A little suspicious - any knowledgeable WhatsApp users around?

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Changed username for this.

I think DH might be blocking and unblocking me on WhatsApp.

He works away midweek. I noticed randomly a while ago that his profile pic on WhatsApp had changed to nothing. Before it had been a pic of us all.

Then noticed on sons phone a while later (he was showing me messages) it was a pic of the kids.

I didn't think much of it. Then I was whatsapping someone and his pic was of the kids on mine too. Basically thought I must have been mistaken and promptly forgot all about it. We very rarely WhatsApp each other, we mainly use iMessage but he uses WhatsApp with the kids and other family/friends. I use it for the kids and workmates mainly.

Fast forward to last night. Was on WhatsApp and saw the picture of the kids. He is quite high up on my chats list.

For some reason I screenshot it. Then this morning, went to WhatsApp my sister and the pic is back to nothing again. It's of the kids on my sons!

I WhatsApped a message and it's just got one tick and has for ages. But on a group kids chat we are on it went to two straight away for him when I messaged this morning.

This is just weird!

It can't be that he wants to hide his last online as he has that set so nobody sees that anyway. He wouldn't need to block me for that.

Any ideas as to why?

I know the right thing to do is ask. I don't really want to do that right now.

When a ‘friend’ of mine was having an affair he blocked his partner on whatsapp so she couldn’t see when or how often/long he was online chatting to OW.

Yep. I suppose if he's online in the early hours it's harder to explain it being Mum or workmates!

He'd probably just say he's reading through message threads or something.

So I need to be prepared for that by keeping a record I suppose.

I really hope this is not that bad but

The vagaries of whatsapp also get to me sometime. I just did a bit of googling and found an article about not being able to add a contact to a new group chat if they have blocked you. I can't test the theory out for you but you could start to create a new group chat , try to add him (at a time when you think you are blocked ) and see what happens? If you are blocked at the moment you could try now. ?

My sister suggested that too.

I was slightly worried that if I did that he would then see I'd invited him when unblocked. I'm keen on not blowing I by drawing attention to things. Let's just say I've done that before. I know messages sent when blocked don't suddenly appear thanks to previous posters. But not sure about group invites.

I'm definitely blocked. I can see that now.

Simply blocking wouldn't make the picture go if he still had you saved as a contact.

Yes it would. His pic gone on OP's WhatsApp? OP is blocked. His pic is still on son's WhatsApp? Son is not blocked.

If your sister suggested it test the theory with her. Get her to block you , create the group chat, see what happens, unblock and see what notifications she gets.

He's definitely blocking you.

I'm sorry OP but the only reasons I can think of for him to do this arent good.

• sorry bit slow here this morning, of course for a group chat you need at least your sister and one more.

No it's not possible for him to have two accounts, WhatsApp will only let you log in with the phone number of the phone you're on.

Personally, I'd wait until you're next face to face and alone, ask why he's blocking you on WhatsApp and see what he says. If you're suspicious anyway, I see no benefit in going along with everything as normal with your relationship and mental well-being sustaining damage every day. If you think he's the type to lie through his teeth until you've got film footage of him shagging someone else, why are you with him? Besides which, if he is actively trying to hide whatever he's doing, he's likely doing it to the best of his abilities already.

I think he’s definitely blocking you, I’m guessing because he’s conducting an affair and communicating primarily through WhatsApp, so doesn’t want you to see he’s always on there, or is on at strange times and get suspicious. I’m also guessing because you don’t seem to communicate directly through there to each other (only on a group chat, of which you will be able to still talk) he was hoping you wouldn’t notice.

blocking and still having them saved as a contact definetly makes the photo go, and messages sent while blocked just are just never recived.

I've tested this with a friend for reasons.

IF you did want to say something or when you are ready to I would say " I forwarded you a funny picture on WhatsApp earlier but it hasn't been delivered, I think my phones playing up? Can't see your dp either "

Maybe you should block him

That would get him thinking

My OH was cheating via WhatsApp. He deleted all messages but didn’t change his network and storage usage in settings. Also look at recently deleted pictures in this photo albums ( I found some very unpleasant pictures I can not unsee in there). Also check Facebook and Instagram searches and recent internet search history. Have a practice on your phone first so you know what to do quickly. Have your phone ready on camera to take photos of anything you find. He may have also Face ID protected his WhatsApp. Also check in his car if you can as they often leave evidence in there (receipts etc). Can you see his mobile phone records to see the numbers he’s calling and texting (another giveaway in my case as he hated being on the phone but was on the phone to her for nearly an hour at a time).
I never doubted my OH and only became suspicious when I went to borrow his phone to call his mum and he’d changed his passcode (had had the same one for ever).
Really hope you don’t find anything but be prepared for the shock if you do.

IF you did want to say something or when you are ready to I would say " I forwarded you a funny picture on WhatsApp earlier but it hasn't been delivered, I think my phones playing up? Can't see your dp either confused

No, don't do this. You're giving him the answer to the question then. All he has to do is say, 'Yeah, probably' and leave it at that. I'd come out with the full, 'Why do you keep blocking me on WhatsApp?' and then see if he has to scramble to find a reasonable explanation.

Now I'm not blocked!

Just putting here as a record till I find another way of recording.

I think, unless he's really thick, it's a bug. Most people cheating or doing anything on the WhatsApp wouldn't do this to hide stuff, as I know you said you don't use it often, but if you do go on you can tell it's been done.

Block him

See if he says anything

I don't know @NoMoreDickheads. There haven't been any reports of a bug that randomly blocks people as far as I can see.

'When you block someone, they won't be able to tell whether you are online or when you last came online. The status area beneath your name in the chat page will appear blank. This applies to you also. A blocked contact can't see your profile picture, instead, they can see WhatsApp's default profile picture for contacts.'

covve.com/how-to/what-happens-when-you-block-someone-on-whatsapp/

Looks like he's blocking you at night time as he doesn't want to you go to see him being online. Take screenshots of when his picture is there and again when not

Don't say anything to make him suspicious. I doubt you'll find anything in call or text records as he can avoid all that by using WhatsApp for all those things, and because you rarely use it with him he thinks that's safe, other than the early hours incident which is almost certainly what's prompted the blocking and unblocking. Keep tracking it with the other SIM, and see if you can get hold of his phone when he's home. When he's in the shower or asleep might be your best chances.

You can delete your message to him if you are still blocked and he won't receive it when he unblocks you.

I'd say he's blocking you so you don't see when he's online. If he's got his 'last seen' switched off then it's only so you don't see when he's actually online. I'd say it's to stop his phone pinging when he's with someone, but as you don't use it and use iMessage then I doubt it's that.

As you said, use your kids phones to check when he's blocked you.

Trouble is with checking when he's in the shower, chances are he'll block whoever he's talking to when he's home.

If you do get into his phone, go into WhatsApp

Settings>account>privacy>blocked

Will give you a list of all blocked numbers