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DH has a crush on someone else

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CrushingMeSoftly · 12/04/2020 18:06

I’ve no idea where to start with all this but I’m hoping the wisdom of Mumsnet will help me think clearly.

I started noticing that my DH was becoming distant, grumpy and had stopped being affectionate. He made no effort on Valentines Day which was unusual. My spidery senses started and I decided to look at his phone...he’d changed the code.

I confronted him, asked him what was going on and told him I needed to look at his phone which he refused. After a difficult conversation he said he was worried if I looked at his phone I “might misconstrue some messages”. I had a look but couldn’t find anything. I did notice he’d added a work colleague to Facebook and he’d messaged her on Valentine’s Day, a very normal everyday message about the kids but something felt off.

We carried on another couple of weeks and he went out a couple of times and got absolutely smashed which was completely out of character. Whilst he was drunk and asleep I decided to look at his phone again and found lots of messages between him and a male colleague where it was clear they were talking about him having a massive crush on a female colleague...the one he’d messaged on Valentines Day. It was clear from the messages that this woman had no idea, nothing had gone on but from his perspective he was clearly spending a lot of time thinking about her.

I confronted him the next day, he initially denied it and then broke down and told me everything. They’d had a works do, gopher spent some time talking to her and they just really clicked. He’s done nothing about it, there was nothing more than a friendly chat but he can’t stop thinking about her. He says he still loves me, is in love with me but these feelings won’t go away. He then tells me and the kids he’s got feelings for someone else and us leaving us. Cue hysterics from the kids and me being just completely floored.

We talk it through and both recognise that we’ve lost our way and need to put effort into our relationship. He was due to go to another work event that weekend which he still went to and despite everything we’d said he got drunk again. This woman was there and I suspect that was why he still had to go.

I suggested relationship counselling which he agreed to and we’ve been around 3 times now. Things have been better but I said I had three conditions to us trying. He had to wear his wedding ring, he had to stop interacting with her on social media and he had to make an effort. He has failed on all three. He keeps forgetting to wear his ring. Mother’s Day saw no real effort and It was my birthday last week and he made barely any effort. The nail in the coffin was this weekend when l realised he’s started following her on Instagram.

I’ve told him he needs to leave. I think lockdown isn’t helping but he’s far too comfortable having a life with me whilst mooning over her. I’m 99.9% sure this woman has no idea and there has been no physical contact. From looking at his phone she politely replied to his message on Valentines Day but was by no way encouraging anything.

I’ve been putting off posting here because I know I’ll get some hard truths but I need to hear it. Tell me what I should be doing.

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category12 · 13/04/2020 20:10

You sure can minimise it, tho. Hmm

Look, it's your life, but he's been horrendous to you all over this and I doubt very much it'll be the end of it.

Windyatthebeach · 13/04/2020 20:13

No way would my dh get back in the door after this op.
Seems like you are silently doing the pick me dance.
How much of life do you want him to experience without your support?
Sex with another woman?

champagneandfromage50 · 13/04/2020 20:14

Hmm if my OH of over 20yrs was moping around my house expecting my emotional support as he had a crush on someone 20yrs younger than him then I agree with anyfucker you cant help your DH, he has a crush. I know that for me once my feelings have switched to someone else thats the end. I dont know what needs to happen for your DH to suddenly realise what he is missing and I worry for you CrushingMeSoftly that you think him moving to his parents is going to make him realise he actually loves you and wants to be with you.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:16

Maybe I am minimising things but you have to realise that there is only so much I can explain on a message board. He’s been a complete dick and there is no defending that. People make mistakes and he’s never done anything like this before. Who can say they’ve never made a mistake?

I’ve been very clear with him about what I expect. He now needs to sort his head out and think about what he actually wants. I’ll be doing exactly the same.

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BasicIntentions · 13/04/2020 20:19

I’m very sorry for the situation you find yourself in but good guys don’t tell their children they’re lusting after another woman.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:20

Champagne I don’t remember saying he was moping about the house.

