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How to avoid extended contact with sil

192 replies

Annoyedmom · 31/01/2021 20:10

I have one child and one on the way. Sil is single, 2 months pregnant through ivf with a sperm donor.

Sil is entitled. Before we had kids she got upset dh and I got a dog without her because she had visions of choosing from the same litter and going on nightly walks together.

I don’t let sil babysit. I don’t allow alone time and no sleepovers. She has never changed my kids diaper (and has told dh she’s upset with that)

We simply don’t mesh. Whether it was her demanding her own bridesmaid dress for my wedding because she didn’t like the one we chose (she was there when it was chosen), telling me I was ruining her family’s traditions (she is still a part of her original nuclear family. And always will be), to telling me at my baby shower that my baby was part hers and she would be playing a large role (hasn’t happened) I just can’t stand her crybaby attitude and entitlement. She even bought us a photo package and demanded we all wear the same style outfit! She doesn’t know her place.

So now that that’s out of the way. We live close. Maybe 10 mins apart. My main concern is she will expect my husband to play a fatherly role to this child she is bringing into the world and that she will want the cousins to be very close (spending tons of time together, visiting grandparents together, enrolling in same extra curriculars) she is heavily enmeshed with her mother and with our babies being so close in age (3 months apart) I fear this will only get worse.

Questions:

How do I go about addressing my issues with my husband? We separated once over his inability to say no to his family and for allowing them to ruin my PP time with my son

Should we move away? I’ve lived in our city my whole life. I am open to moving if it creates distance. We know the next house we want will have a pool so now I’m worried she will want to come over all the time

How do I create appropriate distance? I’m open to visits twice per month. Nothing more. But sil will push for more and need help as a single mom. I am unwilling to help. She can ask her parents if help is needed. How do I keep to two visits if the kids want to see one another?

My mental health is more important than the relationship between the kids. If contact is consistent and prolonged and they encroach on our family time and act entitled, it will very likely result in a separation for my husband and I. I won’t be put through the same crap we dealt with for two years after the birth of my first.

OP posts:
FrippEnos · 01/02/2021 16:56

I hope that he comes to his senses and you get divorced soon.

Bumblebee1980a · 01/02/2021 17:02

@wewillmeetagain

Wow op i hope none of my sons ever marry someone like you. You sound selfish and don't really care about your husbands feelings or those of your children!
I know, imagine only being able to see your grandchild (your own son or daughters baby) only twice a month under supervision 🙈💔
Bumblebee1980a · 01/02/2021 17:06

OP can you imagine your son having a child that you're only allowed to see twice a month under supervision because their partner didn't like you.

You weren't even allowed to leave the room in case you were accused of sneaking off. How would you feel? Really think about that.

I'm wondering whether there is something wrong with you. Why you're so rigid in your ideas/beliefs.

Sssloou · 01/02/2021 17:45

Full blown panic attacks? Is your toddler witnessing this disregulated histrionic emotional behaviour? Do you realise that your child will internalise this as fear and confusion and develop their own anxieties and behavioural issues and likely chronic long term insecurities and MH issues.

Was this normal behaviour in your home growing up?

You really need to get help and support for your own MH issues.

Annoyedmom · 01/02/2021 18:00

@sssloou

It’s so nice of you to call panic attacks theatrics.

Does your toddler witness you being a doormat for your in-laws? I feel sorry for them being raised by a mother who can’t stand up and protect her nuclear family’s boundaries.

I’ve never had one until we discussed the in-laws. And thank you for strengthening my resolved to distance us even further to get away from them.

OP posts:
tigerlily20 · 01/02/2021 18:36

Why do you think your husband should be a doormat to you?

Annoyedmom · 01/02/2021 18:41

If he was a doormat to me we wouldn’t see them twice a month. We wouldn’t sleep over at their home. We wouldn’t see them on their birthdays. We wouldn’t see them at thanksgiving. We wouldn’t see them at Easter. We wouldn’t see them at Christmas.

