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Kids Totally Disapprove of relationship

246 replies

KidsDisapprove · 15/03/2021 17:57

I won't drop feed. I was utterly miserably married, had a 4 year plan to leave when my youngest went to uni but I couldn't bear it any longer.
In the meantime I fell in love with someone else.
Realise this is completely wrong but it happened.
2.5 years later and we are at the point of living together but my children hate this man. They've refused to get to know him and treat me with contempt if I even take a call from him when they're there.
I've just had my eldest ranting on the phone to me as I took a call for 2 mins if that yesterday as he was asking if I as having a lovely Mother's Day.
I feel totally torn. I love this man so much. But they're my children.
Their dad is happy with someone else and has been for over a year now.
Not sure if I need to give any more information - would you end a relationship for your children, I guess is what I'd like to know.

OP posts:
Candyfloss99 · 15/03/2021 18:03

What are their reasons for hating him?

MorrisZapp · 15/03/2021 18:05

Why do they hate him?

Trumplosttheelection · 15/03/2021 18:05

Presumably they hate him because you fell fir him whilst still married to their dad? Your post isn't totally clear but I take you planned to leave two years from now but instead this happened over two years ago?

The kids aren't obliged to like him. You do need to choose.

MrsSchrute · 15/03/2021 18:06

So you had an affair with this guy?
If so I can understand why they wouldn't want to have a relationship. Rightly or wrongly, they probably see him as the reason why their parents aren't together.

yankeedoodlecandy · 15/03/2021 18:06

Do they feel this man split up your marriage, then in turn their family?

Pompom2367 · 15/03/2021 18:09

You need to decide if he is worth having this trouble with your children op

DavidsSchitt · 15/03/2021 18:11

You had an affair and they hate him? Understandable and unlikely to change

Finfintytint · 15/03/2021 18:11

Does your new partner have children?
My brother had a fairly amicable divorce. Both co parented very well. Sil had new partner and years later they still go to family events together.
His children though actively sabotaged any new prospective relationship and we’re quite vile to any girlfriend. I think as teens they felt their father’s affection would be transferred to any new children on the scene.
My brother ended any new relationship due to his children’s insecurities.

Motnight · 15/03/2021 18:15

How old are the kids?

KidsDisapprove · 15/03/2021 18:15

Apologies yes, that's exactly why they hate him. I'd started making a life for myself as ex husband very antisocial as years went on, and in doing this met this man.

I've sat them down and explained what went wrong in the marriage. I've apologised to them all including ex husband for the infidelity. Husband agreed as soon as I told him about it and how I wanted us to part, we should have separated years before.

It seems unanimous then.

I obviously had a gut feeling otherwise I wouldn't have asked.

OP posts:
Candyfloss99 · 15/03/2021 18:18

This is why you should leave when you want to and not "stay for the children". All it ever does is cause resentment.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/03/2021 18:23

How old are they? Are any of them living at home and if so is that with you or their father?

You don’t have to break up with him but you’ll probably need to keep the relationships separate as much as you can. They have no right to phone you up to tell you off or rant at you for speaking to him, who do they think you are? Treating you with contempt is unacceptable. What does your ex think about their behaviour? Are they polite to his partner?

I think at this point you’re well within your rights to tell them you understand they’re unhappy about how the marriage ended and don’t currently want a relationship with your partner but you and their dad have both moved on and they have to be civil at the bare minimum. Put up with this sort of crap and they’ll never start treating you better.

moose62 · 15/03/2021 18:24

It is a shame but if your children are all adults they should accept your right to move on.

itsureis · 15/03/2021 18:30

How do your children behave with their Dads new partner ?
How old are your children and do they spend 50/50 time with you and their Dad ?

Is your new partner planning on moving in ?

It's seems very unfair of them, especially as you've been honest with them.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 15/03/2021 18:30

They should be polite to you but they absolutely don’t have to like him or build a relationship with him. You could have left first rather than be unfaithful. If it was meant to be surely he would have waited until you were available.

If you move in with him, then you may have to be prepared for them to have little contact. Obviously that’s your choice to make but I wouldn’t put a relationship over my children.

