What happened to men?

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There have been a few threads along this line recently. I don't have anything new to add really; I'm just surprised that there are so many crap men about.

I've been single for a decade. In that time, I dated a bit and had a few flings but nothing that constituted a relationship.

Even men who seem decent on the surface are hiding some deeply unattractive qualities just beneath the surface.

It's got to the point where, even on the Tell me about your lovely man threads on here, my cynical voice is asking, "But what do you not know about?"; "What's he keeping from you?; "What are you tolerating that I wouldn't?"

I know the answer is patriarchy and misogyny but I wonder how we, as a species, have become so dysfunctional that so many relationships are poor; so many women are prepared to put up with so much shit and so many men are just appalling? Yet so many seem to also want a relationship.

I don't hate men. I have a son and some very close male friends I have good relationships with. But i have given up completely on ever having a mutually respectful, loving relationship now.

Mens as friends, family, colleagues are great. Men in a relationship? Just no.

I just wondered how other people feel.

I wonder if there is a male equivalent forum where men are complaining all women want to do is boring relationship things... Why can't I find a women who is into porn and having lots of sex. I don't know what's happened to women

@coronaway

I wonder if there is a male equivalent forum where men are complaining all women want to do is boring relationship things... Why can't I find a women who is into porn and having lots of sex. I don't know what's happened to women

Umm you want a woman who supports an industry that routinely exploits other women and girls ??? And consider that those who don’t are just into ‘ boring relationship things and don’t enjoy sex ?.

Porn had nothing to do with sex . It’s about power and abuse . If that’s what your into I suggest there are some women who are also into that but to say women are only into boring relationships things is odd

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I've given up trying to find someone nice. I thought my last husband was the one but he turned out to be a porn obssessed pervert who wanted to go swinging and get into BDSM which he ran off and did when I said no. Every man I meet seems to only care about porn and sex and not interested in anything lovely or fun. i don't know what's happened to men.

And yes the absolute ignorance of the truth about the porn industry amongst men ( and some women ) is staggering . Or is it that they just don’t give a shit about women and girls well-being It’s always amazing to ask them EXACTLY how they know the ages of the ‘women ‘ they are watching and how they know they aren’t supporting websites that allow no consensual

As a youngster, I probably preferred males to females generally. Was close to my dad and brother. 40+ years later, my overall expectations are pretty low. Just seen and heard and experienced too much evidence to support that view. It's got to be cultural though, there is no way baby boys are born shit, they are made like that. I'm trying really hard to ensure my DSs aren't shit!!

@Washingtofold I'm straight so would rather a man.

The thought just hit me though that there must be male dominated forums out there with lots of men complaining about women, I wonder what they're saying.

[quote coronaway]@Washingtofold I'm straight so would rather a man.

The thought just hit me though that there must be male dominated forums out there with lots of men complaining about women, I wonder what they're saying.[/quote]
Ahhh well I’m that case I think your summary is probably exactly right . That likely what they say , that we are all boring . In fact I know I’ve seen plenty of them saying they just can’t be bothered with women cause it’s too much work to actually have a relationship and why should they bother when porn gives them all they want
I guess at the end of the day it shows exactly what men think our value and worth is as human beings