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DH has a crush on someone else

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CrushingMeSoftly · 12/04/2020 18:06

I’ve no idea where to start with all this but I’m hoping the wisdom of Mumsnet will help me think clearly.

I started noticing that my DH was becoming distant, grumpy and had stopped being affectionate. He made no effort on Valentines Day which was unusual. My spidery senses started and I decided to look at his phone...he’d changed the code.

I confronted him, asked him what was going on and told him I needed to look at his phone which he refused. After a difficult conversation he said he was worried if I looked at his phone I “might misconstrue some messages”. I had a look but couldn’t find anything. I did notice he’d added a work colleague to Facebook and he’d messaged her on Valentine’s Day, a very normal everyday message about the kids but something felt off.

We carried on another couple of weeks and he went out a couple of times and got absolutely smashed which was completely out of character. Whilst he was drunk and asleep I decided to look at his phone again and found lots of messages between him and a male colleague where it was clear they were talking about him having a massive crush on a female colleague...the one he’d messaged on Valentines Day. It was clear from the messages that this woman had no idea, nothing had gone on but from his perspective he was clearly spending a lot of time thinking about her.

I confronted him the next day, he initially denied it and then broke down and told me everything. They’d had a works do, gopher spent some time talking to her and they just really clicked. He’s done nothing about it, there was nothing more than a friendly chat but he can’t stop thinking about her. He says he still loves me, is in love with me but these feelings won’t go away. He then tells me and the kids he’s got feelings for someone else and us leaving us. Cue hysterics from the kids and me being just completely floored.

We talk it through and both recognise that we’ve lost our way and need to put effort into our relationship. He was due to go to another work event that weekend which he still went to and despite everything we’d said he got drunk again. This woman was there and I suspect that was why he still had to go.

I suggested relationship counselling which he agreed to and we’ve been around 3 times now. Things have been better but I said I had three conditions to us trying. He had to wear his wedding ring, he had to stop interacting with her on social media and he had to make an effort. He has failed on all three. He keeps forgetting to wear his ring. Mother’s Day saw no real effort and It was my birthday last week and he made barely any effort. The nail in the coffin was this weekend when l realised he’s started following her on Instagram.

I’ve told him he needs to leave. I think lockdown isn’t helping but he’s far too comfortable having a life with me whilst mooning over her. I’m 99.9% sure this woman has no idea and there has been no physical contact. From looking at his phone she politely replied to his message on Valentines Day but was by no way encouraging anything.

I’ve been putting off posting here because I know I’ll get some hard truths but I need to hear it. Tell me what I should be doing.

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CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 17:09

Lippy1234 I understand why you’d say that but I can only talk about my experience of living with him for 20 years. If he doesn’t want to be with me then I don’t want to be with him. People make mistakes, people get confused. Is a crush worth throwing away 20 years together?

If it turns out there is more to this then it’s over but all the evidence I’ve seen so far supports his story. I’ve read the relationship board for years, I know the script and I’ve seen how these threads play out. I can only trust my gut on this. If I’m wrong then I’ll find out in time.

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Wolfgirrl · 13/04/2020 17:10

@CrushingMeSoftly

With the best will in the world, the only reason nothing happened between them is because he contacted her to test the water and she didnt reciprocate.

How is that commitment to your marriage?

If he truly didnt intend to cheat he would not have contacted her.

I think if you take him back, you will always be wondering.

Lippy1234 · 13/04/2020 17:11

You sound a very strong and sensible woman.
Once again I’m sorry you are going through this.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 17:12

billy1966 I think that’s been my problem so far. He needs to experience life without me giving him emotional support. I’m not a saint and I have shouted and been angry with him. I can see how hard all this is for him and he’s really struggling with it. It’s hard because because we still love each other. He just can’t fathom his feelings.

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Lippy1234 · 13/04/2020 17:13

What about your feelings? Please don’t make this all about him.

happinessischocolate · 13/04/2020 17:26

Has he gone to his parents' house?

I'm hoping they won't have him and he'll find himself in his own in a bedsit.

Wolfgirrl · 13/04/2020 17:34

I agree with @Lippy1234

It seems like OP is trying to get past it by seeing his crush as some random condition that was inflicted upon him. He chose to contact her and tell his workmate all about it, humiliating his wife.

YearZeroooo · 13/04/2020 18:22

For all his morals he has behaved badly.
When you married he made promises and commitments.
When he became a father he became obliged to put his children first.

I understand he feels like he's going mad.
The same thing - a violent crush on a colleague - happened to me, many years ago.
It was deeply unpleasant and I had nobody I could talk to as OH & me had been together many years at that time.
My OH was (and is) a good person who I loved and respected and he, and my family, and his, and our friends, had done nothing wrong and didn't deserve the fallout that would come from a breakup.
So what did I do? The right thing - sucked it up and waited for the madness to fade. Not super fun but thank heavens I did.

