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Uninvited to family wedding

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R0SEMARY · 26/02/2021 02:51

Sorry this is long as there’s a lot of background and I don’t want to drip feed. Names/ details changed of course.

I’ve been married for 20 years to John, we have teenage kids together and John has a daughter, Helen, from a previous marriage. Helen is in her 30s and so was a teenager when I married her father. And no, I was not the OW - they were divorced years before we met.

Our marriage has been very difficult for the last 10 years, mostly because of my husband’s many affairs (among other things) . I’ve tried to leave several times but it’s complicated and I’ve stayed for the sake of the children. It’s bearable because he works away a lot and we pretty much lead separate lives.

When Helen was a teenager she lived with us for half the week. This was hard for me, I will admit, because she had a lot of behavioural issues and was very challenging. I tolerated a lot of verbal abuse and inappropriate behaviour as I knew she was troubled and unhappy. She was occasionally physically aggressive towards me, especially when I was pregnant.

After she left home things got better of course and during her 20s and 30s we have got on OK. She lives at the other end of the country with her girlfriend so we only meet up a few times a year but keep in touch by phone, what’s app, zoom etc .

They are getting married this autumn, postponed from last year. We are all involved - my teenagers are bridesmaids / ushers - it’s been years in the planning. Naturally I have my Step MOB outfit and I’ve arranged ( booked and paid for ) a week’s holiday for us all around the event, as it’s a 9 hour drive away.

However my husband has always struggled with Helen’s sexuality. He disliked her last girlfriend and really hates her current fiancée ( says she’s fat and ugly ) but I’ve always tried to smooth things over and persuade him to keep on good terms with them both. He originally didn’t want anything to do with the wedding, partly because he hates her girlfriend and partly because he has an issue with same sex relationships in general. He still thinks it’s a phase that Helen will grow out of ( sorry I know that’s offensive ).

However I talked him round and made all the arrangements so he can’t say it’s too much hassle. He didn’t even want to walk her down the aisle but I persuaded him to suggest instead that she ask her mum as they are closer.

Then tonight, out of the blue, Helen phoned me to say that she doesn’t want me at her wedding any longer but she still wants my husband and children to attend.

I was absolutely gobsmacked. We’ve been talking about this wedding for three years, I’ve helped her choose bridesmaids dresses, flowers, menu etc (at her request). She wouldn’t say why she was doing this.

There’s been no arguments or falling out of any kind - all recent conversions have been about the wedding, her work, her cats etc.

Of course I asked her father what was going on and after a long conversation he admitted that he has been lying to Helen about me for years. Basically all the negative and nasty things he has been saying to me about her, he has told her that I said them, not him.

I am so shocked. Ever since I’ve known him he’s been complaining to me about her. About her refusing to attend school as a teenager, about her self harming ( which he said was just attention seeking ), her lies and stealing, her sexuality, career choices, her dropping out of university, cheating on her previous partner, her character, her lack of religion ( he is from a conservative religious background and raised her in it ).

I’ve spent years listening to him talk about her . So often I’ve defended her and tried to get him to be a little more open minded about her beliefs and lifestyle. Persuaded him to be polite to her partners and talked about their good points. Made the effort to keep in touch, sending gifts and cards etc.

Don’t get me wrong, some of what he complains about is right and I’ve agreed with him . But I’ve never said it to anyone except him and I assumed that what we said was between us. It never crossed my mind that he was telling her anything that we discussed. It’s one of the few things I thought we were united on - that we support each other in dealing with her. Even during her adult life there’s been a lot of drama and I’ve always supported him.

And now I discover he has been undermining me to her for all these years. I’ve worked so hard to try to keep things friendly and to keep open the lines of communication and he’s been working against me behind my back.

It’s not that I thought DH loved me - I’m not under any illusion about that. He only stays because he likes the domestic servicing and he doesn’t have to pay child support or parent his children.

But I just don’t understand why he would tell all these lies for years. Why would anyone do that ? I’m just so shocked I don’t know what to think or what to do.

OP posts:
bombastical · 26/02/2021 04:00

Resolve to yourself that you are going to seek the advice of a solicitor and make a start on getting away from him

MyOtherProfile · 26/02/2021 04:03

Awful. I hope you take this opportunity to tell him it's time for him to leave.
And I would tell the children exactly why you were uninvited.

