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Married to someone with Aspergers: support thread 5

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Bluebellforest1 · 21/12/2020 11:04

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Daftasabroom · 03/12/2021 12:33

Just now: DW complains "I didn't sleep last night, I was way too hot, you told me it was going to be cold". So now it seems the menopause is my fault.

Soggymarshmellows · 05/12/2021 16:19

@Daftasabroom
You have my full sympathy
My DW is under assessment for sleep problems... but apparently I toss and turn! (We don't sleep in same bed now!).
Its so good to know I'm not imagining this.

ChristmasLightLover · 05/12/2021 20:21

Hello, can I join you please? DH is considering whether to have autism assessment. And I can't find a thread on autism rather than aspergers, so please can I sit here with you all?

Slingsanderrors · 06/12/2021 08:30

Hello and welcome @ChristmasLightLover. Lots of wisdom and support here.

Bluebellforest1 · 06/12/2021 08:32

I was just typing the same! Welcome @ChristmasLightLover

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ChristmasLightLover · 06/12/2021 09:15

Thank you Slings and Bluebell!

Am reading the the thread to catch up. I think what I find confusing is that DH is undiagnosed but we're both accepting that he'd be diagnosed if tested. And that nearly nearly 50 years of masking - which I call social scripts - means that when he does show himself it's incredibly hard for me. Hurtful to a point of are we going to divorce or not. So I'm looking forward to understanding how others make peace with this. And make their best lives together with their partners. And for their children, families and friends.

Soggymarshmellows · 06/12/2021 21:27

@ChristmasLightLover

Sadly I'm not the right person to ask. I'm getting divorced! My DW has turned really nasty since it became more imminent. She is also refusing to accept any blame and is rewriting history which is common knowledge. She's now insisting on kids 50/50. Its utterly exhausting.

Soggymarshmellows · 06/12/2021 21:28

Aspergers isn't diagnosed anymore its all Autism.

SpringCrocus · 07/12/2021 00:58

My DD was diagnosed with Aspergers, in 2020. So it still was, then

ChristmasLightLover · 09/12/2021 08:38

DH has labyrinthitis. In bed. Well in himself. Until he moves. Dependent on me. So this clearly is going well. He is rude. Can't be wrong on something. Thinks he's funny asking for lightly buttered bread with cream cheese sandwiches and thinly sliced beetroot in the middle whilst I work, sort teens who are revising and the dog and get basketball kit back to basketball tho we are not attending because of revision. Yes, I will do that as I eat cereal. Fucks sake.

Arguments this morning with plenty of swearing. Younger teen who we are considering for assessment has left the house without saying goodbye for first time ever. Slightly older teen says they shouldn't have to say bye to me in a morning or hug me and say love you. So yes, I sat and sobbed over that.

Living in a house of neurodiversity is hard. Husband and one teen definitely autistic. Other one we are unsure on. He has behaviours but am unclear if it's environmentally learned or just him being a horrid teenager!

Happy Thursday. How is everyone else doing?

Daftasabroom · 11/12/2021 13:27

A very odd or perhaps revealing comment from DW last night. I have mentioned before that she seems to misremember events and conversations, that her internal translators don't work properly, so she sometimes seems to just make stuff up.

We had a family row last night watching a documentary and she went off on one having completely missed the point. A while later when calm had returned she said that we bully her and it's not her fault she can't remember things.

Bluebellforest1 · 12/12/2021 16:47

@Daftasabroom that is very very (scarily) familiar. H does exactly the same, misremembers, then makes stuff up to fill in the gaps, and when I call him out on it, he accuses me of bullying him.

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Soggymarshmellows · 12/12/2021 18:34

Omg exactly the same here

I'm also 'controlling and a bully' if I call this out. Shes really angry now as she can't claim DD is this too and sadly she backs me up.
I have been told this week by an advisor I have for separation that all these things are a way of controlling me. It was so upsetting to hear. But I now can't unhear it. All these years I've felt she needed support and couldn't cope and now I've been told this was likely a way to control me and her environment.. so its not me! Shes refusing to make quite obvious decisions for the separation... and worse still getting advice but not actually describing the problem properly so getting wrong advice. I've been accused of all kinds of random stuff this week. Can't decide how she's come to the conclusions she has. Must be confusion. Its sad to think that's the case. But worse still people seem to believe her as she's so harmless appearing and socially awkward. So I just look like a terrible person.

Soggymarshmellows · 12/12/2021 18:38

@ChristmasLightLover

Its tough when you have a house full. I'm sure your boys love you so much. Sometimes my ds's lack of affection gets me down...then he does a small thing that shows he does. He drew a picture of me having an operation with blood spurting and a knife (i had a minor op) and wrote hope the cut feels better soon for example! (DW forgot I was having the procedure and didn't pick me up on time).

