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Time as a couple

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HatRack · 17/07/2020 16:50

I'm sure this is a common topic in this forum, and I'm sure I'm going to be pounced on for selfishness, but maybe the vipers can put things into perspective for me.

We are a blended family. My DC (8 & 10) and his DC (10, 10, & 7). We have mine most of the time. We have his 50% of the time.

DH is furloughed. I am working from home (I spend 9 till 6pm in the bedroom working on my laptop). The kids play in their bedrooms for the most part. At 6pm I come downstairs to relax on the sofa with DH. I am Autistic (this is relevant).

On the days when DH's kids are here, we get zero alone time, so when I come downstairs at 6pm to 'relax' after having spent all day working in the bedroom, I still have kids climbing all over us, constant asking for things, commentating over the TV. They refuse to go upstairs. One of them is particularly stubborn and says: "Why have us here if you don't want to spend time with us" (this is what I think MN will say). DH replies to his DC saying "You have all day to spend time with me, we adults just want a couple of hours to ourselves in the evening". His kids don't listen and stick around. DH makes a few half-hearted attempts at telling them to go upstairs and then accepts defeat and starts engaging with them. My kids don't do this. They respect the fact that we like to relax in the evening. They come downstairs for the occasional drink, but that's it.

The situation is not helped by the fact that DH thought it would be a good idea to let them stay up every night until we adults go to bed (around 11pm). He made this decision because when we were trying to put the kids to bed at 9.30pm, his kids (not mine) would start tantruming and other delay tactics, so they ended up going to sleep at 11pm anyway. At the time, DH said "You can go to bed when we adults go to bed IF you give us time alone in the evenings." The kids agreed to this. A few weeks have passed and this has not happened. We still have an audience every evening.

The overstimulation for me personally, triggers sensory overload. After a day of working alone my mental health needs to relax and connect with DH. When there is always at least one child asking questions, bumping into me as he pounces on his dad, and commentating over TV, criticising what we are watching, playing his ipad loud - I start feeling shaky and anxious. Recently I've started going to bed early. And I lye awake seething with resentment.

I'm prepared for MN to say IABU, 'it's only 50% of the time'. 'You hate his kids.'

I do NOT hate his kids. I connect and get on very well with them. I make a big effort to initiate conversations. But lockdown (no school) means that this is incredibly pronounced with no end in sight till September. We've lived like this since the schools closed.

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HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:15

@AIMD

I should add op. My 6 year old has been up and down all evening this week and not settling until around 10 (I think unsettled by the end of school year). It’s hard though and I’ve noticed lack of alone time, quiet time has made this week harder for me.So I do empathise with how you feel. I can never fully relax until he is well asleep .

I’ve made an effort to give him one to one, talk through anything that’s happening for him but I’m also now being strict on the bedtime boundaries because lack of sleep isn’t going to work for him or me.

You are doing the right thing.

It seems DHs kids only want to see him in the evening despite him being free all day.

I don't know why that is.

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Mydogisthebestest · 17/07/2020 20:16

You have not read what I posted and read something in to what I said that was not there. You’ve also been rude. With your “doesn’t matter” comment.

I never said I didn’t believe you and I said I thought maybe you and DH should compromise.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:16

@Aerial2020

I doubt understand why you are posting Confused Talk to your DH then and get on with it.
I'm lonely tbh. Talking to you people (despite the majority having a go at me) is the only adult contact Ive had all day.
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Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:20

No ones having a go.
I'm certainly not.
But they are acting up for a reason. There is always a reason. Maybe they want to spend time with you. Maybe they find the blended family hard and want attention. Kids don't usually vocalise things.
It is a challenging time and maybe you &Dh can tackle it together. They obvs need a structured bedtime so find a way of doing it by talking to your Dh.

Pebblexox · 17/07/2020 20:20

I do understand wanting some alone time with your dh. However if you only have his kids 50% of the time, and yours are happy to go to their bedrooms when you ask them you do get alone time with you dh on the evenings his children aren't at your home?
I think it's unreasonable to expect every evening to be for you and dh when you have children.

Mydogisthebestest · 17/07/2020 20:21

Why don’t you talk to your DH and kids if you’re lonely?

AIMD · 17/07/2020 20:23

Can you maybe look at it from another point of view and try to encourage other half to spend quality time with them in the day. Suggest places they can go or arrange a nice activity for them to do with their dad. If they get that connection in the day they might be less needy for his attention later on or more able to settle and rest in their rooms.

I think to a certain extent a lot of people’s daily routines have slipped over lockdown. I know my own bedtime is getting later and later!

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:29

@Mydogisthebestest

Why don’t you talk to your DH and kids if you’re lonely?
I'm upset and don't want my kids to pick up on it.

Also DH knows I'm upset so he's keeping his distance.

