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Time as a couple

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HatRack · 17/07/2020 16:50

I'm sure this is a common topic in this forum, and I'm sure I'm going to be pounced on for selfishness, but maybe the vipers can put things into perspective for me.

We are a blended family. My DC (8 & 10) and his DC (10, 10, & 7). We have mine most of the time. We have his 50% of the time.

DH is furloughed. I am working from home (I spend 9 till 6pm in the bedroom working on my laptop). The kids play in their bedrooms for the most part. At 6pm I come downstairs to relax on the sofa with DH. I am Autistic (this is relevant).

On the days when DH's kids are here, we get zero alone time, so when I come downstairs at 6pm to 'relax' after having spent all day working in the bedroom, I still have kids climbing all over us, constant asking for things, commentating over the TV. They refuse to go upstairs. One of them is particularly stubborn and says: "Why have us here if you don't want to spend time with us" (this is what I think MN will say). DH replies to his DC saying "You have all day to spend time with me, we adults just want a couple of hours to ourselves in the evening". His kids don't listen and stick around. DH makes a few half-hearted attempts at telling them to go upstairs and then accepts defeat and starts engaging with them. My kids don't do this. They respect the fact that we like to relax in the evening. They come downstairs for the occasional drink, but that's it.

The situation is not helped by the fact that DH thought it would be a good idea to let them stay up every night until we adults go to bed (around 11pm). He made this decision because when we were trying to put the kids to bed at 9.30pm, his kids (not mine) would start tantruming and other delay tactics, so they ended up going to sleep at 11pm anyway. At the time, DH said "You can go to bed when we adults go to bed IF you give us time alone in the evenings." The kids agreed to this. A few weeks have passed and this has not happened. We still have an audience every evening.

The overstimulation for me personally, triggers sensory overload. After a day of working alone my mental health needs to relax and connect with DH. When there is always at least one child asking questions, bumping into me as he pounces on his dad, and commentating over TV, criticising what we are watching, playing his ipad loud - I start feeling shaky and anxious. Recently I've started going to bed early. And I lye awake seething with resentment.

I'm prepared for MN to say IABU, 'it's only 50% of the time'. 'You hate his kids.'

I do NOT hate his kids. I connect and get on very well with them. I make a big effort to initiate conversations. But lockdown (no school) means that this is incredibly pronounced with no end in sight till September. We've lived like this since the schools closed.

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Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 19:42

Have you asked yourself why their behaviour has changed?

HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:42

@GardenOfRaman

Why do you want a man with kids? It doesn't seem like you want to be aroumd your own kids, never mind anyone else's.
It would be hypocritical for me not to be in a relationship with a dad.
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HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:44

@Nanny0gg

I'm confused.

What time do your own children spend with you all?

And 11pm bedtime is ridiculous. Doesn't matter what their mother does. your house, your rules - bedtime is 9pm. Maybe 9.30 at weekends.

My kids come to me to check in periodically through the day for very brief periods. They are happy. I never turn them away.
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HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:45

@Aerial2020

Have you asked yourself why their behaviour has changed?
Yes and the main hypothesis is lockdown
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Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 19:45

Kids behaviours change all the time. It is up to us as parents to parent them with this. They are too young to manage it. You are expecting them to never change or behave exactly how you want.
That is not going to happen as they are humans not robots.
I think the bedtime is a red herring to your expectations.

Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 19:47

Lockdown is a stressful time. Yourself finds it stressful.
Do you not think the children are finding it hard too so are acting up for some attention? That is families, constantly changing and adapting.

Dozer · 17/07/2020 19:47

11pm bed time is much, much too late for DC of those ages IMO. 8 or 9pm would be much better, and give you some down time in the evenings.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:48

@Aerial2020

Kids behaviours change all the time. It is up to us as parents to parent them with this. They are too young to manage it. You are expecting them to never change or behave exactly how you want. That is not going to happen as they are humans not robots. I think the bedtime is a red herring to your expectations.
Can you give me an example of how you would stepparent kids that refuse to go to bed before 11-12pm?
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Dozer · 17/07/2020 19:49

Your H sounds inconsiderate towards you, and weak at parenting! He won’t set a reasonable bedtime - which would be in everyone’s interests - in order to avoid short term conflict with the DC. Wet!

gamerchick · 17/07/2020 19:50

@GardenOfRaman

Why do you want a man with kids? It doesn't seem like you want to be aroumd your own kids, never mind anyone else's.
It does look like this to me as well OP. When do you spend time with your own kids, do they get 2 hours a day like your husband with their mother? Do they have unfettered access to the internet, are you at least checking they're not talking to someone who could groom them?
Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 19:52

I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.
I'm asking why do you think they are playing up? I'd it's lockdown then you need to find another way of dealing with this.do they get any time with you?

