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DH had sex with a prostitute

289 replies

TurkeyTrot · 21/08/2020 22:20

He seems to think that because he told me, apologized and didn't enjoy it much, it is somehow ok.
I think he's a massive twat and we need to split, but the logistics are complicated, as in we would need to give up the family home and decide where the DC (3 teenagers) would live and who with.
They don't know about it and DH doesn't want to separate.
WWYD if your DH told you that?
Would you split? Would you tell the teens why, so they didn't think you split for no reason?

OP posts:
Comtesse · 22/08/2020 18:17

@bingbong1970 seriously? Seems more like an attempt to hurt the OP rather than he just loves her SO much.

PoppySeedSaid · 22/08/2020 18:23

I'd be disgusted by this. But the context would also matter for me. Did he plan this behind your back, make arrangements to meet her, lie to you about where he was and what he did?

Or was it a drunk lap dance on a stag night that provided an 'extra' service?

I don't agree with either but the context might help make it easier as to whether you stay or go?

Heffalooomia · 22/08/2020 18:24

@bingbong1970

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.
Looks like your husband has found the thread OP:(
Scorpiowoman80 · 22/08/2020 18:25

No I definitely couldn’t forgive him, especially the fact he paid to have sex with another woman! Prostitution is certainly a horrible thing for the woman, it’s illegal here there’s very rarely any proper precautions in place and most of them have been abused/on drugs/runaways.

I feel for you OP, did he use protection? I’d tell the kids he was unfaithful but leave out the prostitute part; I wouldn’t want to know if my dad did that! Think about yourself please, this may not be the first time he’s used them.

firecracker69 · 22/08/2020 18:38

I am shocked that a few people have suggested that this doesn't need to be the end of the relationship. Are you fucking joking? The line has been well and truly crossed. No going back after this sleazy deceit. He didn't enjoy it much..... what a wanky excuse. Hope you get rid.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 22/08/2020 18:48

@Justaboy

No one has a right to sex. The end.

Yes agreed, no argument there. Full stop..

However lets change that to;

One has an "expectation" of sex?

I think that when someone marries and that implies sexual fidelity then there is an expectation of sex on both male and female sides.

Now a few weeks back met a woman who is shock horror a sex worker!.

Nope!, wasnt engaging her for her services, this was at a social business event meeting!

In the course of an intresting chat shes 36 years old no longer married has a decent job and as a part time acticvity does sex work. She by her own admission does it for the money around 150 quid an hour and has more work on the go than she can handle. I asked her what men did she see and she said mainly from around 40 to as old as men in their seventies and has known a few in their Eighites but as long as their clean and treat her well then shes no objection to that, the only men she didnt like seeing were asian ones who in her words had very little respect for women.

She then said that she does know a few other women in that line of work who mainly saw young single men but in the main most of her
clients were married she a said around 80 odd percent of them claimed to be married! She also said that she had a few widowers men who were older who liked being close to a woman but for various reasons it didnt happen for them anymore.

She futher said that most all of the married men never or very rareley got sex at home no matter what they did or didnt do, it seemed it had once been alright but over time had then dried up. Yes of course they could use their right hand but it wasnt the same as physcially being with a woman that thats the thing that they most missed, she said that some men were more than happy just to cuddle her and the actual sex was incidential.

I did ask her what did she think of the woman at home and she said it wasnt a concern of hers and whilst there were men who wanted but didnt get then thats was just the way it is. She went further to say that she thought if they did get what they wanted then she'd have very few customers. She was also under the impression that most of them just wanted the sex they werent getting, they didnt what to break up the family home they saw what she could provide as a substitute.

I asked her how she coped with it and she said most of the time very well as she liked sex and being paid for something she liked, wasnt it seemed a bad thing to her, and when or if she didnt like what she was doing then she'd stop. She did say that some men were a bit abusive and some demanded condomless sex but she weeded them out very early on, bareback sex wasnt the thing that she was offering and none of her acquanitcies would do it either thoiugh it did seem there were some girls from eastern europe who would or were forced into that and they were dobbed into the police on odd occasion.

So thats that, what we do about it i don't know but i suspect it will carry on and on..

Would you be as blasé about your attitude to hiring a woman’s body if it was your daughter’s body that was being hired?

If you’d be at all uncomfortable with your daughter being a sex worker (assuming she was an adult at the time) you’re a hypocrite.

SoulofanAggron · 22/08/2020 19:04

One has an "expectation" of sex?

@Justaboy That's too much like I had a partner once who said 'I deserve it.' It doesn't work that way. Or men who tell their wife that they're their wife so it's their duty to do it. If that were the case marital rape wouldn't be a thing.