ChristmasLightLover · 22/12/2021 14:14

How are we all doing in the run up to Xmas day?

DH is fearful of getting it wrong and me sobbing on the day so wants me to have any old shite and struggling with my polite no thank yous. We have had Xmas days where I have opened nothing at all so it's a tricky area for us all.

Newbie8365 · 22/12/2021 14:24

I cant believe I have found this thread! I've just read the article in the first thread and now will go back and read the comments. I this my husband may have Asperger's and I've been at a real low point the past few days. I think this may be just what I need!

Bluebellforest1 · 22/12/2021 18:44

Welcome @Newbie8365. Read through all the threads, lots of advice and support here. Look forward to your posts

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Daftasabroom · 23/12/2021 09:29

@ChristmasLightLover Yesterday morning I was thinking the run up to Christmas wasn't feeling too bad, by the evening I'd changed my mind. DW has very high and rigid expectations of Christmas and big events yet fails to communicate what those expectations are.

Yesterday afternoon we started planning meals etc in detail. Yet again we go back the same old scenario - if it isn't her idea or what she is expecting it can't possibly be right. The fact that she can't articulate what she expects, or maybe hasn't considered something at all is irrelevant. Something as simple as planning a meal results in bickering and negativity which snowballs into real nastiness. E.g. Planning boxing day lunch (I’ll do most of the cooking) DW and DS1 are veggie, I check with invitees who eats what, DNiece has turned vegetarian, fine the veggie dish we have serves four. DW wasn’t expecting DN to be vegetarian and was really upset and insists this has thrown all her plans out, plans she didn’t have.

You can almost cut the tension, I’m just waiting for the meltdown (it will be just before we eat on either Christmas or Boxing Day).

AspergersWife · 26/12/2021 14:26

Hi everyone, how are you and your partners all doing with the stress of Christmas?

Thought I'd give a little update as I've got a moment of quiet. It's been about 2 months since H moved out to live at his dad's and recently he completed on a house of his own. We've signed paperwork to legally separate us and just need to update our wills. H has managed to get beds for the house but no sofas, tvs etc, so not very homely yet but he has had the kids to stay a couple of weekends and they've loved it. And I've loved having some actual, genuine time for myself instead of being the only parent on call 24/7.

I have to say I'm seeing lots positives of him since he left, he's more talkative and friendly when I see him, has more energy for the kids, brings me little gifts and thoughtful things, does odd favours for me, but I know it actually means nothing. I've switched my heart off to him, but I can't be outright strict with him as im relying on his maintenance payments so feel like I have to keep it sweet and let him think we are 'best friends' as he keeps banging on about. My aim over the forthcoming year will be to get a better paid job so that I don't need to worry if he pays maintenance or not. Currently I'm just doing a very small part time job due to my son's needs and needing to fit round his school hours.

For anyone considering a split but not ready yet, you might like to hear that it is just so liberating not having to live around his moods and his expectations and selfishness. I don't think it's possible to be aware of what a real drain the ASD partner can be until that pressure is removed. But also I think my H has other issues too on top of his Aspergers, so I'm not saying every ASD partner is mean and selfish and as hard to be with as my H was. And it's not all about me, I'm sure he must be happier too not forcing himself to live in our NT world and having family expectations. It was weird at first, but not harder, and I quickly got used to him not being here. I didn't know I could actually be this happy. The children seem fine with it, it was up and down at first but they're doing well. I'm totally fine with it. I'm alone but not lonely anymore, not feeling resentful or neglected or like I'm just his household maid and nanny with no thanks. I feel like myself again, lost a few pounds just from not comfort eating and being generally happier, and I even went out on a date recently! It's not going anywhere with that bloke but it was nice to go out and nice to know I'm not repulsive to other men Grin

H keeps saying idealistic things like we'll go on a summer holiday together, he will pay for Disney next year, we'll go on family days out etc etc. and that he misses chatting to me, forgetting that he's barely talked to me in the past 2 years. He even rang me for a chat the other night, and asked would he be ok to do that more. I replied we are only in this situation because he chose to spend all his time chatting to others online and that he should call them when he wants a talk. It's like he wants the comfort of my familiarity without putting in the hard work of a friendship/relationship.

I had a fantastic relaxing Christmas Day and the difference compared to previous years is eye opening. Other years he's bought me nothing, or wanted a list so ge didn't have to think. This year he turned up with some very nice things for me 'from the kids' that I hadn't asked for. Last year he didn't do anything for the kids gifts, this year he's bought stuff for them to open at his house. He spent last year moaning and being moody, then sleeping upstairs, ignoring us all, this year he wasn't here long enough for me to notice his moods.