CherryPavlova · 17/07/2020 19:53

It’s not to nice to use children like cuddly toys that can just be told to disappear at your convenience. Why have children if you don’t want to enjoy their company? You’ve had all day on your own.

Your autism really isn’t relevant; you chose to have children and to set up home with a man with children so have a responsibility towards them. It’s really not all about you - the children’s needs come before your wishes. Five children are going to be noisy.

Maybe set more reasonable expectations around a bedtime and quieter behaviour in the evenings. Don’t leave them full of energy and wanting to jump around. Take them out for a long family walk. You get time as a couple whilst the children moan about walking.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:54

@Dozer

Your H sounds inconsiderate towards you, and weak at parenting! He won’t set a reasonable bedtime - which would be in everyone’s interests - in order to avoid short term conflict with the DC. Wet!
That's how I saw the situation until I read all the replies in this thread.

We're in the minority.

I've accepted it but seems people have to repeat it over.

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HatRack · 17/07/2020 19:58

@Aerial2020

I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm asking why do you think they are playing up? I'd it's lockdown then you need to find another way of dealing with this.do they get any time with you?
What is it you want me to say? They're not my kids. Dh has veto over how they're parented, not me. My kids are well behaved with no concerns. They spend time with their paternal grandparents who have also reported they are thriving.

What else can I do?

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GardenOfRaman · 17/07/2020 20:05

That's how I saw the situation until I read all the replies in this thread

It's not an either/or. He can be weak at parenting whilst at the same time it is concerning that you barely spend any time at all with your own children.

Mydogisthebestest · 17/07/2020 20:06

Unfortunately having kids means you don’t get evenings.

Can you compromise?

If your DH kids are only there 50% don’t you get that time for each other.

I feel a bit sorry for your kid’s to be honest coz they never see you and their dad is dead.

Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:07

But you're part if their family you're part if their life. You dont 'parent' them as such but surely you want to spend time with them?
You can say whatever you want, it's your thread.
I'm trying to say that children's behaviours reflect on what's really going on for them. It's great there are no concerns with yours but that doesn't mean there wont be.
Surely as a blended family you tackle it together?

AIMD · 17/07/2020 20:07

Is your husband not willing to negotiate on the bedtime situation at all? or is he just refusing to because he is scared of the backlash and doesn’t know what to do.

Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:09

It's also not a competition between who has the best behaved kid. Which your paragraph sounded a bit like.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:10

@Mydogisthebestest

Unfortunately having kids means you don’t get evenings.

Can you compromise?

If your DH kids are only there 50% don’t you get that time for each other.

I feel a bit sorry for your kid’s to be honest coz they never see you and their dad is dead.

Re: my kids, I follow their lead. They come to me periodically for cuddles and I welcome it. They are docile kids by nature. Always have been. If I persuade them to be sociable they get upset. Doesn't matter whether you, a stranger on the internet, believes it or not.
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HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:11

@Aerial2020

It's also not a competition between who has the best behaved kid. Which your paragraph sounded a bit like.
My point is, DH makes the rules regarding his kids.
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Mydogisthebestest · 17/07/2020 20:11

I never said I didn’t believe you! I was being sympathetic.

AIMD · 17/07/2020 20:11

I should add op. My 6 year old has been up and down all evening this week and not settling until around 10 (I think unsettled by the end of school year). It’s hard though and I’ve noticed lack of alone time, quiet time has made this week harder for me.So I do empathise with how you feel. I can never fully relax until he is well asleep .

I’ve made an effort to give him one to one, talk through anything that’s happening for him but I’m also now being strict on the bedtime boundaries because lack of sleep isn’t going to work for him or me.

HatRack · 17/07/2020 20:13

@AIMD

Is your husband not willing to negotiate on the bedtime situation at all? or is he just refusing to because he is scared of the backlash and doesn’t know what to do.
Both I guess.
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Aerial2020 · 17/07/2020 20:14

I doubt understand why you are posting Confused
Talk to your DH then and get on with it.

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