Lots of posters are filling in the gaps here and adding in detail I haven’t given.

There is no pick me dance going on here.

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CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:22

BasicIntensions you can judge him on that, I’ll judge him on the 20 years I’ve known him. Like I’ve said I can defend that.

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Windyatthebeach · 13/04/2020 20:30

He told your dc. Unforgivable...

Meaniebobeanie · 13/04/2020 20:34

You can't stop a bird from landing on your head but but can stop it from nesting. That's my motto now. He has well and truly let this crush nest. I've had a crush on someone early in my marriage (it must of lasted about 2 years) I cringe at the thought of it now. So one thing I regret is I let it nest well and truly, so to speak, that's why it took so long. But one thing I'm so relieved I did do was not to tell a soul. I don't know what I would of done if the person acted on it, although he did give me lots of attention but I only saw him once a week and we never swapped numbers or added each other on social media. So what I did eventually was I worked on my marriage and made an effort to appreciate what I had, and promised myself everytime I fantasized about him I force myself to fantasize about what hurt I would cause to everyone not just my husband but his family and mine. This took some real forcing to be honest and I took the decision to not see him at all which was hard but I got used to it. The heart can truly be a treacherous thing you see. It took sometime put it worked. I do think you have got a chance if he sees the value in you and does love you. I had to think how much my husband does for me and how he doesn't deserve this. Anyway that was about 7 years ago now and that person occasionally pops up in my dreams but I don't care at all or have the slightest thought or feeling consciously. I did notice some attraction for someone maybe a year ago but as I fought so hard I promised I never let a crush nest, this was much easier to deal with and much easier to dismiss. My marriage is stronger for it. If he loves you he will try harder. Admitting to his friend and messaging her was his first mistake. Telling the kids was a pretty stupid move. I hope your marriage can be saved but I don't think he has gone about it right so far. I do wish things work out for you.

Fantasiaa · 13/04/2020 20:37

@AnyFucker
How tf is it unforgivable?
There is no need to make women who want to make a relationship work feel shitty.
As far as Op knows, he hasn’t tried to initiate an affair, he hasn’t had an affair for years, he hasn’t impregnated another woman, he isn’t sleeping with her friend.... all things women on mumsnet have experienced.

What we do know is that he has a crush and has been asked to leave and has left.
It’s workable.

thefourgp · 13/04/2020 20:39

You originally said OP that you told him you had three conditions he had to comply with to save your relationship. He didn’t comply with any of them and you still haven’t ended the relationship. I appreciate you’ve spent 20 years together so the thought of being single and without him is very scary but I think he’s made it very clear you’re no longer his priority. It sounds like he’s staying because of guilt and embarrassment rather than because he truly wants to spend the rest of his life with you. If you stay together I’d bet on the same thing happening with another woman in the next year or two but this one may reciprocate his attention and affections.

flippefloppe · 13/04/2020 20:40

I think you are playing it well. He needs a bit of time out to think. You are not on a break though (Ross and Rachel!).

Has he left?

boomchikawowwow · 13/04/2020 20:41

OP you are a more forgiving person than me. That would be it for me. Just because he hasn't taken it further doesn't alter things. Do you think if she had shown interest back he would have remembered his marriage vows then?
There's crushing on someone else then there's being infatuated with someone else which it sounds like he is. He's so infatuated he's moving out.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:41

Meaniebobeanie I agree with everything you’ve said and thanks for sharing your experience with me. I can think of times I’ve noticed I’m starting to have feelings for someone and like you say you have to put a stop to it.

I think he had been having feelings for about 4 weeks when I asked him about it and it all came out. He says he only told his male colleague because he commented on how well he seemed to have got on with this woman at the party. Him telling his male colleague and him contacting her, albeit about something innocuous is what really hurts. He says he still loves me and that’s what’s confusing him the most.

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CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:44

boomchikawow he’s moving out because I asked him to. I don’t think he knows how he feels so if you know how he feels you’re doing better than him!

