. This is abuse. Do the Freedom Program. Controlling behaviour is abuse.

HazelBite · 18/03/2021 10:34

I have never read anything quite so sad on this board before.
OP (I say this as a woman in her 60's who has been married twice) Life is very short and very precious, you cannot waste yours like this.
My God he doesn't want a wife he wants a compliant servant, you are not allowed to even think for yourself! Your dogs have a better life than you do.
You do not need weght loss surgery, I'm sure if you left him you would be able to have other interests in your life that would overtake your need for comfort eating. Think of the worst case scenario, you have the weight loss surgery, you are unable to eat , therefore have lost the one thing that gives you any comfort.
I can promise you however difficult leaving him might be, your life will be infinitely so much better.
Being able to plan your own day, week , life allthough daunting is what you deserve.
Good luck Flowers

GreenBalaclava · 18/03/2021 10:36

OP, your post at 9.51 is truly horrifying Sad

TheMatryoshka · 18/03/2021 10:38

Oh love this is one of the worst things I've read on here. I know other posters have well and truly told you already but please please believe us that this is so abnormal and wrong. He might not knock you around (yet) but he has you completely under his control and I could cry for you.

You can have a much much better life than this lovely, imagine having a little place of your own where you can do whatever you want whenever you want.

I truly hope you can find the strength to change your life, please keep.posting and please use us on here for support while you find your real life support network

All the best Flowers

PRsecrets · 18/03/2021 10:41

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PussGirl · 18/03/2021 10:41

My long marriage was rather like this, especially his wanting me available all the time, not letting me read or do crafts if he were watching something as he liked the lights off & wanted me to watch his boring programmes rather than do my own thing.

It worsened for years & eventually I saw the light & left - difficult to do but so worth it.

Lionessloudmouth · 18/03/2021 10:46

Leave
Do not have the weight loss op
You are young and can start again and have a happy, free life

Motnight · 18/03/2021 10:49

This is one of the saddest threads that have read, Op.

Please don't have the weight loss surgery yet, you are not emotionally in the right place for it.

Other posters have given you great advice. I hope that you are finding this thread useful.

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