PheasantPlucker1 · 26/02/2021 04:11

Will your husband still bother to go and take the kids now youre not going?

Honestly OP I wouldnt bother trying to defend yourself. Id be tempted to walk away from her, and let her deal with her Dad.

Raindancer411 · 26/02/2021 04:19

I would spend the day with the teenagers and go somewhere nice and enjoy yourselves. Don't tell the husband your plans though.

You deserve better and think you need to start to leave him and withdrawal all "domestic servicing" as he needs to learn how to get by himself now. Concentrate on the kids as it doesn't sound like he does anything for them and at their ages, I am sure they will have noticed this by now.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

R0SEMARY · 26/02/2021 04:21

@MyOtherProfile

Awful. I hope you take this opportunity to tell him it's time for him to leave. And I would tell the children exactly why you were uninvited.
I’ve asked him to leave before but he refused - he said I had to leave with the kids. I couldn’t afford to buy in our area and they would have to move schools.

They all love their school and it has a unit where they support the one who has some SN. And of course there’s always one in an exam year.

I know women leave with nothing but a suitcase. But I thought I could put up with it for their sakes and I’d leave one the youngest had left school.

When he’s home we don’t share a bedroom . I don’t shop or cook for him or do his laundry. And he’s usually a lot - probably a third of the time ( less now because of lockdown ). And when he’s home he’s working in his home office.

I thought I had got past the stage of hating him and was now in indifference and tolerating him. But this has put me right back into despising him.

OP posts:
R0SEMARY · 26/02/2021 04:28

I would spend the day with the teenagers and go somewhere nice and enjoy yourselves. Don't tell the husband your plans though

The wedding is a weekend long event at the other end of the country. He will still go, either himself or with one child.

I suspect teen won’t want to travel 18 hours round trip to spend a long weekend in a crap hotel room with their dad . They won’t know a single person at the wedding as Helen has not invited any other family members.

Helen will be FURIOUS if her siblings don’t go - she will put a lot of pressure on them. Only one will care.

OP posts:
Leafpile · 26/02/2021 04:37

I suspect the lies to his daughter were designed to prevent you and her from ever forming a close relationship, as a form of control.

I hope you find a way to leave him, life with him sounds unbearably grim.

Eekay · 26/02/2021 04:38

@R0SEMARY it sounds like you're finding your anger. That's the spirit tbh.
I think you should seek legal advice. Find out what your rights and options are regarding the house and finances.
The scenario you picture of walking away with just a suitcase could be very far away from what would actually happen.
If you talk to a lawyer, they will likely be able to tell you there's no substance to your H's threats - and what your options really are.
You have children and a long marriage. You probably have more rights and entitlements than your husband would want you to find out.

Yepeyesaidit · 26/02/2021 04:53

Of course Idk what relationship with her is like but why not send thread to his X & let her deal? After all she already knows what a horrible person your DH is and will likely set SD straight.

And while he’s gone to wedding, you’ll have an entire week to carry out those dastardly plans—moving and filing for divorce or packing his things and changing locks.

R0SEMARY · 26/02/2021 04:56

I can’t tell you how many days and nights over the years that I’ve agonised over things with Helen. I’ve tried so so hard to help her and make things work.

I’ve posted on here ( under different names ) many times asking for advice ( although I’ve learned to be wary of some of the step mum haters on here ).

I just can’t believe that he’s spent years lying and causing trouble like this, it’s is really poisonous as @Eekay said.

I think @Crikeycroc is right in this -

He wanted to hurt his daughter and express his dislike of her without being cut out of her life

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GeorgiaGirl52 · 26/02/2021 05:05

I wonder what sort of lies he will tell your children about why you are leaving and getting a divorce? Will he call you crazy or accuse you of infidelity? You need to tell your children the truth, so they will be wary of the lies their father will certainly tell them when you leave.

Rainbowqueeen · 26/02/2021 05:06

Wow just wow.

I would make an appointment with a solicitor today for next Friday. Then you’ve got it booked but also have time to think and get organised.

He can’t force you to leave the house. It sounds like you live separately anyway. So you could both live there while legally separated. Start thinking about your finances.

