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Received some really unpleasant texts from son’s gf.

188 replies

2389Champ · 18/10/2020 21:45

My son and his Spanish gf have moved back to the U.K. in the last month following the loss of his job. They have moved into a second property I own and because of their situation I’m not charging them any rent to help them until they get back on their feet. I’ve made it very clear that whilst they are there it is their home. My son is professionally trained but is applying for anything just so he can work. Gf does some online language tutoring but has always refused to apply for jobs as she has a degree and believes she shouldn’t have to accept anything less than her worth. It’s never been an issue to me and I’ve kept out of as she’s his choice although I know it’s caused arguments between them because my son has complained to me.

The big problem is she has brought a large dog over with her that is aggressive and untrained. She has had it from a puppy so can’t blame anyone else for its behaviour. She has this wacky idea about not using any discipline to train it - only gentle handling. She won’t listen to anyone about the problem and believes she can sort it herself. It’s so bad it can’t go out in public. When we visited last weekend it went for my husband and bit him without provocation and tried to bite me. She is lucky in that we are dog lovers so didn’t react as someone else might but I warned her that anyone visiting was potentially in danger and that she would be liable. Unsurprisingly, it’s not insured either because she says she can’t afford it.

We have a painter and decorator going in next week (I’ve warned him already!) which she wants me to cancel because “it will upset the dog and can’t I wait another month when it is settled?” I’ve refused because she’s had the dog for 8 months already in Spain and I can’t see any improvement in another month, plus I can’t inconvenience my decorator as he’s self employed and has a business to run. I pointed out that she knew that the flat needed work, that painter was booked months ago and if it was such a problem to the dog perhaps she should have continued staying with her family in Spain until it was trained. Again, my son confided that the dog was causing massive issues with her family whilst there too.

I’ve always generally got on well with her and exchanged friendly texts. Last night and today she has suddenly launched a verbal tirade of texts on me about how I’ve not made her feel welcome, that the dog’s training is nothing to do with me, that by allowing the decorator in I have ruined all the good work that has gone into the dog, that I’ve left her with no option but to return to Spain and blaming me for ruining and ending their relationship!

I’m absolutely gobsmacked and stunned where this has come from. I’ve always been friendly and welcoming to her and the dog issue is the only time I’ve ever said anything controversial - but felt I had to as this animal is seriously vicious, more to warn her that it might end in tears if it attacks someone. I’m probably a bit of a wuss but I feel really emotional tonight about it. I don’t want to call my son as I believe if they have issues, they need to sort it out without me being involved and possibly there is tension between them too.

I’ve not responded to the texts either as I don’t want to further inflame things although I think she was totally out of order to message me like this. Have I handled things badly?

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Yogawithmydog · 18/10/2020 22:21

Does she have any idea of how many graduates in this country are hunting down any job just to be able to pay their bills? I'd invite her to move to another flat and pay full rent for it if she doesn't like the arrangements you've made (that they will benefit from - a nicely decorated place ffs!). Let's see how long Miss Uppity lasts when she has to pay rent AND find a landlord willing to let her have a dog!

Unsure33 · 18/10/2020 22:23

That’s sad . I agree about trying not to get involved . All she needed to do was buy a muzzle for a couple of days .

Not you fault if she can’t control the dog .

2389Champ · 18/10/2020 22:24

Wow! Thank you all so much for your replies - they’re truly appreciated and make me feel so much better. I’ve been spending the whole day going over and over what exchanges we’ve had and whether I could have handled it better? I think the sad thing is; I thought we had a great relationship until recently. When she announced in February she was getting a puppy, my son tried to talk her out of it, we also did and her own father too because DS job looked rocky even then, so was not the time to take on an animal with all the commitments that go with it. I even suggested as a compromise that maybe she wait until they were settled in the UK and think about it then but she ploughed ahead.

That’s a valid point about her possible MH too. Her reaction seems disproportionate and extremely defensive - particularly when it’s quite obvious what the issue is and how it should be sorted.

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DarkDarkNight · 18/10/2020 22:33

I’d be hoping she followed through with the threat and got on the plane.

eatsleepread · 18/10/2020 22:33

What a wee bitch.
Hope you're ok Thanks

PanamaPattie · 18/10/2020 22:33

She has already decided that your son and living in the UK is not for her. She probably doesn't want to work for a living and expected your son and you to provide for her - hence the responsibility of the big dog. I hope she leaves, she sounds like a diva. Lucky escape all round.

SlopesOff · 18/10/2020 22:34

Offer to drive her to the airport.

Poor dog needs a proper owner though.

IncandescentSilver · 18/10/2020 22:37

She sounds very manipulative and as though she has behavioural or personality problems.