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 01/02/2021 18:49

I feel for the OP. Her mil sounds like she guilts her son into spending important occasions with her then cries when told no. Taking the child off is not nice, why do that? Grandma sounds precious and overbearing.

tigerlily20 · 01/02/2021 18:56

It seems like you are suggesting he should be grateful to see his own family?

Annoyedmom · 01/02/2021 18:58

@tigerlily20

No; you asked a question and I gave a response.

Unless you expected me to agree with you, what else were you expecting?

OP posts:
tigerlily20 · 01/02/2021 19:03

Not much to be honest - and definitely not to agree with me. you don't seem like an agreeable person under any circumstances...

Bumblebee1980a · 01/02/2021 19:04

@Cherrysoup

I feel for the OP. Her mil sounds like she guilts her son into spending important occasions with her then cries when told no. Taking the child off is not nice, why do that? Grandma sounds precious and overbearing.
I think you're getting mixed up. Read all the posts.
Bumblebee1980a · 01/02/2021 19:14

[quote Annoyedmom]@sssloou

It’s so nice of you to call panic attacks theatrics.

Does your toddler witness you being a doormat for your in-laws? I feel sorry for them being raised by a mother who can’t stand up and protect her nuclear family’s boundaries.

I’ve never had one until we discussed the in-laws. And thank you for strengthening my resolved to distance us even further to get away from them.[/quote]
Your DS sees his dad being a doormat to you but that's ok is it because it suits you.

So you're only letting your DS see his grandparents twice a month because your husband hasn't let you getaway with you insisting no contact.

Do you even care about whether your DS wants to see his grandparent? It is it just about you and your feelings.

Me. Me. Me.

Mittens030869 · 01/02/2021 19:21

*Do you even care about whether your DS wants to see his grandparent? It is it just about you and your feelings.

Me. Me. Me.*

I'm afraid this is true, OP. Sadly, this isn't something that would even occur to you to wonder. Because you're far too selfish.

How will you cope when your DC are old enough to leave home and refuse to go along with your wishes?

Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 01/02/2021 19:44

I can’t tell if this is a wind up. If not, OP I think you need professional help.

Oneearringlost · 01/02/2021 19:58

And thank you for strengthening my resolved (sic) to distance us even further to get away fromthem.

Even further...?
Why?

Mittens030869 · 01/02/2021 20:04

Sadly, we're all wasting our time. The OP seems too self-absorbed to even take in another point of view from her own. She only wants an echo chamber, otherwise we're 'doormats'.

chemicalworld · 01/02/2021 20:05

because she's in a constant fight in those around her, and now those who disagree with her on here. It is a very worrying mindset and OP needs therapy

Thehop · 01/02/2021 20:22

I’m

Annoyedmom · 01/02/2021 20:35

@Oneearringlost

We will be moving to create more space between us. No drop ins. No unannounced visits. No quick stop ins while in town. It’s what will work best for us to balance extended family with our own private time/ busy lives.

OP posts:
Bumblebee1980a · 01/02/2021 21:09

Oh so you've decided you're definitely moving now? 😂😂😂

Annoyedmom · 01/02/2021 21:14

@Bumblebee1980a

Bigger houses and lower prices outside of the city - what’s not to love?

Oh the added distance as well is the cherry on top.

OP posts:
tigerlily20 · 01/02/2021 21:16

But you said you only saw them twice a month, now you're moving to avoid seeing them altogether? I don't want to believe this is real, but in the small chance it is...I really hope your husband divorces you, you sound like you could be dangerous.

Pumpkinpied · 01/02/2021 21:20

You are absolutely batshit if you think your behaviour is normal.

AllMyPrettyOnes · 01/02/2021 21:24

Don't even keep baiting her. She's either fake, or just completely unhinged, and hopefully, her DH will leave her one day.