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Is this really happening?? Help!!

199 replies

mummy20169 · 16/07/2020 10:44

Hi, I am new here.
I need to share my story or I will go mad, sorry for a long post.

I'm 30, husband 33 and we have a 4 year old boy together. Together for 14 years, the only serious relationship we both ever had. Majority of our life together was focussed on our careers but we encouraged and motivated each other and it kept us closely together. Of course we had our ups and downs, often arguing about petty things. We both have good jobs, nice things and generally consider ourselves to be lucky. Until now...

To keep it as short as I can, we tried for another baby for 2 years without success. We both really wanted another child and eventually I got pregnant last December. Unfortunately it turned out to be an ectopic pregnancy. That's when it all started.

I was obviously devastated, i think we both were, however he seemed to have been more upset about something else...
So, when they suspected an ectopic, the sent me straight to hospital where I went through lots of test and seen different consultants. They also advised a physical examination to which we both agreed. It was conducted by a male consultant and my husband got very upset after that. He started acting very strange, went very quite on me but I thought that he was just upset about loosing the baby. Later that night he woke me up asking how could I let another man touch my private parts, he was very angry and upset. I didn't know what to say I was so overwhelmed, I could't comprehend why this mattered so much when we just lost a pregnancy.

Anyway, fastforward 7 months and everything is different now. I have been labelled a cheat, he completely stopped any affection towards me, we sleep in separate beds, only had sex few times since then.

I am so overwhelmed with this situation, it feels like it is a nightmare which I can't wake up from. I was dreaming to have a big family for so long and now my husband became a stranger. There are few odd days that he is better, and talks to me and has a lough but most of the time he avoids me and will only have a brief chat about general things.

I tried and tried talking to him, he says he doesn't want to talk and I am only making it worse by starting a conversation. Counselling is completely out of the question at this point. I do not know what else to do, should I give him more time? Although he says that he isn't sure if he can ever get over it.

It seems such an awful reason to split up and break up our family but life is so difficult at the moment and I look after my boy 90% of the time as I am on furlough and he works. He is generally a good husband, he is intelligent and used to be very loving. I thought we were very strong together and I feel completely overwhelmed. He was always quite jeoulous of me, he thinks that literally everybody fancies me, which is of course not the case.

I guess i would like to hear your opinions on this. Sometimes I feel that being in this situation I can't think straight any more, have I really messed up or is he being unreasonable?

Thanks for reading x

OP posts:
GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 11:41

He is an absolute freak.

You don't deserve this, I'm sorry you've married and had a child with someone as fucked up in the head as this.

I can't see him changing.

Lauraa7 · 16/07/2020 11:41

I had an ectopic pregnancy so I can relate to the traumatic experience you have just gone through. For your husband now not be talking to you for the reasons you’ve put had me lost for words. How fucking dare he react like that! You could have died, ectopic pregnancy is the 2nd biggest killer in the US. Does he have any idea how serious this is. I just think his reaction is unforgivable.

custardbear · 16/07/2020 11:44

Really strange behaviours and attitude there!

Is he usually like this? I'd guess breakdown, affair or he's gaslighting you

footprintsintheslow · 16/07/2020 11:48

I don't think I've read anything like this before. What an awful situation for you.

What's this other thing he was upset about do you think? Could he be cheating and this is a smokescreen?

Whatever it is he needs help and you need some time away. Can you stay with family? If he didn't agree to counselling that would be the end for me.

Dery · 16/07/2020 11:48

PS you might want to try telling him that you already know that you can't get over his complete abandonment and abusive treatment of you at a time when you really needed him and over him destroying your marriage in this way.

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 11:50

Does he not know male doctors are involved in every aspect of female healthcare?

What dies it matter if op proves (which she should never have had to do) that it's normal for male gynaecologists and obstetricians etc to examine patients ...(her husband actually agreed along with her to the examination beforehand anyway!!!!!) ..

It's only aspect of the problem, it's clear from what op's said that he's very jealous and possessive "thinks everybody fancies me". No doubt op has had her behaviour dictated for their entire relationship to make him feel secure about her interaction with other men.

He's obviously a patholigically jealous and possessive type and I'm my experience and observation, there'd no fixing them.

Debating with him or trying to convince him the medical examination (he agreed to!) was necessary/appropriate etc is pointless. There would be no need for such a debate if he was mentally normal.

FranCan · 16/07/2020 11:50

he isn't sure if he can ever get over it.

This behaviour is completely manipulative, and obssesive. I'm sorry to say your partner has deep rooted issues that could take years of councelling to help improve and that's only if he recognizes he has a problem, which I think he doesn't.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this is not the man to spend the rest of your life with. Does he have any other obssesive tendancies?

FranCan · 16/07/2020 11:52

He's obviously a patholigically jealous and possessive type and I'm my experience and observation, there'd no fixing them.

