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Is this love bombing or is this man just keen and knows what he wants?

188 replies

piddocktrumperiness · 16/12/2020 10:08

I matched with a guy on Friday on Tinder, went for an impromptu walk that afternoon- he was pleasant enough and we found out we had been under each others noses all these years (went to the same schools, same college, lived in the same neighbourhood). I didn't have any other plans that evening, so accepted his second date request for a coffee.

He shared a lot of personal information about his very very vulnerable past claiming he couldn't believe he's telling me this, but felt compelled to. We had a third date on the Saturday and again it was pleasant. I felt no spark but I never really have so I tend to keep my guard and let them grow on me type of thing. If the date was overall pleasant with no major red flags, I go on another to double check.

He messages a lot-alot. He texts in the morning, tells me the thought of me makes him smile. We talk for hours on the phone, and ask each other questions ( we have lots in common it seems- our answers are nearly always the same). He said that he is an all in or all out type of guy, and that he spend several years single to learn more about what he likes and doesn't and would rather be single than in the wrong relationship- but he feels something special is brewing between us and that he'd like to give it a real shot. He said he felt a spark and some butterflies on the first date and was buzzing ever since. He has also said he is willing to get off the app and focus on seeing where this goes- intense!

I told him to calm down, that I take things super slow, at my own pace that I have been hurt before, so I am very cautious and petty skeptical and that men talk the talk- I look for actions and for actions to match the words. I told him to stop idealising me, as he doesn't know me yet. I told him that asking me to make a decision to take things forward after 24 hrs is intense and I won't do it ( I think he may have been a little hurt when I told him I had a date arranged for a while, for later in the week- he said he cancelled the dates he had) He has said that he isn't intense, or doesn't mean to come across like that, but that he genuinely feels something special and is very excited about it and that he thinks all the similarities, the fact we were under each others noses, same schooling, all of it are signs that we were aligned and supposed to meet each other- for a reason.This all to me sounds like major love bombing run away territory. He has also said he wants me to keep my guard up so that he can prove he is sincere and that he can earn my trust. He said he wants to build a fulfilling long lasting relationship that is built on friendship, however long it takes, so he's willing to take sex off the table ( however difficult it is for him) for as long as I want- because he wants to get to know me, for me.

I have been semi love bombed before- they get exhausted after a few weeks, it's never the lavish gifts or anything but it's the over promising and under delivering, the compliments, and the verbal affection- so I am always skeptical. Most men I date don't put half as much effort and most certainly don't know what they want. However, through our long conversations, this guy comes across as having his head screwed on well, his values and outlook on life are similar to mine, which makes me a bit pissed off that he is so intense like this.

I guess I'd like to know if from any of your experiences, do men know from the first date that they found someone special? Can they come across intense but from a good place? I can't figure out if he really is love bombing me or if he is a hopeless romantic.

OP posts:
Clymene · 16/12/2020 15:06

I was going to write another post explaining what he'd said that sent my spidey senses off but actually I see that @Cattlegrid has written two excellent posts meaning I don't need to elaborate.

You should print those out OP.

piddocktrumperiness · 16/12/2020 15:11

@Whatisthisfuckery- love your name! it's how I feel about this whole thing ha ha!
Yes, I posted because I honestly have a clouded judgement- my mind and gut tell me different things and it's stemming from some insecurities that I have.

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Whatisthisfuckery · 16/12/2020 15:41

OP would you be so taken in if it was a get rich quick scheme he was selling? Why are you willing to put your emotional well being and self esteem where you would never put your cash? Value yourself more my dear.

Badadabing · 16/12/2020 15:42

A quick google...
alarm bells are ringing

Is this love bombing or is this man just keen and knows what he wants?
Is this love bombing or is this man just keen and knows what he wants?
Is this love bombing or is this man just keen and knows what he wants?
youvegottenminuteslynn · 16/12/2020 16:01

@Whatisthisfuckery

OP would you be so taken in if it was a get rich quick scheme he was selling? Why are you willing to put your emotional well being and self esteem where you would never put your cash? Value yourself more my dear.
This is such a good way of thinking about this - going to steal it for future!
firecracker69 · 16/12/2020 16:06

How I wish I had known about this site a few years ago.... such insightful advice. ❤️

namechangeforfriday · 16/12/2020 16:08

Love bombing. I’ve had a couple like this and it went horribly pear shaped when they couldn’t keep it up anymore and had to face up to the fact they hadn’t healed from past traumas and weren’t ready for the realities of a relationship.

NoDontDoIt · 16/12/2020 16:11

I'm voting lovebomber - as mentioned upthread, he seems to be carefully 'creating debts'

firecracker69 · 16/12/2020 16:15

That's exactly my experiences. They love bomb relentlessly then realise they cannot keep up the exhausting charade. The shit then hits the fan, when they realise they are not capable of a healthy relationship. This results in them blowing hot and cold and the games begin.... or should I say, the manipulation and emotional abuse. Meanwhile the victim starts to doubt themselves and question if he stills cares etc.

namechangeforfriday · 16/12/2020 16:59

@firecracker69

That's exactly my experiences. They love bomb relentlessly then realise they cannot keep up the exhausting charade. The shit then hits the fan, when they realise they are not capable of a healthy relationship. This results in them blowing hot and cold and the games begin.... or should I say, the manipulation and emotional abuse. Meanwhile the victim starts to doubt themselves and question if he stills cares etc.
Couldn’t have put it better myself
JorisBonson · 16/12/2020 17:03

Jesus. I'd be nipping this "relationship" in the bud pronto.