You do realise that you have created a tenancy from which you will not be able to evict her should she choose to be awkward? Please tell me you have an actual tenancy agreement in place to protect yourself.

copperoliver · 18/10/2020 22:40

Good let her go back to Spain your son will be better off without her. I'd also call the rspca she needs some help in handling her dog before he hurts someone and technically it won't be the dogs fault but the dog will suffer. X

TrickyD · 18/10/2020 22:42

I don’t understand how she could have brought a dog from Spain without it being quarantined, or does it have a ‘pet passport’?

m00rfarm · 18/10/2020 22:44

Gosh - I would be worrying that she goes back and leaves the dog behind in your apartment ... (you have been far nicer than I would have been in this situation)

2389Champ · 18/10/2020 22:45

That’s a good point about the dog. We did suspect that it was the ultimate excuse for not getting a job. She won’t ever leave it on its own either. They haven’t gone out together as a couple since she’s had it “in case the dog gets stressed”
I do feel very sorry for the animal in this. It can’t be walked because it’s a liability therefore I think it’s becoming more neurotic and anxious which then translates into further aggression.

I suspect you’re correct about her thinking the UK isn’t for her and it’s more convenient to make out that she’s being forced to leave by me than admit it to my son. His one text to this evening to me was very frosty too so no doubt she’s convinced him how unkind I’ve been. However, I’m pretty sure once she (hopefully) carries out her threat, we can rebuild things.

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IAintentDead · 18/10/2020 22:46

My suspected scenario

Her It's not fair - your mum should cancel the decorator

Him - but it was booked before we came

Her - but we're here now, she should cancel

Him - No - you should control the dog

Her - you are being unreasonable

Him - No I'm not, the dog should be controlled and I'm not the only one who thinks so

Her - Your bloody mother, I bet it was her ....

Him - Doesn't matter who it was - they're right - the dog should be under control.

Her - I knew it. storms off and sends texts to you

Or something vaguely on those lines

For what it's worth - It'll be a good thing if she goes and takes it with her and your son will agree one day (maybe not straight away.

As an aside
My son once had a go at me telling me it was my fault he and his gf had had their biggest row ever and it was my fault.

What
Well she was upset at something I had said and he had stuck up for me and said I wasn't being unreasonable ... and that's when the row started

Elieza · 18/10/2020 22:47

If she doesn’t move to Spain before Brexit will they let her take the dog as we will no longer be part of Europe....

Let’s hope she goes soon, all problems solved!

Doodar · 18/10/2020 22:48

She’s looking for an excuse to leave and you’re getting the blame.

FirefighterA24 · 18/10/2020 22:50

Tell her she can move out of your house with the dog and take her shitty ungrateful attitude with her.

AlwaysCheddar · 18/10/2020 22:51

Has she gone yet? Good riddance.

incognitomum · 18/10/2020 22:55

Wow Shock she's crazy. DS will be well rid.

2389Champ · 18/10/2020 22:56

Yes, the dog does have a pet passport - that’s one thing she did do right!

And no, I haven’t got a tenancy agreement. :s. Hopefully, it sounds like she is so determined to return to Spain there won’t be any issues, but that’s a very good point.

I guess if she truly cared for my son and wanted to stay she would have taken on board the problems with the dog and made more effort to train it to be socially acceptable. He has even begged her to think about changing her methods but she has been totally inflexible so she’s really chosen it over him.

Incidentally, neither myself or DH have even had an apology about the bite. If it was my dog I would have been mortified but I suppose she thinks we brought it on ourselves by visiting.

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BrummyMum1 · 18/10/2020 22:56

You’ve let her have a big nasty dog in your rental and she’s giving you shit for it?! You haven’t handled anything badly but I’d step back and let the relationship fizzle out. If you say anything or interfere it might push them closer together.

Longdistance · 18/10/2020 22:57

‘Either the dog’s behaviour is sorted ASAP or you move out. I’m not asking you, I’m fucking telling you’. Harsh? Blush

Sarahsah4r4 · 18/10/2020 22:58

the function of the dog is to intimidate and control people and this gives her a sense of power & control, also she indulges herself by indulging the dog.
She sounds volatile & dysfunctional, look at that 'DARVO' maneuver... spinning it as your fault when she's behaving like a box of frogs.

Sunnydaysstillhere · 18/10/2020 23:00

A muzzle sounds a good idea.
Maybe 2 tbh...

MrDarcysMa · 18/10/2020 23:01

Wave her off and hope she doesn't come back

lAmuseMyseIf · 18/10/2020 23:01

Surely Brexit at the end of December solves it anyway? Unless she is dual nationality or he intends marrying her, how will she have the right to reside? Not sure 4 months just being here will cut it without a UK work contract/visa?