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Is there anyone who ^would^ be ok with this?

473 replies

ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 06:54

I've been seeing a guy for a couple of months and its exclusive, he asked me to be his girlfriend all that. Not that it's relevant but just wanted to give some context. He's been very nice to me so far. Made a few porn related references/requests but has been respectful and not mentioned again when I've said no.

Yesterday, I spent the day alone - it was my choice. He had invited me over. Anyway, I anticipated a day of self indulgence but ended up just feeling melancholy and sad.

To 'cheer me up' he sent me a short video of something completely innocuous but at the end it transitioned to a brief 'porn' clip of a woman getting slapped in the face by an enormous erect cock. I'm aware it was probably set up but she appeared to be shocked by it and, tbh, it looked painful.

I saw it but didn't reply because I was feeling a bit crap and just couldn't be bothered dealing with it.

That was about 7pm and 40 mins later he sent a follow up message saying he had thought it was funny anyway.

I didn't respond to that either and heard nothing else.

I want to respond today saying something like, "Tbh, I'm never going to find sexual violence amusing. I think that's just exposed an incompatibility that means this isn't going to work for me. Thanks for a lovely couple of months but I'm going to leave it here."

I can anticipate his reaction that I'm over reacting and it's just a joke but I've been sexually assaulted in the past and raped and i just don't find it funny. I think its probably the sort of thing he and his mates send to each other and so won't see the problem with it.

It just put me right off.

But i am curious as to whether anyone would actually be ok with it?

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stanlet · 26/12/2020 16:20

@ByAnotherNameToday

He explained why he thought it was "funny"??

He thought the fact it came as a surprise/shock at the end of something innocuous was funny, not the clip itself. He said he hadn't intended it to upset me. He said it was a mutually consensual s&m thing.

He hasn't criticised me for my response to it at least.

But that makes no difference.

Would just be nice to meet someone kind decent, respectful, and not porn ruined!

So it is the clip I and others have seen.
ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 16:32

stanlet

I don't think so because everyone else referred to music. There was no music. Anyway, does it matter? I wasn't asking for for anyone's approval for dumping him. I can make own decisions there! I was just curious as to whether anyone wouldn't dump for it.

A few people wouldn't; most would. I'd have been content with my decision either way.

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ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 16:35

I haven't responded to him.

I don't really see the point. I've made position clear. Any further comment is just dragging it out unnecessarily.

I don't feel the need to justify. So maybe I'll just reply and thank him for explaining but saying it doesn't change how I feel.

As others said previously, if he doesn't get it, then he's not going to get it.

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AcornAutumn · 26/12/2020 16:53

@ByAnotherNameToday

I haven't responded to him.

I don't really see the point. I've made position clear. Any further comment is just dragging it out unnecessarily.

I don't feel the need to justify. So maybe I'll just reply and thank him for explaining but saying it doesn't change how I feel.

As others said previously, if he doesn't get it, then he's not going to get it.

Don’t bother I can’t help thinking it would be fun to send a similar clip of a man being humiliated but I’m going to guess you don’t have one ready and understandably won’t want to research! 😂
ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 16:53

The bottom line is it's more than just whether that video is funny or not.

I don't particularly want to be with someone who watched violent/degrading porn.

I don't want to be with someone who shares it with his friends.

I don't want to he with someone who sends it to me.

I dont want to he with someone who finds it funny.

I don't want to he with someone who has to have it explained to them why it's not funny.

I don't want to be with someone whose actions make me feel uncomfortable in any way.

I don't want to have to comfort myself into weird shapes to make myself ok with something a man does that I'm not ok with.

I just don't want to!

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AcornAutumn · 26/12/2020 16:54

@ByAnotherNameToday

The bottom line is it's more than just whether that video is funny or not.

I don't particularly want to be with someone who watched violent/degrading porn.

I don't want to be with someone who shares it with his friends.

I don't want to he with someone who sends it to me.

I dont want to he with someone who finds it funny.

I don't want to he with someone who has to have it explained to them why it's not funny.

I don't want to be with someone whose actions make me feel uncomfortable in any way.

I don't want to have to comfort myself into weird shapes to make myself ok with something a man does that I'm not ok with.

I just don't want to!

Exactly.
ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 16:59

AcornAutumn

Oddly enough no!

Although given the established porn power dynamic, even if the man is the one being humiliated then it will still be done for the sexual gratification of men

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digthroughtheditches · 26/12/2020 17:01

No. My ex-husband showed me a similar clip when we were dating, that was 15 years ago and he was early 20's. It really made me uncomfortable and I can't believe I spent so long with him, his humour was always grotesque.
It time this 50 year old grew up!

AcornAutumn · 26/12/2020 17:05

@ByAnotherNameToday

AcornAutumn

Oddly enough no!

