Is it ever right to hit a woman

[Meadow1203]

Just this really. My ex partner is adamant that if a woman hits or slaps a man then it is ok for him to retaliate. He is 6 4 and a very strong man, just a slap would be potentially dangerous. He said he has always advised his daughters never to hit a man as they should expect to be hit back. I am not condoning violence btw, just interested in views on this.

As a woman I'd say it's never 'Right' for anyone to hit another person, BUT if it's socially acceptable for women to hit men, why can a man not hit a woman?
Everyone wants equal rights until it's not in their favour.

@LexMitior

Well why isn’t your instinct to actually report a crime rather than commit one yourself?

Do you think anything would be done? Do you think the police would be at all interested? If you can tell me that, yes, absolutely, they would attend, investigate and prosecute then ok, but you and I both know absolutely nothing would be done.

It's not ok for women to hit men just because they can and they know no one will do anything.

Look at that YouTube clip from earlier. Woman slaps man, man slaps her back about 50 men rush over and attack him. Do you think that's ok? He didn't hit them so why can they hit him?

Some people are just bullies and need a taste of their own medicine.

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras

You and I going to have to disagree. Your way is that of the vigilante. You would do better to set a better example than justify instances why you are allowed to hit someone.

The point I have made to you is what you have done is just as bad, if not a little worse than the example you gave where a woman strikes your son.

Besides, I don’t think women are all flowers, but your son should hang out with a better class of woman than deal with this crap. It’s not like it’s hard decision to make.

Nobody should hit anyone else. A woman should not hit a man expecting that he won't hit her back because she's a woman.

People need to keep their hands to themselves.

Equal rights does not mean equality of strength or equality of impact.

What kind of pub bollocks is that. Sensible people treat each other equally. If someone abuses you, report them to the police. If a woman hit me and then claimed that she was entitled then I want that stuff sorted out with the authorities, not risk a criminal record and a massive loss of dignity plus any other risk of injury in responding to her. Everyone here seems to assume fighting back sorts it. That’s not true.

@Likefootball

Under no circumstances whatsoever should a man strike a woman.

Not even self defence or to defend another person...i.e. a vulnerable adult or child

This isn't something you can say a blanket no to...s it does you haven't considered so the potential circumstances.

If a woman hit me and then claimed that she was entitled

Nobody...regardless of gender is entitled to hit anyone.

[quote LexMitior]@Hearhoovesthinkzebras

You and I going to have to disagree. Your way is that of the vigilante. You would do better to set a better example than justify instances why you are allowed to hit someone.

The point I have made to you is what you have done is just as bad, if not a little worse than the example you gave where a woman strikes your son.

Besides, I don’t think women are all flowers, but your son should hang out with a better class of woman than deal with this crap. It’s not like it’s hard decision to make.[/quote]
Interesting that you ignored my question about the police response, despite you advising that as s way to deal with it. I take it you agree that the police would do nothing.

Why say my son needs to hang out with different people? This situation has never happened. I clearly said "if it ever happened".

I have faith in the police. I have no reason not to. You sound as if you are looking, rather oddly, to justify hitting someone who has done nothing to you.

Under no circumstances whatsoever should a man strike a woman

I used to pull pints in a 'lively' venue in Bournemouth back in the day that was popular with the hen and stag bash crowd. It did not take long to see that drunk women are just as capable of obnoxious shit house violent behaviour as drunk men were. The difference being that most men engaging in fighting did not expect a free pass from their victim or door security where a surprising number of women thought that they could assault the bouncer or another bloke with zero physical repercussions by dint of the fact they were a woman.

well yes i think so, depends

@LexMitior

I have faith in the police. I have no reason not to. You sound as if you are looking, rather oddly, to justify hitting someone who has done nothing to you.

Nope. I have no desire to hit anyone and have never hit anyone. If anyone attacked either of my children though then that would be different.

Well I’m fascinated - must your revenge be extracted at the same time? Must it be slap for slap? If someone injured your children more seriously, does your principle extend to say equivalent harm? Stab for stab?

You are a curious person, who is engaging in some of fantasy about hitting someone: most parents are protective of their children and would admit similar feelings perhaps, but clearly unworried by most of the conventions that make us civilised. If we al indulged our feelings as you claim to think is acceptable, we would be much more violent.