Moondust001 · 15/03/2021 18:35

So your kids are going to stay with you for the rest of your life, never leave home, never have their own lives, and be there for you in all things? Yeah right. Sorry but I don't agree. I can accept their hurt, but they don't get to dictate your life or put the blame on you for everything so punish you for it. While dad moves on because he's "guiltless". They are not babies. They need to grow up and realise that you have a right to a life and some happiness.

KidsDisapprove · 15/03/2021 18:39

They are 16/18/25. Youngest goes between both me and exH. Middle loves full time with dad as such bad feeling against me for wanting the marriage to end never mind the affair. Eldest independent.

I've been told none of them would ever want anything at all to do with him. However I don't believe this, I do think my youngest would in time as they are the most amenable to the situation.

I'm completely torn. I would never choose a relationship over my children but at the same time i don't exactly trip over them either. Youngest clearly here 50% of the time and it's lovely between us. Others when the mood takes them.

Youngest visits his dads partner with him as it's a weekend trip as she loves a little drive away. Older two have no or minimal contact. Not a great relationship with them.

ExH has turned sour against me as the children weren't happy with how things were at his house (disorganised, dirty, u tidy and he's never there) and asked me to speak to him. I tried but it went down very badly and in hindsight was a mistake so we have no contact sadly. I truly didn't think it would be like that between us.

He would never encourage them to make any effort with my partner as he feels the same - blames him for the marriage ending and belittles all the issues I've tried to raise with him that lead to its end.

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HeartsAndClubs · 15/03/2021 18:49

It’s interesting that there are posters on here who would end a friendship if they found out that the friend had had an affair, or at the very least would think less of them. And yet a poster has an affair and leaves for that man and her children should get used to it?

OP, it doesn’t matter whether you’ve explained it to them. Fact is, you left their father for another man and now you’re expecting them to want a relationship with him.

While I agree that relationships do end and that sometimes those relationships end because of affairs, the fact is it was your choice to cheat on their father, and as such it is unreasonable to expect them to welcome the OM into their lives.

Continuing a relationship off the back of an affair is always going to be messy. FWIW I’m not judging the fact that you had an affair, but your decisions were inevitably going to influence your children, and let’s be honest, “we were unhappy for years” is often one of the oldest scripts in the book to justify infidelity.

I would say that even though your children will soon be adults, you do have to choose. Because if you want a continued relationship with them as adults and they refuse to have anything to do with your partner because of what he represents, there is a chance you will lose them, and even potential future grandchildren.

It’s good that you’ve left your marriage, but the way in which it happened has now left casualties behind. You need to decide whether he was actually worth all that.

itsureis · 15/03/2021 18:51

Gosh OP your situation isn't easy is it !

Let's only hope that when your children grow up, and they see how happy you are, they will apologise for their behaviour towards you.

PamDemic · 15/03/2021 18:58

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IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 15/03/2021 18:58

He would never encourage them to make any effort with my partner as he feels the same

Of course he does and do you really expect him to encourage the children whose lives were turned upside down due to the affair?

sunnydays78 · 15/03/2021 19:00

Unfortunately I think the relationship is doomed. I was in exactly your position they’d never accept him, we split. I have a new partner and my kids get along great with him.
I’m also not sure how you can be ready to live together when your kids won’t accept him? Seems very odd

MixedUpFiles · 15/03/2021 19:05

They aren’t under any obligation to ever integrate your partner into their lives. If you can accept that and accept that you need to keep the two aspect of your life separate, then you may be able to continue the relationship if your children are willing to continue with a policy of just not bribing it up.

autumnalrain · 15/03/2021 19:10

I think you’re both selfish and naive. You are absolutely picking this man over your kids and it’s crazy you think that this will just blow over. Men come and go (as you’ve experienced this with your ex) but family are forever.

Pennywithabow · 15/03/2021 19:13

When you had an affair, you didn't just choose him over your husband, you chose him over ending your marriage properly and helping your children through that upheaval before shoving a new man down their throats. You chose him over your children and their stability. And they realise this and dislike him for it.

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