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HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:33

@AIMD

Can you maybe look at it from another point of view and try to encourage other half to spend quality time with them in the day. Suggest places they can go or arrange a nice activity for them to do with their dad. If they get that connection in the day they might be less needy for his attention later on or more able to settle and rest in their rooms.

I think to a certain extent a lot of people’s daily routines have slipped over lockdown. I know my own bedtime is getting later and later!

Oh I have. I've encouraged him to spend all day with them during the day. But his kids only want to spend time with him in the evening.

I don't understand it.

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AIMD · 17/07/2020 20:34

What are they doing in the day instead?

Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:44

Maybe they feel left out? Maybe they want to spend time with you in the eve if you're working all day? Maybe it's your attention they want because this is new dynamics for them

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:44

@AIMD

What are they doing in the day instead?
Playing on their ipads/games consoles
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MostlyHappyMummy · 17/07/2020 20:44

Sadly it sounds like living together as a blended family isn’t working for you
Can you live separately and still remain in a relationship during the time he doesn’t have his children?

Vik81 · 17/07/2020 20:47

Who is the adult here? You ask them to go to bed and they won't!! The oldest is ten years old. You need to take back control and have a routine, doesn't matter what they do at theirs moms in this household you do this, it's a fair request and if you don't there will be consequences. And ensure you follow out those consequences.

But on the reverse you need to spend quality time with all the children, in the routine do something you all want to do like a board game, something creative, go for a family walk, something where they get attention. Routine is the key to happy children. They know what to expect so no unpleasant surprises, they don't feel out of control.

AnnaNimmity · 17/07/2020 20:50

You sound terribly needy OP. You only have your DH's children half the time. Even them being there doesn't preclude you from speaking to your H. Most families do not have time just their OH once their children are past pre-school age.

I agree 11pm is too late (and that is your DH issue) but most children that age won't go to bed in the school holidays before 9.30. All of mine are still up. You aren't going to get couple time if you have children.

gamerchick · 17/07/2020 20:53

Oh I have. I've encouraged him to spend all day with them during the day. But his kids only want to spend time with him in the evening

I don't understand it

Because you're trying to chase them upstairs, effectively banning them from free access to their dad for 2 hours. Can you not remember being a kid wanting something you can't have? Kids don't see life the way we see it.

A different strategy is needed and a bedtime enforced by your bloke so you get some time to decompress. Or you'll have to find a way of unwinding alone when they're there.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:54

I'm so tired. It's constant. They never chill. Fighting. "I'm hungry". "I'm bored". My head is buzzing and I can't find my ear defenders. I'm close to tears. Currently listening to them disobey DH yet again. I'm an anxious wreck.

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Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:56
Flowers I think what another poster said about having the relationship but maybe living apart
gamerchick · 17/07/2020 20:56

Why don't you go and read a book upstairs, or have a bath if you like them? Let him deal with his kids. It's overwhelming for anyone listening to that autistic or not. Just remove yourself.

Mydogisthebestest · 17/07/2020 20:57

Why do you feel you need to be with your DH just you and him? Would being on your own be any use for calming you?

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:58

I'd rather reduce my expectations than live in a separate house. I'm not disrupting my poor kids.

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AIMD · 17/07/2020 20:59

@HatRack

I'm so tired. It's constant. They never chill. Fighting. "I'm hungry". "I'm bored". My head is buzzing and I can't find my ear defenders. I'm close to tears. Currently listening to them disobey DH yet again. I'm an anxious wreck.
Oh dear, it sounds very hard for you. Can you go to your bedroom and sit away from it doing something you like to do or go out for a walk to get a break from the noise?

It sounds like they’re in desperate need of routine (Limit on iPad/WiFi time, set bedtime and some structure of the day) and connection with your OH (proper one to one time).

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:59

@gamerchick

Why don't you go and read a book upstairs, or have a bath if you like them? Let him deal with his kids. It's overwhelming for anyone listening to that autistic or not. Just remove yourself.
I might have to. I can hear DH getting annoyed.
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HatRack · 17/07/2020 21:00

@Mydogisthebestest

Why do you feel you need to be with your DH just you and him? Would being on your own be any use for calming you?
Because I spend all day alone.
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Brusselsprouts21 · 17/07/2020 21:01

I think they see the time from 6-11pm as 'their time with their dad'. This could be similar to their situation at their mums. Its not a problem easily solved unfortunately. Your dh needs to be reasonable on both sides and maybe try making bedtime earlier. (Change the clocks so they think its still 11) keep doing that slowly and that way your dh isn't upsetting his kids and they think they have got what they want.
I feel awful that people are picking on the fact your kids do as they please. They come to you as and when they need. I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. I know many people around me who allow their kids their free time to do as they please as long as all school work is completed. These are times of uncertainty so i would relax in my house if my kids were that age. Good luck op