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Sex with my boyfriend - what is going on?!?

324 replies

CarolBains · 05/09/2020 20:16

Boyfriend of 8 months. He’s 39, I’m 34. The first time we had sex it was great, then it wasn’t. No honeymoon, can’t keep our hands off eachother period. I always initiate it. We can go weeks without having sex, I’ve brought this up and he makes an effort. I don’t want him to make an effort, I want him to want it! To want me!

I always give him oral sex and touch him, he’s never returned the favour, never gone down on me, only once touched me with his fingers for like 20 seconds.

He can’t come from sex, he has to mastubate vigorously for agesssss or I do it for agesssss,
This feels rubbish at times when I put all this work in, it kills my arms! And he doesn’t so much as return the favour and I’m just left.

When we do this he holds his body really tense (it looks painful) and looks away from me or closes his eyes (I’d be nice if he was looking at me! Is he thinking of someone else?). He’s said before his insides have hurt - I’m not surprised, he’s so strained and ridged.

Take this morning, laid in bed, I initiate it by touching him, I use my mouth, use my hands 20 mins later he takes over, I touch myself abit, really hoping he’ll touch me - nope. He’s not even looking at me, his staring up at the ceiling, ridged, mastubating vigorously - he cums. That’s it. I’m horny and actually went in the bathroom and pleased myself.

Reading around it I think he has delayed ejaculation and can’t cum from sex, it’s rubbish but I can understand and this could be why he doesn’t initiate it, maybe he’s embarrassed.
But then I thought men were visual (sorry if I’m stereotyping!) so why doesn’t he look at me when he’s doing it? Or touch me? Like wouldn’t it be better to be having sex with me and seeing me than touching himself and looking away - Do I just not do it for him? Is he gay? Is that why he doesn’t go down on me, touch me or look at me?

I’ve joked about it and he’s said I like fanny too much - lovely choice of words - but seriously could have fooled me!

What is going on? Any thoughts? How would you even bring this up? Like, I don’t want to tell someone to look at me or have sex with me I want him to want that and he doesn’t?!

OP posts:
MrsWooster · 05/09/2020 20:42

Porn. Dump him

Branleuse · 05/09/2020 20:42

shit at sex

Honeyroar · 05/09/2020 20:44

It’s sounds absolutely dreadful and I’d be bloody telling him so too!

Lockdownseperation · 05/09/2020 20:44

@AnneLovesGilbert

What is going on? Does it really matter? It sounds beyond shit. Have you had many relationships before? This isn’t normal or okay.

What’s so good about the rest of it that you’re hanging around? Life is way too short for crap sex.

This. He doesn’t care if you enjoy sex, it’s all about him.
DrinkFeckArseGirls · 05/09/2020 20:46

I came to join the chorus - porn. 8 months? After one night like that I’d be off.

SoulofanAggron · 05/09/2020 20:46

I always give him oral sex and touch him, he’s never returned the favour, never gone down on me, only once touched me with his fingers for like 20 seconds. He can’t come from sex, he has to mastubate vigorously for agesssss or I do it for agesssss

Oh dear OP. I had one like this. No thought that he should please me. And another that would make me suck him off for 45 mins for the sake of it.

What you have to realize is there is less chance of good sex from men as those you date get older. I'm 43 and know statistically that by age 50, 50% of men have ED. I've already experienced a lot.

It might seem a long time but it's not. You have to seize the day while the men you can date are capable of giving you decent sex. Make hay while the sun shines. Grab the good sex with both hands. Smile

On to the next ASAP. xx

Galaxxy · 05/09/2020 20:47

Ugh end it. Not worth your sex life being shit forever because of he's warped himself with porn. Crap shag and inconsiderate lover to boot. Bin him off and bluntly tell him exactly why.

KatDubs261 · 05/09/2020 20:48

Oh dump him. Sorry.

SoulofanAggron · 05/09/2020 20:48

I mean, I've already experienced a lot of ED and crap sex from men of all different ages over the years, not just guys in their 40s etc.

Not prepared to put up with any more than I have to. The occasional erection fail is normal, but not this sort of thing.

CodenameVillanelle · 05/09/2020 20:50

What's going on is that he's shit at sex. DTMFA

TheChampagneGalop · 05/09/2020 20:51

I always give him oral sex and touch him, he’s never returned the favour, never gone down on me, only once touched me with his fingers for like 20 seconds.

I would never ever accept this. Dump him.

