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Why do you avoid that other mum?

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LouLouLouL · 04/09/2020 04:27

I feel so exhausted trying to form friendships with the other mums at school.

The other mums seem nice enough but as I approach I almost feel like they’re bracing themselves. We’ll have a brief chat about nothing much and their eyes will be looking for the escape route.

Ah! Another mum who they’ll need to chat to and off they go. Sometimes letting me tag along but then they have this wonderfully long and fluid conversation, also about nothing much.

I think I’m blustery (because I have three young children) but happy go lucky. I like being a mum and enjoy my children. Don’t chat about my kids or parenting too much though.

Sometimes I wonder if I need to like being a mum less and resent my children more to be more relatable.

Is there a mum that you think seems perfectly nice and receptive but you just have zero interest in chatting to her?

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Anordinarymum · 05/09/2020 05:14

When my oldest started nursery I was 37. Previous to this I had always worked and my peer group all had their babies in their twenties, so when he started nursery I knew no-one even though the school was local..

I had two other babies. One was 18 months and the new baby was 12 days old.

I saw the other mums in their little friendship groups. The young ones tended to migrate to one another and of the others they all seemed to know each other.

It's nice to be able to relate to someone about bringing children up. You can feel isolated even though you are busy.
Some mums would be friendly and ask questions and then blank you.
I found going into the playground to be awkward at times especially when someone who had said hello looked the other way.

Eventually I accepted the territory for the want of a better word and relaxed a bit.
When my children made friends I would talk to their mums and did make friends but not anything close.
One mum went out of her way to be friendly because my son was pals with her little boy. We would walk home together after school. We got on well. We were friendly for a while - you know, we would sit together at school performances, save seats and that sort of thing. I thought she was OK I really did, and then one day I came into the playground and she was walking towards me. I said 'Hi' and she totally blanked me.
I thought she had not seen me.
Next time saw her she looked straight through me.
She stopped speaking to me completely. I did not know why. Then I saw she had got in with a group of other mums so I was ditched:)

Then one day when we were all queueing outside nursery for our children she came up to me and started talking as if nothing had happened. this is after six months of total blanking. I looked at her -the barmy bitch - and ignored her.

Like I say these are parents of children at the same school, and not a friendship group. You live and learn.

I met other mums who were fine, but most of us were busy and worked so we did not have time for the cliqueyness and the silly posturing.

There was one other time when I made a huge mistake. I was on friendly terms with another mum. I thought she was lovely. She had two children, and the youngest was the same age as my youngest. She was really pretty and always nicely dressed.

One day walking into the playground I saw her and she looked very pregnant. I had no idea. I asked her if she was, which was a common question with mums of babies.
She said 'no I am not', so I apologised profusely. Oh what a stupid thing to ask
After that she ignored me and when I came into the playground to collect my children she was always with a group of mums who stared.
I am glad those days are over

Pluckedpencil · 05/09/2020 05:17

When I was a lonely first time sahm in a new country, I found the park a much better place to make friends. Lots of people stood around with time on their hands while kids played. I just chatted to whoever was playing with ds at the time - grandmas, grandads, mums, dads. I got to know half the village in this way and slowly built a relationship with two of my best friends. Find a time the park is busy, usually the half hour after school. Much better than a rushed encounter at the school gate.

UnpaintedPaint · 05/09/2020 05:26

People are weird, I thought I was great friends with a group of mums at playgroup, I am a bit older I guess, and a bit fatter.

I was dropped, and it hurt a lot. We’d spent so much time together, often going out 4 times a week to playgroups or meeting at a play area.

Nursery started, they had new babies, and all met up, but I was never asked to join them for coffee, that was it.

To be honest, a lot of them fall out completely with each other from time to time, which never fails to amaze me.

If I like people, that’s it really, I don’t really fall out with anyone, I think you have to accept foibles, and most people have quirks, and you can usually accept these in friendships and move on, still being friends.

But not these people.

Sourdo · 05/09/2020 05:28

There's one mum I really like at school, who has a heart of gold, but is very, very serious and rarely smiles. She's anxious and talks at a millions miles an hour and I feel absolutely and completely exhausted after 5 minutes in her company. I always feel sorry for her as I can see other mums feel the same after being in her company. She seems to latch on to me because I give her more time than the others. I really like her in many ways, she is just far too intense.

Maranello4 · 05/09/2020 06:50

I think any school gates chat is always going to be quick as I’m concentrating on picking up my child. It’s not that I wouldn’t speak to you - you sound fun! It’s more that I find school pick up generally quite stressful and want to get in and out as soon as I can.

I’ve had some friendships with the school mums and tbh I’ve found that they’re hugely cliquey and slag each other off about really hurtful things. As soon as I saw them doing this I made a judgement call that I’d be better off spending the little time I have with other people.

Russellbrandshair · 05/09/2020 08:51

Well, I’d argue that people who believe in this finite friend quota aren’t very nice. To me that’s an inherently hostile trait. Being nice costs nothing

Again- there you go twisting what people have actually said. You make it sound like people are part of a "finite friend quota" cult. Its not something people go around saying to themselves for goodness sake, its merely a practical consideration that at the school gate, yes, I'll happily be friendly, yes, I'll smile and make conversation but NO, I dont have the bloody time to stand there longer than literally one minute because I have time commitments to keep and I have to pick my child up and go. I cannot just swan in late to work every morning because I've been "extending my friendship group"- its just not going to happen, but according to you, that makes me a giant arsehole. Yet, I bet if I was consistently late to work every day I'd be an arsehole for that too wouldnt I? so I cant really win here it seems.

"I'm alright jack" is a selfish attitude that has nothing to do with harassed and stressed working mothers who are desperately trying to keep all their spinning plates in the air. Putting extra pressure on people to do what YOU feel is appropriate regardless of how inconvenient it is for their actual life is actually extremely arseholish and selfish in my opinion.

FortunesFave · 05/09/2020 09:10

I've always been very reserved. People had to literally pursue me or I'd have nothing to do with anyone!

As I've got older and less self conscious, it's much better. I do now try to actively engage and find people very receptive.

But I'm not asking for much...women of 45 plus generally lead very busy lives...kids, work, ageing parents, hobbies...I don't want more than the odd wine or a craft lesson together!

That's fine to me. My days of pubs, getting drunk or shopping with mates are over for now. Maybe they'll return when I'm 65!

rainwaterflow · 05/09/2020 09:21

Being nice costs nothing.

Being nice =/= actively befriending every random stranger you come across.

Your level of forced niceness certainly does cost a great deal in terms of time and emotional energy.

The “I’m alright Jack” mentality is one of my least favourite things about British culture
I’m not British, and realistically being too busy to become best friends with everyone you meet by still being very nice and friendly to everyone is not “I’m alright Jack.”

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 05/09/2020 10:26

@rainwaterflow

Being nice costs nothing.

Being nice =/= actively befriending every random stranger you come across.

Your level of forced niceness certainly does cost a great deal in terms of time and emotional energy.

The “I’m alright Jack” mentality is one of my least favourite things about British culture
I’m not British, and realistically being too busy to become best friends with everyone you meet by still being very nice and friendly to everyone is not “I’m alright Jack.”

I agree. "I'm alright jack" is taking what you want for yourself, regardless of anyone else's needs.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with people picking kids up from school and having to rush off to work. What in the actual fck???

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