She futher said that most all of the married men never or very rareley got sex at home

They are going to say that to make themselves look better though. Same as they always say that to women they're trying to use for sex.

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

@bingbong1970 If he cared about OP deeply Envy he wouldn'tve done it. And no, it's not unavoidable/that difficult. Plenty of men manage to keep it in their trousers.

If you’d be at all uncomfortable with your daughter being a sex worker (assuming she was an adult at the time) you’re a hypocrite.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken Even if someone is so 'right on' they said they'd be fine with their daughter being a sex worker if that's what she 'chose' to do, no-one would have it as their dream for their children.

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/08/2020 19:08

@bingbong1970

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.
Well don't you just know fuck all about evolutionary psychology. Women are hard-wired to fuck outside relationships when they're ovulating. Even female bluebirds, it's that hard-wired. I've managed to ovulate about 150 time since marrying DH and not fucked anyone else.

If you can't be monogamous, don't be. Just be honest about it so your wife can bluebird her way through the populace as well. And don't buy consent it's disgusting.

Justaboy may have the extensive experience of talking to one woman for one evening. I've worked with hundreds over decades (and am not a prospective customer so they don't bullshit me) in several countries. It is shit, they are abused often, they don't enjoy it and it's really fucking dangerous. PTSD higher than Vietnam vets. Except for the one chatting to Just who might not be entirely representative.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 22/08/2020 19:11

@SoulofanAggron

One has an "expectation" of sex?

@Justaboy That's too much like I had a partner once who said 'I deserve it.' It doesn't work that way. Or men who tell their wife that they're their wife so it's their duty to do it. If that were the case marital rape wouldn't be a thing.

She futher said that most all of the married men never or very rareley got sex at home

They are going to say that to make themselves look better though. Same as they always say that to women they're trying to use for sex.

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

@bingbong1970 If he cared about OP deeply Envy he wouldn'tve done it. And no, it's not unavoidable/that difficult. Plenty of men manage to keep it in their trousers.

If you’d be at all uncomfortable with your daughter being a sex worker (assuming she was an adult at the time) you’re a hypocrite.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken Even if someone is so 'right on' they said they'd be fine with their daughter being a sex worker if that's what she 'chose' to do, no-one would have it as their dream for their children.

You’re arguing with the wrong person here. I made that point to make it as simple for Justaboy to understand and bring home how sex workers are someone’s child/ human beings.
dollypops15 · 22/08/2020 19:16

I would.leave him. I would also tell me teengers exactly why I was leaving him. That he is dirty and pathetic and pays for sex.

Tistheseason17 · 22/08/2020 19:18
Flowers Whatever you do has to be right for you, not Mumsnet posters. But FWIW I'd end it too. Sorry.
VacMan · 22/08/2020 19:20

My reaction would be to go nuclear.

I'd tell all of our families and make a holy show of him. Chop all his clothes up then kick the fucker out.

Then I'd be heartbroken and wish it never happened. But at my age I've been through worse, I'd get back up and crack on with my life.

DBML · 22/08/2020 19:28

I’m not sure why op’s husband paid for a prostitute, but I have mixed feelings.

On the one hand, if I found out DH cheated on me full stop, he’d be gone. Prostitute or affair.

On the other hand, if DH refused to have sex with me on a regular basis (let’s say he kept sex for birthdays and occasions), I’d be tempted to stray myself.

I married my husband and I promised to forsake all others, but rightly or wrongly, at that point I expected that he would take care of my sexual needs.

If a relationship became sexless, a conversation would need to be had...either we separate or I am allowed to go outside the marriage. I’m not sure what’s happened in the op’s case, but it could be that the husband skipped this oh so vital step.

2bazookas · 22/08/2020 19:45

@roxfox

I'd be off. If he's admitting it it's probably because it's become a problem and he's been doing it for a while......
Or he's got an STD and the clinic told him his wife will need testing. But he hasn't the balls to admit that, so he's left her to work it out for herself .

Saying that he didn't really enjoy sex with a prostitute is supposed to reassure her/ sugar coat it.

GilbertMarkham · 22/08/2020 20:02

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

Grin

Oh my ..

Someone has swallowed the "it's natural fit men to cheat but not women" line hook, line and sinker.

Hate to break it to you but it's natural for women to cheat too .. as a poster above said especially around ovulation.

Women are hard wired to find the most reliable and best provider/mate they can secure but to cheat with higher status males who have "stronger genes" in many ways. That's why it is estimated that s significant proportion of children are not gathered by the man who thinks he's their father.

There are all sorts of physical things that illustrate this eg the phenomenon of sperm competition .. when sperm from different men fight it out to fertilise eggs inside women, the shape if the head of the penis (with the edge/groove around the glans to pull out semen already in a woman) etc etc.

