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Last week I told DH I want a divorce

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:25

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

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Manolin · 16/08/2020 19:27

How old are you?

theworldhasfallenoutmybottom · 16/08/2020 19:29

Following with interest

RB68 · 16/08/2020 19:33

you can divorce even if he says no aftr 5 yrs

Twizbe · 16/08/2020 19:34

You can divorce him without his agreement. It's a long process though. You'd have to leave him and officially separate. After 5 years you can apply for a divorce and he can't contest it.

It's worth doing the counselling I suppose, but I'd start making your plans to leave

StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:47

I’m early 40s. Children are 7 (twins). He’s early 50s.

I’m making plans. Practically haunting RightMove 😂

I’m just feel nothing. I’m numb.

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Arrivederla · 16/08/2020 20:20

He doesn't get to tell you that you can't divorce. See a solicitor and start looking ahead to a fantastic future with your dc and without your dh.

pointythings · 16/08/2020 20:34

Ultimately he can't say no, especially if the government finally brings in no fault divorce. If that doesn't happen, you can move out and after 5 years, that's it. You don't have to stay in the marriage if you aren't happy.

trevorandsimon · 16/08/2020 23:16

Same situation here but haven't yet told him, very scared about it.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/08/2020 23:20

Every time he says no, tell him yes, I am divorcing you. Stop letting think you may change your mind.

Wondersense · 16/08/2020 23:38

If you are this certain, then he better get used to it fast because there is no relationship left here. He'll have to accept it. Does he really fancy holding someone emotionally hostage? Someone that doesn't want them?

StuckInPollyannaMode · 17/08/2020 06:10

I like the suggestion of telling him yes every time he says no!

I need to go see a solicitor, don’t I? Or figure out what I want. Even though we don’t need them involved really, as long as he’s a gentleman. Which he is.

I think his head is just buried so far in the sand he can’t see it. Even his mother has been worried for the past couple of years, for heavens sake.

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category12 · 17/08/2020 06:18

You don't need him to agree to you splitting up, or a divorce. It only takes one person to end a relationship.

You start proceedings, you leave, you take control. It's no point repeating you want to divorce if you stay in the relationship and don't do anything about it.

category12 · 17/08/2020 06:21

I mean, he can contest the divorce and drag it out, but he can't make you stay in the relationship.

chatterbugmegastar · 17/08/2020 06:24

Just take the children and leave. Formalise the separation. Start the process. He can't stop any of that.

KatherineJaneway · 17/08/2020 06:28

He cannot dictate that your relationship will continue. You can end the relationship and divorce him without any agreement from him. However you need to seek legal advice and realise you are now on your own in divorcing him. Don't expect him to become reasonable once you start proceedings as he will 'know you are serious'.

He can keep saying no, I've known of people who simply would not engage in divorce proceedings meaning the other half had to wait 5 years.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 17/08/2020 09:21

I thought all the advice was to not leave the marital home?

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category12 · 17/08/2020 12:22

Leave the relationship, not the house necessarily. Move into separate rooms, live independently of him, start detangling finances, start divorce proceedings.

Your first step is getting legal advice. It's generally not advised for you to leave, no, but in some cases it's the way forward.

31133004Taff · 17/08/2020 12:30

Just take the children and leave.

Um. No. Divorce involves everyone. The children also have a view on how your needs to be managed in consideration of their need.

I’m sorry that your relationship with you husband has failed. Has his relationship with the children failed also? You say in your op that he is a ‘good father’.

minnieok · 17/08/2020 12:54

You don't need a solicitor at this stage (or at all if you can come to an agreement on finances, saves a fortune). Would he attend a counselling session, they can be useful in ensuring an amicable split.

WeakandWobbly · 17/08/2020 12:57

Following with interest

WitsEnding · 17/08/2020 13:12

He can’t say no, just see a solicitor then start proceedings.

Tell friends, family and children that the relationship has broken down and the marriage has failed. Don’t let him pretend it isn’t happening.

ThatsYouThatIs · 17/08/2020 13:42

I'm in a similar position but further down the line. Until he received the divorce petition, STBXH didn't believe I would go through with it.

Stay in the house if you can and go see a solicitor to start the divorce process rolling. Once he realises you are serious he will have to face up to reality. Be prepared for him to become awkward, and even hostile as you go through the process. Very few couples manage a truly amicable divorce, especially where one party feels they have been forced into the situation by the other.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 17/08/2020 15:52

He’s got a good relationship with the children. But I do 95% of all childcare and children related stuff.

We don’t have a spare room, unless I put the children back into the same room. Which I don’t think would go down terribly well.

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KatherineJaneway · 17/08/2020 16:00

Leave the relationship, not the house necessarily.

This ^^

You need good legal advice as to how best to proceed for your circumstances.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 17/08/2020 16:02

Yes, he will see a counsellor. The irony is I’ve been begging him for months to see someone. Now all of a sudden he will.

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