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Is this love bombing or is this man just keen and knows what he wants?

188 replies

piddocktrumperiness · 16/12/2020 10:08

I matched with a guy on Friday on Tinder, went for an impromptu walk that afternoon- he was pleasant enough and we found out we had been under each others noses all these years (went to the same schools, same college, lived in the same neighbourhood). I didn't have any other plans that evening, so accepted his second date request for a coffee.

He shared a lot of personal information about his very very vulnerable past claiming he couldn't believe he's telling me this, but felt compelled to. We had a third date on the Saturday and again it was pleasant. I felt no spark but I never really have so I tend to keep my guard and let them grow on me type of thing. If the date was overall pleasant with no major red flags, I go on another to double check.

He messages a lot-alot. He texts in the morning, tells me the thought of me makes him smile. We talk for hours on the phone, and ask each other questions ( we have lots in common it seems- our answers are nearly always the same). He said that he is an all in or all out type of guy, and that he spend several years single to learn more about what he likes and doesn't and would rather be single than in the wrong relationship- but he feels something special is brewing between us and that he'd like to give it a real shot. He said he felt a spark and some butterflies on the first date and was buzzing ever since. He has also said he is willing to get off the app and focus on seeing where this goes- intense!

I told him to calm down, that I take things super slow, at my own pace that I have been hurt before, so I am very cautious and petty skeptical and that men talk the talk- I look for actions and for actions to match the words. I told him to stop idealising me, as he doesn't know me yet. I told him that asking me to make a decision to take things forward after 24 hrs is intense and I won't do it ( I think he may have been a little hurt when I told him I had a date arranged for a while, for later in the week- he said he cancelled the dates he had) He has said that he isn't intense, or doesn't mean to come across like that, but that he genuinely feels something special and is very excited about it and that he thinks all the similarities, the fact we were under each others noses, same schooling, all of it are signs that we were aligned and supposed to meet each other- for a reason.This all to me sounds like major love bombing run away territory. He has also said he wants me to keep my guard up so that he can prove he is sincere and that he can earn my trust. He said he wants to build a fulfilling long lasting relationship that is built on friendship, however long it takes, so he's willing to take sex off the table ( however difficult it is for him) for as long as I want- because he wants to get to know me, for me.

I have been semi love bombed before- they get exhausted after a few weeks, it's never the lavish gifts or anything but it's the over promising and under delivering, the compliments, and the verbal affection- so I am always skeptical. Most men I date don't put half as much effort and most certainly don't know what they want. However, through our long conversations, this guy comes across as having his head screwed on well, his values and outlook on life are similar to mine, which makes me a bit pissed off that he is so intense like this.

I guess I'd like to know if from any of your experiences, do men know from the first date that they found someone special? Can they come across intense but from a good place? I can't figure out if he really is love bombing me or if he is a hopeless romantic.

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Rainbowshine · 17/12/2020 19:07

Block delete etc!!

Nore · 17/12/2020 19:09

Not your job to educate him, or deal with his refusal to take no for an answer, @piddocktrumperiness.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 17/12/2020 19:25

@piddocktrumperiness

Thanks everyone! Just had a text pop up from him on whatsapp- "If I did something wrong I'd appreciate you letting me know too"

I've not opened it.

That's why many of us said to block him, because he was likely to do this. Can you just block him now? Much wiser than replying or ignoring him and letting more messages come through. Just block - job done.

The arrogance of him being so shocked combined with him saying he was transparent so not sure what more you wanted... even if someone is 100% authentic it doesn't mean the other person should just keep seeing them no matter what!

Please just block him or it's continuing interaction unnecessarily.

HappyDays10101 · 17/12/2020 19:34

Definitely just block him. You don’t owe someone you’ve known for a week any kind of explanation..

firecracker69 · 17/12/2020 19:40

The text just proves undoubtedly that he does not respect your boundaries! It's all about him.

JinglingHellsBells · 17/12/2020 19:43

His first message to you comes over to me as insincere.

It also sounded slightly sarcastic although his real intent was to make you feel shit.

Round 1 to him.

He's now trying to open up a dialogue whereby you will say X Y and Z was missing and he will promise to try to fulfil those gaps.

He sounds desperate but also controlling.

Do not engage with him.

piddocktrumperiness · 17/12/2020 19:56

You’re right and I’ve blocked him.
Onwards and upwards!

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myrtlehuckingfuge · 17/12/2020 21:12

Remember Tinder too.

Honeyroar · 17/12/2020 22:26

Your message to him was polite, gentle and assertive. You gave enough reasons. Onwards and upwards as you say.

Re real, romantic love versus love bombing - you’ve said it yourself- it’s about feeling relaxed, natural, and smooth in how it ticks along easily.