When honest stats are gained about infidelity women come out just below men in terms of cheating in monogamous relationships.

Just because men have had the power to brazenly cheat and get away with it, whereas women's cheating mostly had to be sneaky in order not to lose resources (or their lives in extreme cases) doesn't mean it's more natural.

GilbertMarkham · 22/08/2020 20:04

the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

The fact that he did it at all, means he doesnt.

His dick came ahead of fidelity, respect, decency etc.

GilbertMarkham · 22/08/2020 20:07

Justaboy may have the extensive experience of talking to one woman for one evening. I've worked with hundreds over decades (and am not a prospective customer so they don't bullshit me) in several countries. It is shit, they are abused often, they don't enjoy it and it's really fucking dangerous. PTSD higher than Vietnam vets. Except for the one chatting to Just who might not be entirely representative.

Some poster always knows a "happy hooker".

Loves the sex, it's a bonus getting paid for it! Hmm

GilbertMarkham · 22/08/2020 20:08

..because he told me .. didn't enjoy it much

Bet he enjoyed it more than the prostitute he fucked.

GilbertMarkham · 22/08/2020 20:14

Sorry I forgot to add that given the not hugely disparate propensity to cheat among males and females (not withstanding the much greater unpaid opportunities women tend to have for no strings sex) .. what's significant is that op has not cheated .. he has. She has acted like a decent person with integrity whereas had cheated on her, broken their marriage vows .. and used a prostitute to boot.

He's also either gaslighting op, or appears to think it's no big deal, as well.

bingbong1970 · 22/08/2020 20:22

MrsTerryPratchett

Well don't you just know fuck all about evolutionary psychology. Women are hard-wired to fuck outside relationships when they're ovulating. Even female bluebirds, it's that hard-wired. I've managed to ovulate about 150 time since marrying DH and not fucked anyone else.

If you can't be monogamous, don't be. Just be honest about it so your wife can bluebird her way through the populace as well. And don't buy consent it's disgusting.

No, I don't know much about the evolutionary psychology of women and Bluebirds. I didn't know that ladies were hard wired in that way, I just thought they got more short tempered with me than usual. I was only trying to be nice to the op. Congratulations on your fourteen and a half years of marriage.

DragonPie · 22/08/2020 20:31

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ok then. Hmm

bingbong1970 · 22/08/2020 20:44

@GilbertMarkham

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply. Grin

Oh my ..

Someone has swallowed the "it's natural fit men to cheat but not women" line hook, line and sinker.

Hate to break it to you but it's natural for women to cheat too .. as a poster above said especially around ovulation.

Women are hard wired to find the most reliable and best provider/mate they can secure but to cheat with higher status males who have "stronger genes" in many ways. That's why it is estimated that s significant proportion of children are not gathered by the man who thinks he's their father.

There are all sorts of physical things that illustrate this eg the phenomenon of sperm competition .. when sperm from different men fight it out to fertilise eggs inside women, the shape if the head of the penis (with the edge/groove around the glans to pull out semen already in a woman) etc etc.

When honest stats are gained about infidelity women come out just below men in terms of cheating in monogamous relationships.

Just because men have had the power to brazenly cheat and get away with it, whereas women's cheating mostly had to be sneaky in order not to lose resources (or their lives in extreme cases) doesn't mean it's more natural.

I haven't swallowed anything but was just speaking from personal experience. I'm not sure I quite said that it's natural for men to cheat but not for women so I politely disagree with your accusation of naivety on my part. I'm learning a lot this evening about various bits and pieces and goings on, so thanks for that.
YouJustDoYou · 22/08/2020 20:54

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply

😂😂😂😂😂😂

bingbong1970 · 22/08/2020 20:54

@GilbertMarkham

the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply.

The fact that he did it at all, means he doesnt.

His dick came ahead of fidelity, respect, decency etc.

My opinion is that a man is capable of loving a woman, and do stuff with a sex worker without it meaning he doesn't love her.
backseatcookers · 22/08/2020 21:04

Men find it really difficult to be monogamous due to being wired up to spread their dna. For what it's worth, the fact he told you suggests to me he cares about you deeply

Hahahahahaha good one.

Imagine actually thinking this was true.

What a lovely bloke telling his wife he thinks he has a right to fuck women, sees it as a need not a want and believes that consent can be bought. Telling her, by his actions, women are commodities and receptacles for men. Objects. For the male gaze.

He's gross and he's a misogynist. He's also part of a sex trade in which the vast majority of women are vulnerable including trafficked.

Loves her deeply yeah? Raise your bar.