@GilbertMarkham wholeheartedly agree with this

Shoxfordian · 16/07/2020 11:52

I don't see any option other than to leave him really
Why would you put up with his nonsense for 5 minutes?

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 11:52

(And yes it could also be something he's made a huge issue in order to distance himself from and end the marriage . . But the fact that he woke op up later after the examination to start abusing her about it (which is what this is) combined with the clear background of jealousy and possessiveness .. makes me think perhaps it's not).

His motives are irrelevant anyway, this is abuse and he is mentally unhinged (no matter how normal he may appear).

puzzledpiece · 16/07/2020 11:54

I wonder if he's the cheat. I always find the person doing the accusing is up to something

AWaspOnAWindowReturns · 16/07/2020 11:55

Sorry sweetheart. His behaviour screams to me that he's either had an affair, or he's having an affair, and he's projecting his guilt onto you. He's chosen the most despicable way to do it though. I'd be packing my bags and finding a real man right about now. 💐

user1465335180 · 16/07/2020 11:58

I'd second the idea that he's been cheating Op. You say he was acting strangely before you saw the male Dr? Is it possible he thought he'd passed on an STI and that caused your pregnancy to go wrong _ I'm not saying it was obviously, but he does seem to have some very strange ideas and his utter nastiness could be based on guilt? I'm sorry for your loss and hope you'll put yourself first and get away from him

frenchonion · 16/07/2020 11:59

He's fucking weird! Batshit weird. Show him the thread.

This is for him: seek help. You're fucked up.

onedaysoonish · 16/07/2020 12:00

OP it is shocking, really shocking, that after everything you have just been through he is behaving like this. I'm really sorry. Some of the PPs have suggested therapy, maybe that will help him see how awfully he is behaving, but how can he not realise himself? I hope you're ok x

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 12:01

Oh and op, if you "cheated" with that consultant, then is he not a co-cheater/equally at fault.

In that case shouldn't he be making a formal complaint to the hospital about his inappropriate and unprofessional sexual behaviour? (Of examining a patient with consent from both her and her partner in his role as a gynaecologist Hmm).

Or if it's infidelity, how come he isn't beginnings divorce proceedings with the consultant you cheated with named as co-correspondent. I mean after all he cheated with his wife/caused his wife to cheat right in front of him.

How come he hasn't done either if those things if he thinks he's right??

.. would it be because he knows they would make him look insane (which he is).

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 12:04

It's also absolutely disgusting that you were trying to recover from a pregnancy loss and potentially life threatening ectopic pregnancy, and instead of giving you support and care, he was waking you up and verbally abusing you about unhinged nonsense.

BurtsBeesKnees · 16/07/2020 12:06

You do know his behaviour and opinion on this matter is completely bonkers and wrong on so many levels!

If he feels so strongly about it, why hasn't he made a formal complaint- probably because he knows what he's saying is batshit

Or he needs professional help via councilling

Or he's cheating and projecting, treating you so badly you'll leave

Hailtomyteeth · 16/07/2020 12:06

Leave.

He has seen how to split and blame it on you, and how to make you the one to insist on leaving. He gets the freedom he clearly wants and you get all the negative opinions.

You can't fix this one. Quietly plan and go, before the end if the month (don't waste any more time on him). Don't tell him in advance, he's weird, perhaps he'll hurt you when he realises he's list control of you.

Bluetrews25 · 16/07/2020 12:13

Jealousy is a method of exerting a form of behaviour control on someone, so that you don't set him off.
Jealousy = control = abuse.
Very simple.
Very sorry.

Frequently on here the jealous DH accusing innocent OP of cheating has been cheating himself. They accuse you of what they have been doing. Seen it over and over.

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 12:14

Show him the thread.

Op will lose her "safe space" for support and he'll say we're all a pile of bitter bitches who must be divorced.

I think that's the standard line when men read stuff they don't like on MN.

GilbertMarkham · 16/07/2020 12:17

Also re. all the comments about him lot being intelligent (as op described him) if he thinks like this.

It's not about intelligence, intelligence and sanity are not mutually inclusive. There have been many many quite intelligent people who are also unhinged/maladjusted in some way.

funnylittlefloozie · 16/07/2020 12:22

I don't think hes a cheat. I think he is genuinely insane.

OP i am sorry that you are dealing with his madness on top of your pregnancy loss and surgery. I think he is not the man you hoped / thought he was, and your best bet is to free yourself from him.

GertrudeCB · 16/07/2020 12:24

Dont show an abusive man this thread.
Run away as fast as you can - he is unhinged.

penguinFlamingo · 16/07/2020 12:28

He is cheating. Trying to make himself into the victim in order to justify his behaviour. I don’t believe for a second (unless from a different culture) that he actually considers you being examined = ‘cheating’. It’s just all mind games and gaslighting. I agree with the pp who suggesting he was probably worried he had given you an std. Thats exactly what came to mind when you were describing his behaviour that night. Arsehole.