My friend nailed it when she said that in other years I've had the pressure of making everything 'perfect' for the kids to compensate for him being there physically but so seriously lacking in terms of emotion and interaction, and that defines it absolutely. I didn't really understand that before but it makes perfect sense why I'm feeling zero Christmas stress, that weight of needing to be 2 parents and make it magical has been totally lifted. Our day didn't need to be anything more than it was, just us enjoying ourselves. The kids seemed more chilled, so I suspect they were feeding off my more relaxed attitude.

There were of course a couple of irritants - H only visited for 2 hours over lunchtime (he was not invited to eat with us, we did dinner later), and even though he hadn't had to actually do anything other than look at the kids' new things he still managed to fall asleep for half an hour or so on the sofa before DS yelled at him to wake up Hmm predictable but so ridiculous. He's had days to himself, a full week of solid nights sleep unlike me with bed wetters and bad dreams, plus he had a nice lie in for Christmas morning, but somehow still needed a nap 🙄🙄 But it just helped me remember that he can never sustain the 'good guy/involved father' image he's been trying to portray since he moved out.

The other annoying thing is he told me in a couple of months he may not be able to see the kids one weekend as he's doing X activity - with the online woman he got obsessed with, her sister, and a male gamer friend who he knows IRL. It's irked me because the activity is something I'd have loved to have done and he always acted very negatively about it and would never try it. But of course as OW is interested in it, he's now suddenly super passionate about it and is rewriting history pretending he's always been into it. He's still saying they are just friends, which may well be the case, but it again proves to me he could have done things for me after lockdown lifted, but just couldn't be arsed. The activity involves travelling to another city, a late night, and a long journey. Anything I suggested like this apparently would have caused him too much anxiety, he just couldn't do it, Aspergers/anxiety prevents him doing anything other than gaming and thus I'm selfish for asking, too many expectations, too demanding etc etc. But for someone else he wants to impress he'll put himself out of his comfort zone. Again predictable but bloody annoying. Still I know that when I'm ready I can do the activities I wanted to either alone, with friends or down the line if I meet someone else who can appreciate it with me - genuinely and not just putting a false face on it as no doubt he'll be doing for them.

Good luck to those of you who are struggling with your partners this season. Try to get some time to yourself and get some respite where you can x

Daftasabroom · 28/12/2021 10:22

Christmas was okay, so by our standards it was good. DW behaved, Mum and Dad didn’t bicker, no falling out between SIL and her DD, I stayed soberish, the kids came down from their rooms. We did have a couple of moments and DW is having a bit of shutdown today, that’s okay, it gives me a bit of peace and quiet.

Her family are due for New Year – that’s going to be a challenge.

Skye99 · 28/12/2021 14:59

Pleased to hear it’s been OK and no meltdown so far, Daftasabroom.

Have been too busy to post so far. Christmas has been OK here too. Actually better for me than last year when I was planning to ask for a divorce but had not done it yet. Weirdly, my H has behaved better since I did. Maybe it got through to him that his behaviour was really making me unhappy and was unreasonable. He still does selfish and inconsiderate things, but he doesn’t argue black is white that he was right (much). However, he still doesn’t think ahead or take anyone but himself into account before saying things or doing things.

We are planning to live separately in three years, when we will be more able to afford to. Meanwhile things should be able to stay amicable.

Skye99 · 28/12/2021 15:05

Happy to hear of the improvement for you, AspergersWife. What you describe about activity X does sound super annoying.

It has often puzzled me that my H wanted to go out with me, talk about mutual interests (like books) and go on holidays before we got married to, but not afterwards. (In fact he didn’t want to talk much afterwards at all.) I can well imagine that if he had a new person he was interested in he would be exactly the same with her.

Skye99 · 28/12/2021 15:08

Hello and welcome, ChristmasLightLover and Newbie8365.

Soggymarshmellows · 30/12/2021 22:06

Hello... not been on for a while (and I think name changed.. )
@AspergersWife I could have literally written your post... word for word about DW! I'm not as far along as you in separation but getting there. DW is being a lot nicer to me too, but it made me laugh when you said your ex-H couldn't keep up the dad act... I've had exactly the same played out here. My DC are older and one is themselves autistic and they both saw through it. Its pretty hilarious really. I totally opted out of Christmas this year too. DW actually bought food and cooked. Its annoying she never did it when I asked for 15 years..but its a step forward for her. And yes I agree previously I'd felt a huge pressure to overcompensate. We have a rubbish family on both sides to boot.
DW said to me 'you must be finding it so much harder without me around on your days with DC'....and honestly I'm not. I actually get some time off now... its marvellous. I don't have to stress over various pernickety chores etc. I do miss the DC...but the flip.side is that they now themselves realise how much I bloomingwell did for all these years and are understanding. DW can't do a thing without one DC needing to contact me for essential info. I'm working on reducing that as lovely it seems for me it isn't fair on her or them. She's 50. Its time she stood on her own 2 feet really...