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Wolfgirrl · 13/04/2020 20:47

I dont understand though why would he message her if he wasnt intending to pursue her? If he was desperate to keep his feelings in check he wouldn't have done. It was clearly to begin a text flirtation that would lead to an affair.

And 4 weeks?! Didnt take him long to reach that point!

boomchikawowwow · 13/04/2020 20:48

@crushingmesoflly I've been in your shoes on more than one occasion with my ex. I always hoped his vows to me would make him see sense and what he was risking throwing away. In the end he pursued a woman he met once who lived 300 miles away because he couldn't get her out of his head. So yes I'm cynical.

EKGEMS · 13/04/2020 20:49

Sorry crushingmesoftly but you are very kind and he doesn't deserve you dear

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:49

thefourgp I’ve seen The end of enough relationships to know that whilst it will be hard most people end up happier in the end. I’m not staying in a relationship where I’m second best, If I need to end my marriage I will and I know I’ll be fine.

We’ve been seeing a relationship counsellor, more recently virtually due to the lockdown and we’re working through our issues. I have a really good career, I have real life support and I’m not a door mat. I don’t have to stay with this. I love him but I’m not scared to move on. If we end our marriage then we’ll be doing it amicably. If more comes to light and I’ve not been told the full story then I’m ready for that too. I’m calm and rational until I’m not.

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champagneandfromage50 · 13/04/2020 20:51

It sounds like it doesnt really matter what anyone says on here. Your willing to give because of your 20yrs together and are expecting him to suddenly have a wake up call when he isnt with you. Good luck.....

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:54

Wolfgirrl I’m not completely stupid and I understand that he was testing the water and seeing what she said or responded. It was all very innocent minimal chat about the kids and it didn’t last long.

boomchikawowwow I appreciate the cynicism, I’m keeping all possibilities in mind. People change and every thread I’ve ever read on here tells me I need to be on my guard. He might disappoint me even more than he has so far but I can only go on my gut instinct for now.

EKGEMS thank you and you’re probably right. I’m not a saint though and I’ll only be understanding for so long.

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Meaniebobeanie · 13/04/2020 20:55

I still loved my husband but in my opinion not enough for it to happen. I worked on that really hard as he didn't know. I do think there is hope. But he really needs to face facts this is just a crush and it will pass. If he's only honestly had feelings for four weeks it shouldn't be that hard, and it's crazy he told everyone. I guess maybe he thought it might stop him. My friend had a crush in her marriage also, she told the bloke and he admitted feelings for her and his girlfriend nearly broke her arm when she found out. Her husband was very supportive and admitted neglecting her, they have not had it easy and he has been not Saint since but they are still together and going ok 2 years on, so it can work. She left work by the way and that helped as she then never saw him then plus she blocked his number. If he loves you and wants to save his marriage he will have to take these scarifies and basically purge this person from his thoughts, it's like a drug he will kick it if he wants to, but he was to make the effort. I'm so sorry you are the victim in this and your kids hope it works out and you can be happy one way or another after this Flowers

Robin233 · 13/04/2020 20:55

There was a women who had a crush.
Her husband had been ill and things had been difficult.
The crush started to pursue her.
She resist (it was difficult )

She worked on the marriage

Love for husband rekindled

A few years after crush moved away.

Saw crush some time later - didn't know what she had been thinking.

It happens , but it passes.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 21:00

champagneandfromage50 who knows I’ve never done this before. I’m here and I’m listening. It’s a wonder any marriage ever survives if the advice is to LTB at the first sign of trouble. I’m willing to give him a chance but it is time limited and with conditions.

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Sarcelle · 13/04/2020 21:00

His much younger colleague probably realises that the old guy she bumps into at work is mooning after her and probably cringes when she sees him. If I was his DW I would cringe when I see him too, out of embarrassment for him. He is a superannuated teenager, and I would lose all respect for him. Telling his kids he needs to leave because of an unrequited crush is just so cringeworthy.