I’m so sorry this has happened to you

hannayeah · 26/02/2021 05:11

I’m so sorry this has happened. It’s really awful to put all of your effort into making things ok only to find out your own husband has been actively working against you to hurt his own child.

Do whatever you need to do to protect your children from their father. He’s likely to treat them just as terribly as he has Helen when it suits him.

MMMarmite · 26/02/2021 05:43

Your husband is an absolute piece of work. I can't see any reason to stay with him. How is it better for the kids? If I was a teenager, I'd be devastated to see my mother putting up with this, and i'd lose respect for both my parents.

MMMarmite · 26/02/2021 05:47

Home should be a place of safety and happiness.

Topseeturveel · 26/02/2021 05:57

Could you afford to stay in the house if he left?

Orchidflower1 · 26/02/2021 06:00

I’d tell the dc the truth- all of it. Your dick husband (dh) will lie and manipulate them if you do not. Can you risk him citing them out if your life?can you risk that? I could not.

WithMyOldCockLinnet · 26/02/2021 06:03

Talk to a lawyer.

There may be a way to divorce / separate but stay in the house til the youngest is 18.

Cattitudes · 26/02/2021 06:12

This year exams are cancelled, assessment will probably be over by May. You could be out of there in June. You will get a fairer settlement if you still have a dependent child and it doesn't sound as if they get much from him as a father. They are all old enough to understand why. You could rent in the area until the finances are settled. You could even rent until they leave school or, as they are teenagers they could travel a little further into school. There are solutions.

Presumably the teenagers are aware that you defend Helen, they might put her right. However does it actually matter, father and daughter will soon be out of your life.

I would channel your anger into getting everything lined up to leave. Do you have a job? Do you have any family support nearby? Could you stay with them when he is home just while you sort things out? Do you know where his money all is?

Myheadmyheart · 26/02/2021 06:21

Tbh it sounds like it is a good thing you are uninvited. Why would you want to go and put on a show of happy families when you are anything but?

If it also gives you the boot up backside you need to divorce this horrible man, even better.

Classicbrunette · 26/02/2021 06:23

This is just awful, you must speak to a lawyer. Changing the locks would be the only way to keep him out but would he get cross and violent ? Break windows to get in ? I guess you get a restraining order !? The relationship is in tatters already, would it make it worse as in violent ?

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/02/2021 06:30

Please let this be the catalyst for change in your life. If you do, one day you will look back and realise what a good thing it is that he has finally blown up your life. You and your children are worth more than this. They should not have to put up with it.

You are in an abusive relationship. He is coercively controlling you. This is against the law. Get as much financial information you can and get yourself a decent lawyer. He’s hardly in the marital home. Put all of this together and hopefully you will find a way to stay there and force him to leave.

You are not doing your children any favours by staying together. They are now at an age, where you can tell them what is going on. Not the whole truth, but definitely how he has alienated his daughter from you and that you are not treated well.

Blockedoff · 26/02/2021 06:31

Op you deserve so much better.

eaglejulesk · 26/02/2021 06:34

I think you know that you have to divorce this nasty man OP. I wouldn't bother trying to explain myself to Helen either - and from what you say I would be shouting with joy at not having to attend her wedding. They both sound horrible, it's time to make a new life for yourself and your DC and be happy to be rid of John and Helen.

Slurtdragon · 26/02/2021 06:35

Op I hope you find a way to leave this bastard I really do.

Helen needs to know the truth. She’s a 30 yo woman. You do not need to protect him, over yourself. He needed her to hear what he thought, but put it on you to ‘soften the blow’ he’s a vile bastard isn’t he?

I’m with PP. I’d be writing a letter. I heard the truth from my fathers mouth, when I was 23, it confirmed all I already knew about him. It gave me peace, that he was Infact a bastard, and I didn’t need to feel sorry for him anymore. Or waste my time.

I’m sorry your going through this, it honestly sounds like you’ve had to deal with this utter shit for much too long.

I hope you can move on from it, is there anyone on this thread who can give some advice in regards to the legalities of her staying in the house? Throwing mentally abusing husband out?

Do you have any evidence of the affairs OP?
To back you, just incase, keep a diary. You might start to see some shift in how he’s treating you, recognise patterns, this man really is vile. I’m so so sorry OP, the situations shit.

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