GentlemanJay · 17/12/2020 22:34

A female friend of mine started talking to a guy on an app. She had a couple of VERY LONG calls with him. On their first face to face meeting he told her he loved her and wanted to spend the rest of his life with her.

Update. She's taking it slowly.

Another friend of mine got love bombed earlier this year. It's really screwed her up.

Joelijane · 17/12/2020 22:47

Your being really wise, listening to your gut too. Keep doing what your doing. I think your on here cause maybe there's a dis ease thats coming up. Stay boundaried. If its right you'll be able to just take it a bit further. Looking at my past I now recognise intensity and escalating things quickly as a red flag or some unhealthy patterns x

Joelijane · 17/12/2020 22:49

Oops I'm obviously late to the party! He's a goner! Thank fuk for that, phew! Xx

Whatisthisfuckery · 17/12/2020 22:50

Well done for blocking the freak OP. The guy is a total nutter. Ergh, who needs that level of crazy in their life?

TheCattleGrid · 17/12/2020 22:53

Hello my dear! Had to create new account as could not log in. So good you've blocked him...he would keep on trying to get a reaction and probably get nasty at some point. You sound cheery and I'm so glad . It is sad and disappointing ...even if he was a very dodgy guy you'll have had some Hope's and excitement. That last text....perfect proof of the fact he has no respect for boundaries and is needy and demanding. Have a good Christmas and good luck finding someone you deserve.

NoDontDoIt · 18/12/2020 09:57

You totally did the right thing, this guy is nutty, find someone less obsessive

piddocktrumperiness · 20/12/2020 12:48

He blocked me too.For the PP that said men like this move on quickly. You are right. During our conversations he had said he was on POF and Tinder and asked what apps I'm on, I told him (tinder, bumble and hinge)
He signed up yesterday to both bumble and Hinge and had " you should not go out with me if you are emotionally unavailable!" - Was that a dig?
I'm emotionally available, but over time and not over one week!
Felt quite uncomfortable seeing crossing his profile tbh.

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TheCattleGrid · 20/12/2020 12:50

Don't sniff yesterday's garbage. Smile

Maigue · 20/12/2020 12:53

By ‘emotionally available’ he means something like ‘prepared to be charmed by my lovebombing, my set of well-worked Hallmark clichés about specialness and ‘sparks’, and my Strong Man Brought Low By Trauma And Only You Can Fix Me, You Lucky Thing act.’

You should feel confirmed in your total rightness, @piddocktrumperiness.

Techway · 20/12/2020 12:55

I'm not sure it was a dig at you but his warped view that if women don't declare commitment in a week then they are obviously not emotional available. Nothing to do with him...it's a great strategy as it helps him avoid any accountability.

I avoid men with those types of comments in profiles so hope other women will avoid him.

category12 · 20/12/2020 13:00

Ha, that's quite amusing. On the bright side, OP, you've got him to wave his red flag on his profile for people to steer clear from the off, so you've done women everywhere a service.

Tooearlyforgin · 20/12/2020 13:06

Exactly what @category12 said - he's helpfully highlighted his fuckwittery on his profile

piddocktrumperiness · 20/12/2020 13:41

@TheCattleGrid Absolutely!
@Tooearlyforgin @category12 - Sure hope so! I avoid those comments too- so hopefully many more do as you say.
@Techway- Very unusual and warped indeed- declaration of commitment and exclusivity within 24 hours of meeting? Nuts.

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piddocktrumperiness · 20/12/2020 13:45

@Maigue
I'm so proud of myself- I struggled with self trust in the past but I'm so happy that I just did it and not thought with my head too much by rationalising and giving him excuses- I cut the string early and I'm relieved. It's like it's confirmation that gut isn't broken and that I still can rely on it.

Truly grateful for the advice and wisdom of everyone here. I'm so grateful for this site and am thankful to you all that you have taken time out of your own lives to offer advice to a complete stranger like myself- thank you.

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Opentooffers · 20/12/2020 14:02

Well done OP. He has just shown you that you (and usWink) were right about him. He's joined your site's and advertised on his profile that he is bitter about being recently dumped. That, in itself, shows that he's emotionally unstable, and very immature. It's no way that a grounded man with his head screwed on would behave.

MysteryMy · 20/12/2020 14:32

you should not go out with me if you are emotionally unavailable

Projection! Bossy! Massive red flags right there!

Like when they say "honesty" is the most important thing to them in their profile. This I read seeing a profile from a (thankfully short-lived) dishonest NPD ex!

I never respond to profiles that say I should be "x" and I should be "y"! CEO mentality again!

Yeah, possibly a dig, you can add Childish jerk! too.

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