5 days. 120 hours of knowing each other and you're asking for advice on Mumsnet. Doesn't look good OP.

Amerimoon · 16/12/2020 17:19

This is definitely love bombing.

This is OP, why would he be so enamoured with someone he barely knows? Why is he idolising you so much? What have you done yet to warrant that sort of response? Are we saying that no woman ever before in his life has engaged in polite texting, gone for a walk/ coffee with him, listened to his stories and found they had things in common? Honestly that’s about what you’ve established so far. The future bombing is incredibly odd - how could he possibly be so sure he wants that.. and even more worryingly, if he is sure ... why? What’s going on in this man’s head/ life to cause him to cling so tightly to a stranger. I would suggest you back right off and look at the big picture here. Take care not to be pushed into a fast road to nowhere. This could be the start of a total nightmare.

nosswith · 16/12/2020 17:33

Love bombing, or desperation for a relationship, not sure which.

You have doubts which is enough to slow things down or end the relationship.

Rainbowshine · 16/12/2020 17:40

It’s love bombing. A very clear case of it in my opinion.

I hate the idea of a hopeless romantic. It gives license to men to behave in ridiculous ways, or simply appear inept as if that’s some kind of virtue or even behave in sinister ways, and for it be excused without question. It’s similar to the “boys will be boys” mentality that drives me nuts.

Most of the “romantic” behaviour in movies would actually creep most women out and could be harassment, stalking and reportable to the police. Hanging around where you work with a bunch of flowers after you have declined a date or split up? That’s not respecting boundaries is it?!

@piddocktrumperiness please don’t see this man as a guy that you have to see, he’s making you feel obliged to see him.

A man who is genuinely keen would be thinking about what pace you would like things to go at, would think about where you would feel comfortable and interested in going to, would not overwhelm you with messages. They’d be wary of coming on too strong and putting you off. That’s because they’d understand that you have agency and choice about who you see, and aren’t entitled and expect you to drop everything and have second dates instantaneously and reply to them every minute of the day.

In summary, run!

Flibbitygibbit · 16/12/2020 17:51

I'd be not continuing this because there was no spark for him on your part... if that's not there it's pointless let alone all this from him !

PicsInRed · 16/12/2020 17:58

Less than a week. 🤔 I suppose a normal man could be in love straight away, I suppose he could decide you're it ... but a normal one would keep that under his hat and try not to scare you off while he got to know you better (and let you get to know him).

He's also telling you some deeply personal stuff really early.

The fact he is one massive emotional arterial bleed would give great cause for concern.

WhatsAParlay · 16/12/2020 18:03

@Cattlegrid put it in a much more structures way than I did and I agree with every word. Please listen OP.

firesong · 16/12/2020 18:07

It's too hard to tell just yet. I would see what happens next, now that you have asked to take it slow.

I like the type of man who will pursue, BUT definitely not pressure. I couldn't have a wishy washy start. However, if he won't respect your wish to take some time and be more casual, he is not the man for you whether he is love-bombing or just quite into you!

wobblywinelover · 16/12/2020 18:26

www.psychopathfree.com/articles/30-red-flags-of-manipulative-people.212/

please read this OP and run for the hills, it will only get worse.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 16/12/2020 18:27

How sure are you that he definitely went to the same school/college etc? Why haven’t your paths crossed before? Do you have mutual acquaintances? If so, can you check him out through them? It just sounds a bit coincidental!

Apart from that, he sounds like a massive massive pain in the arse. If you aren’t comfortable or feeling the spark, then that should be enough for you. Never mind how good he looks on paper!

Higgeldypiggeldy35 · 16/12/2020 18:32

This has given me the shivers and reminds me of a close call I had several years ago. I met someone online and he love bombed me, told about family bereavement (suicide) told me he couldn't wait for his mum to meet me, said she would love me, talking about babies and how he loved pregnant women and found them so attractive and how he wanted kids. I was young and inexperienced and got totally sucked in. He was a police officer. That made me think he would be safe. He slept with me a few times all the while gushing about how he felt and then literally out of nowhere he blocked me. I was heart broken. But what a lucky escape in the long run. Behaviour like this waves a hundred red flags for me I'm afraid and I wouldn't pursue this any further. Good luck

WhatsAParlay · 16/12/2020 18:42

www.psychopathfree.com/articles/30-red-flags-of-manipulative-people.212/

^^

This. Exactly this.

SwanShaped · 16/12/2020 19:56

I agree with the aspect of making you feel like you owe him something. Waiting for sex, telling you his trauma and suchlike. You’ll end up feeling like you have to go on another date because you’d be a bitch if you didn’t. Because he’s so ‘nice and thoughtful.’ Which just then gets you trapped in. You don’t owe him anything.

NovemberR · 16/12/2020 20:06

To be honest it seems to be all about what he feels. What he wants. His needs.

He doesn't appear to be interested in what you feel. He feels a spark...he feels it's special.

It doesn't appear that you do. I'd be backing well away I think.

wewereliars · 16/12/2020 20:21

I have food in the fridge older than whatever this relationship is, and you seem to know his entire life story. I would give him a huge swerve. I think he sounds very manipulative