AudTheDeepMinded · 05/09/2020 20:51

You poor poor lass, for goodness sake chuck this waste of space and find a decent specimen.

wildcherries · 05/09/2020 20:52

always give him oral sex and touch him, he’s never returned the favour, never gone down on me, only once touched me with his fingers for like 20 seconds.

I got to this and thought 'fuck that, why are you there?'

Then it got worse. Life is absolutely too short for this crap. Don't settle for shit sex.

ElspethFlashman · 05/09/2020 20:53

Porn Porn Porn Porn.

And it doesn't get better.

There is literally no point to being with this bloke, none whatsoever.

Leave him off to his death grip and find someone who actually gets off on real women.

JoanJosephJim · 05/09/2020 20:54

Why are you still with him. This is shit.

There is nothing more wonderful than being desired. At 8 months in if this is your life why are you accepting of this? I have been with Dh for 24 years, he still rips my clothes off.

Bluntness100 · 05/09/2020 20:54

For everyone shouting porn, you’re forgetting two things. He doesn’t look r her and he doesn’t touch her, in fact he shuts his eyes or looks away,

So it’s not death grip, it’s something else. It might be porn. But it sure as hell isnt straight porn. Something else is floating his boat.

SoulofanAggron · 05/09/2020 20:56

Porn he’d at least look at you. The fact he can’t, means he’s thinking about something else. Sorry op. He’s gay.

@Bluntness100 I think part of what people are saying is when he closes his eyes he is thinking of something else- the porn images, actresses etc, stuff that might be more extreme than what he's doing with OP. I certainly have been known to to think of someone else during sex. And it wasn't usually a woman. :)

Tappering · 05/09/2020 20:56

Porn death grip.

Dump - this won't get better.

Bunnymumy · 05/09/2020 20:56

Just to add, I'd show a man what I liked. And how to work it. They arent shy about telling you what they want. If they don't give, they don't receive, end of.

WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 05/09/2020 20:56

Definitely porn addled
But even worse, utterly selfish. Bin.

CarolBains · 05/09/2020 20:56

Wow! You’ve literally all said the same thing. My god I feel naive and a little sad!
I guess I love him! There’s been other issues, like I’ve been totally open and honest about wanting a relationship with someone who wants a family like I do but he doesn’t know if he wants that. Seems his last relationship messed him up and he’s now going to counselling to work though that stuff - this seems pretty huge that he’s doing this for me and paying for this.
He’s also backed out of buying a one bedroomed house in view of us moving in together next year. He’s kind and lovely and makes me happy - just not in bed.

The death grip seems spot on. I want to say the porn is spot on too but if he was so into porn I feel like this would show more in the bedroom - yet the sex is a bit boring - missionary/me on top. I remember sending him a link to love honey - vibrators/underwear, he totally ignored this!
He has said he’d like to film me giving him oral sex (quite the surprise). In the back of my head I think I’m worried he’s gay and maybe he doesn’t even know if he is. My god I don’t know what to do at all

OP posts:
IWantT0BreakFree · 05/09/2020 20:57

Porn he’d at least look at you. The fact he can’t, means he’s thinking about something else.

He's thinking about porn. This really couldn't be more of a classic case of porn addiction. There is really no evidence to suggest he is gay, not in the OP anyway. When men become addicted to porn, they become desensitised to real life sex. He's probably got very specific types of porn that he watches obsessively and this will be what he is thinking about. The furious masturbation and inability to ejaculate any other way is a clear sign of "death grip" whereby a man masturbates (obsessively, to porn) with a very firm grip and "trains" his body to respond only to that sensation.

NTHEN · 05/09/2020 20:57

I came to say death grip, too.

It's a thing.

I once dated somebody exactly how you describe your boyfriend. Didn't touch me down below, no oral sex, sod all. He managed to ejaculate from penetration once out of the 5-6 times we had sex.

Suffice to say the 'relationship' was over within about 8 weeks, not just because of the sex but it would have become problematic for me before too long.

In order to improve things (ejaculation wise) he needs to abstain from porn and masturbating.

I wouldn't stick around OP. These men have an unrealistic view of sex thanks to the shite they watch.

HappyBdayWilson · 05/09/2020 20:59

This sounds awful, dump him! I agree with all the PPs that this sounds like a porn addiction.

Reclinehard · 05/09/2020 21:01

But you could find someone else who would want to move in with you, shag you properly and start a family. Why waste time with this guy?