Although given the established porn power dynamic, even if the man is the one being humiliated then it will still be done for the sexual gratification of men

Yes, if you could find it, it would be gay porn but the idea of this bellend seeing that in gay porn makes me laugh more.

He’d be asking all his friends why sone awful bee-atch sent him a gay porn clip and it’s so funny to imagine that, given what he’s sent to you 😂

clementine7842 · 26/12/2020 17:06

Totally agree with the others. I would have felt the same as you, and totally offended in his idea of a 'joke' - violence against women is not a joke and he has just shown you a side to him that is not pleasant at the very least. I think your initial instincts and reaction to this are probably correct.

ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 17:09

It time this 50 year old grew up!

Quite

Also his harsh and hurried jusgement comment just exposes the expectation that I should have just gone along with it. He gave no thought as to whether I'd be ok with it. Or even whether it was appropriate in the circumstances.

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ToffeeNotCoffee · 26/12/2020 17:19

He wanted to phone you and, 'connect in that way.' (More boundary pushing) Which means what ? He wanted a sexy chat with you so he could get off on your disgust regarding the porn clip ? Or did he think he could have a detailed discussion with you about the clip while he masturbated on the other end of the telephone ?

You are well rid of him. How disappointing. He sounded so nice. To him nice means dull and he didn't have time to let the relationship develop because it's all about his gratification. Which is what porn is all about.

Not that you could care less now, but, I wonder if he's addicted to porn. Some blokes think showing women pornography is foreplay thinking it will turn them on the same as it turns him on.

It hasn't dawned on them that it would be like showing a heterosexual man a pornographic picture of a man or men and being utterly surprised that he's not interested in seeing it.

Purplethrow · 26/12/2020 17:21

@ToffeeNotCoffee it was a friend of the Op that called her not the now ex.

CuppaZa · 26/12/2020 17:22

Grim. I wouldn’t be ok with this

Notthissticky · 26/12/2020 17:22

@ByAnotherNameToday

And they say romance is dead...

🤣

Honestly, I'm 45. How is it that 50 year old men are more disgusting than the teenage boys of youth!!

Unfortunately, I think it must be because both teenage boys and adult men have become a lot more disgusting in the past 20-30 years... I blame porn.
ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 17:33

He wanted to phone you and, 'connect in that way.' (More boundary pushing) Which means what ? He wanted a sexy chat with you so he could get off on your disgust regarding the porn clip ? Or did he think he could have a detailed discussion with you about the clip while he masturbated on the other end of the telephone ?

It was my male friend who phoned. Not the bf.

It was the juxtaposition the two responses really.

When I said I was having a bit of a shitty day...

Male friend/exbf phoned for a chat.
Boyfriend sent me a clip of a woman being sexually humiliated.

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Livelifetotheful · 26/12/2020 17:39

No. I think the word in your planned reply are good

jessstan1 · 26/12/2020 17:40

Horrible man.

ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 17:46

A such as anything, I was irritated by his, "I really liked you," reply. As though that had any bearing only decision.

It's amazing how often they say that when you dump them for shitty behaviour.

If you really like me, then don't be a twat. I won't just moan to my best friend and then just get on/put up with it.

And why on earth would,"But I really like you" offer any mitigation in my decision making?

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ByAnotherNameToday · 26/12/2020 17:46

As much

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AwaAnBileYerHeid · 26/12/2020 17:47

@ByAnotherNameToday

The bottom line is it's more than just whether that video is funny or not.

I don't particularly want to be with someone who watched violent/degrading porn.

I don't want to be with someone who shares it with his friends.

I don't want to he with someone who sends it to me.

I dont want to he with someone who finds it funny.

I don't want to he with someone who has to have it explained to them why it's not funny.

I don't want to be with someone whose actions make me feel uncomfortable in any way.

I don't want to have to comfort myself into weird shapes to make myself ok with something a man does that I'm not ok with.

I just don't want to!

Then don't be with him. Why this big hullabaloo?
AcornAutumn · 26/12/2020 17:52

OP “ And why on earth would,"But I really like you" offer any mitigation in my decision making?”

It’s an expression of entitlement I think. Or ego.

stanlet · 26/12/2020 18:20

@ByAnotherNameToday

stanlet

I don't think so because everyone else referred to music. There was no music. Anyway, does it matter? I wasn't asking for for anyone's approval for dumping him. I can make own decisions there! I was just curious as to whether anyone wouldn't dump for it.

A few people wouldn't; most would. I'd have been content with my decision either way.

Explain the clip to me.

If it's what I'm thinking of, I wouldn't dump for it in isolation. However, with everything else you've said about you've definitely done the right thing.

The obsession with his penis at his age is just horrible.

BubblyBarbara · 26/12/2020 18:28

I think I’d find that video clip funny but I think he’s trying to groom you into accepting his porn habits as normal and if you really don’t want to go down that path you need to LTB

Kettlingur · 26/12/2020 18:28

Explain the clip to me

FFS what does it matter???

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