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My DF called me to advise me against getting married

318 replies

Fressia123 · 21/01/2021 16:26

As per title, my DF says that money changes everything and since there's no separation of assets in the UK I simply shouldn't get married. (The wedding is in April). Not completely unexpected but still a bit but that he actually said that.

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Fressia123 · 23/01/2021 21:16

The thread has always been about my dad deciding to voice his concerns a few weeks before the wedding when he's known about it for a long time. And that instead of saying "we'll put that assets back in our names or your sisters or the baby's" his only advice is to simply not get married. When he knows I've already divorced and nothing happened to said assets.

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Souvlaki · 23/01/2021 21:23

I think he’s looking after you very well. All my marriage brought me was pain and financial complications.

Mymymble · 23/01/2021 22:43

Of course your dad should've discussed this with you a long time ago and you should have asked him. We are where we are.
There is an alternate scenario also. It's unlikely though. That's if your husband to be (or your baby - such a bad choice by your DM it doesn't bear thinking of) ends up responsible for your dad's fire businessdebts.

Mymymble · 23/01/2021 22:50

Your dad's business debts. Or tax evasion debts, sorry to say it OP and he may not have done anything illegal, but one the motive is there....

BlueThistles · 24/01/2021 03:07

Sign your Fathers assets back to him ... asap .. he shouldn't have to ask you to do this.. right?

Don't gamble with someone else's money 🌺

Livandme · 24/01/2021 08:03

I haven't read the whole thread yet but money does change people. My ex is now v money orientated and would ride rough shod over people and situations to be the financial winner.
He was never like this before and I despise his attitude
Be careful

bouncydog · 24/01/2021 08:22

Just a thought, but if your fathers business fell on hard times and the creditors found all his assets were in your name, I wonder how the courts would deal with this? Could they go after your assets including any you jointly owned with your husband or your flat? If you’re seeking legal advice, might also be helpful to ask this question.

Fressia123 · 24/01/2021 10:36

All the taxes are (as far as I'm aware) sorted. As I only own the buildings and not the business itself it's not a problem.

The house has always been mine, they registered in my name as soon as I was born. They've lost a business in the meantime and so far no problems.

The main reason has always been to avoid inherit tax more than anything else.

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Fressia123 · 29/01/2021 15:08

Quick update, I've spoken to one of the lawyers he did say that there would be a lot of "it's" (the most important finding a good lawyer). To get anything drafter would be between £9-15k . I've told my DF, he told me I'd have to pay for it, but I don't have that type of cash, so that was the end of it.

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Mymymble · 29/01/2021 17:52

user1493329086: "My parents even went a step too far than your father, they changed their will so I am no longer the beneficiary, it’s now in my uncles name, as they wanted to err on the side of caution in case they get “murdered” if I am with someone that wants to steal their estate/inheritance. I don’t need their money anyway as I would rather be poor and be with my other half."
Hugs.
This also happened to me. My mother inherited all my dad's property, pensions, collections etc. When my husband left us she secretly changed her will to leave my eldest son, then aged 14 everything, 'in case exh got hold of it.' I'm an only child. She then pressurised me to move near her to look after her. That meant I had to take on a mortgage which I can never repay so will lose my and my younger son's home. She said of course when her house was sold she'd help me but it was all a lie. I visit her constantly (lockdown permitting) but find it very hard to forgive her for manipulating us this way.
This is possibly a disaster in the making for the OP and her relationship with her parents also.

Sssloou · 29/01/2021 18:10

@Fressia123

Quick update, I've spoken to one of the lawyers he did say that there would be a lot of "it's" (the most important finding a good lawyer). To get anything drafter would be between £9-15k . I've told my DF, he told me I'd have to pay for it, but I don't have that type of cash, so that was the end of it.
I don’t understand your post - some typos?

However £9-15K is pennies to protect an estate of £1.5m - you might look back and consider it a pretty good ROI. Or you could avoid spending £9-15K and also protect your £1:5m by not getting married just having a celebration?

Mymymble · 29/01/2021 18:38

Sorry your dad won't pay, OP. I am shocked. Maybe he really doesn't have the money though. Despite claiming to you that they're millionaires. Thanks for trying.
It does concern me that he is in a legal wrangle with his bro/uncle. You (plus your intended) could end up with debts instead of assets if the court case goes bad for your dad. It'd be deja Vue for your DP even if you stay married for ever.
I'm actually more worried for you now than earlier.

Fressia123 · 29/01/2021 19:21

@Sssloou that's more or less his logic. I don't have to get married thus saving money and protecting the assets.

@Mymymble it's actually quite a complicated thing. But in a nutshell, by maternal uncle married my paternal aunt. They divorced within years but somehow there's no trace of ten divorce certificate. My uncle died (exactly six years ago) and my aunt was able to claim his pension, even though my sister was the beneficiary. Obviously my DM has massive issues about this, my DSis has forgiven my DF as he's put father after all.

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Fressia123 · 29/01/2021 19:27

*our father

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Mymymble · 29/01/2021 19:42

Okay. That doesn't sound too bad if it's just a pension issue.
It does sound like your extended family isn't great with paperwork. I wouldn't ask your sister but can you get the deeds of the houses flat and business quietly?

Fressia123 · 29/01/2021 19:50

I can yeah, I mean the solicitor knows me, so he would send them to me, no question

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Mymymble · 29/01/2021 20:04

That's great, at least you know where you stand then. And where the properties are! And your Dad has dumped this on you so can't get upset.
Hoping to hear from you soon OP. There are many people here who care for you, including some clever lawyers.

BlueThistles · 24/02/2021 13:18

is the Wedding still on OP 🌺

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