You just claim the same privilege as the man who strikes back when he is hit.

@LexMitior

Well I’m fascinated - must your revenge be extracted at the same time? Must it be slap for slap? If someone injured your children more seriously, does your principle extend to say equivalent harm? Stab for stab?

You are a curious person, who is engaging in some of fantasy about hitting someone: most parents are protective of their children and would admit similar feelings perhaps, but clearly unworried by most of the conventions that make us civilised. If we al indulged our feelings as you claim to think is acceptable, we would be much more violent.

You just claim the same privilege as the man who strikes back when he is hit.

I think, in the natural order of things, if you were hit then it's automatic to hit back.

In the case of a woman hitting a man it's drummed into men that it isn't acceptable to hit them back so for some women they feel they've got carte blanche to slap men with impunity and there will be no comeback - which is basically true. A woman slaps a man and what will actually happen? The police won't be interested, we know that, so what happens? Nothing? So, yes, if I was there and witnessed it I would slap her back. As I said, bullies need a taste of their own medicine. If I found out that a girlfriend had done it then yes, I would confront her, as I would if I found out a man had hit my daughter. I'm really not fussed if you agree or not. I've never hit anyone in my life but I cannot abide bullies. Don't go around hitting people and expecting no comeback.

Well okay, I think we agreed to disagree some time back. But I don’t think there’s much moral in what you say, you claim a right that a) most people wouldn’t and b) is a crime.

Also, i don’t know this world where women are constantly assaulting men.

I just find the logic curious. What happens if the person decides after receiving your slap that they’d be prepared to give you something in return? By your logic, she would be entitled; don’t give out what you can’t take back.

Does that normally work where you live?

@LexMitior

Also, i don’t know this world where women are constantly assaulting men.

I just find the logic curious. What happens if the person decides after receiving your slap that they’d be prepared to give you something in return? By your logic, she would be entitled; don’t give out what you can’t take back.

Does that normally work where you live?

Maybe you need to go into town on a Friday or Saturday night. It's a fairly frequent sight around here seeing women lashing out - either at a bloke or each other.

I was brought up that if someone hits you then hit them back harder. What would you do if a woman hit you? Just walk away?

You're again talking about revenge, not self-defence, and yes, the proper response to being hit is to leave the situation, not retaliate blow for blow.

@category12

You're again talking about revenge, not self-defence, and yes, the proper response to being hit is to leave the situation, not retaliate blow for blow.

No, the proper response is for the first blow not to have been dealt.

Well, duh.

the proper response to being hit is to leave the situation,

And if you can’t leave the situation? Do you just curl up in a fetal ball and pray they don’t kill you?

I was responding to Hearmyhooves's education that if someone hits you, you hit them back harder.

In the vast majority of cases, flight is possible and a better response.

It's not OK to hit anyone. A woman hitting a man is unforgivable, just as a man hitting a woman.

Self-defence is justifiable. I think all but the most extreme of pacifists will agree with that. It is also allowed in English law. On the other hand gross escalation, such as a lethally strong punch in response to a trivial slap, is not justifiable or legal.

Defence of others who are less able to defend themselves is justifiable. I think most men would have few qualms about hitting a woman who was attacking the man's mother, partner, or children. (This is not the same thing as carrying out a revenge attack after the fact!)

Call me sexist but I've always thought that a woman hitting a man (be it in rage or for whatever reason) is nothing like the problem as the reverse, simply because of the massive strength imbalance. I'm reasonably certain I could knock my wife out cold in 1 hit, but she would have to either land an exceptionally lucky blow or be wielding a massive cast iron frying pan to achieve the same result. I'm not saying it's good for women to hit men, but I don't view it anything like as problematic, and I think it's the principle lesson that boys need to be taught by their fathers, that they learn the self control required to never retaliate and never strike a woman.

I would go so far as to say that a man hitting a woman is almost always abusive, whereas I think that it is almost never abusive for a woman to hit a man. I've never met a man who was physically afraid of his wife (though I'm sure it is possible they exist), although I think that almost every woman has had to consider at some point or another the sheer physical strength of her husband (whether in the heat of an argument or whatever).