I understand what he's going through but he's being selfish and shallow ("childish" is an insult to children, who generally don't like to MAKE PEOPLE THEY LOVE CRY).
And I am so, so sorry 💐 that he doesn't have the decency that you'd hope for. He needs to grow the *!#& up but it sounds as if it might be a little too late... :(

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 18:47

I’m not blind in all this and I’m not choosing to see his crush as something that was inflicted upon him. I also understand that sometimes you get feelings and you can’t stop that. He’s behaved badly but can everyone say they’ve never made a mistake?

What he could have done was told me about it sooner. I can see he tried to not indulge it but clearly at times he did. He’s not told her how he feels and nothing physical has happened between them. He’s guilty of thinking about someone else and telling our kids he was thinking of leaving to sort his head out because he had feelings for someone else. Not his finest moment I accept.

YearZeroooo I think his plan was to suck it up and wait for the madness to fade but I noticed something was wrong. He then had no choice but to tell me what was going on. In 20 plus years he has absolutely honoured his marriage vows.

My offer to work on things is time limited and with conditions. He’s left to sort himself out and do some hard thinking. Do people really think it’s beyond repair and not worth trying?

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Blurby · 13/04/2020 18:53

This would be an entirely different thread if the woman was into him too...

MrsPerfect12 · 13/04/2020 18:55

No I don't think it's beyond repair and not worth trying. Providing nothing has happened. Either way he needs to delete her from social media and perhaps even move jobs so he's no longer in contact with her. If he wants to save your marriage he will do whatever it takes. Keep with the counselling. Good luck

ChangedMyNameYetAgain · 13/04/2020 19:05

Been the DP who this happened to.
A female friend of his became single.
God knows what was going on with them - he said nothing, but he was taking her out, taking her to events, going round to hers.
Lying the whole time.
He might have gone away with her - he travelled with work and had hobby weekends (not cycling)
I think I turned a blind eye - he was the last person I would have been suspicious of.
He turned into a monster.
I will never fully trust anyone again.

Kick him out OP. Only take him back if you are absolutely 100% sure it won't happen again, and I don't think you will.

EKGEMS · 13/04/2020 19:14

"He's my best friend" Nope he's an impostor who developed an infatuation with ANOTHER woman and dumped you and your children after 20 years of marriage. Sadly I think you truly aren't thinking about what's best for you and the children just trying to bend over backwards and persuade all concerned how wonderful he is

littleeasterbonnet · 13/04/2020 19:26

He just can't fathom his feelings

He needs to stop thinking about his feelings. He needs to give himself a massive kick up the arse.

How about he starts thinking about your feelings, and how much he's hurting you and the children?

Krazynights34 · 13/04/2020 19:41

He developed such unfathomable feelings from one conversation?
I see you sat he meets her making drinks but he’s only talked (properly) to her once and he wants to leave you?
I’m sure he hasn’t done anything, like you say, but he is beyond having a crush if that’s what he thinks... he is besotted.
And presumably for someone who has no interest in him.
I’m only half joking when I say some movies have this storyline

Carol1980 · 13/04/2020 19:42

I don't think your at the point no no return.

If he had cheated I would say run for the hills, but you seem to have done your digging and as far as that goes, he's not taken that step.

My only question would be.....if he was to take that step and confess his feelings for them not to be reciprocated, would you still be open to take him back.

It's a hard one. I've always been very open with my husband that if he was to cheat on me that it would be the end, as trust is a very important thing to me.

I love him dearly and it would be hard to gain that trust back, and if he was willing to do all the hard work then yes I probably would take him back but it would be a very very very long road to recovery.

You seem to be so level headed about the entire situation and I have to commend you on how rational your thoughts are x

I didn't think there were many of us rational thinking people out there anymore !!

ChippyPickledEggs · 13/04/2020 19:46

CrushingMe I think the answer to your last question is that it is absolutely your choice. It's very easy to sit behind a computer screen and say LTB. But who wouldn't balk at walking away from 20 years of marriage over a crush.

I don't think it's necessarily beyond repair. I imagine things won't ever be quite the same again though.

YouJustDoYou · 13/04/2020 19:47

He is a stupid, immature prick, one of many, many men who "click" with a woman and all of sudden the fucking morons forget that being with someone else is still paying bills and the grind of work and chores and life work in general and not these snatched Disney moments if glittering rose-tinted romantic emotions etc. I despise men like him with an absolute fucking passion, because they destroy entire lives with their selfishness and stupidity and only months/years down the line They look back and can't believe they threw everything away for nothing.

Lippy1234 · 13/04/2020 19:56

He can’t fathom his feelings because he’s been knocked back by the woman he fancies.
Would he still be your best friend and a genuinely good guy if the woman had been interested?

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 19:57

EKGEMS he hasn’t dumped me but break things to me gently eh Grin

Carol1980 I’ve given it some thought and no I wouldn’t be willing to work on things if he’d taken that step. I’ve made it clear to him that if I find out there is more to this than he’s said then it’s over.

Krazynights34 she’s worked at his work for a few years, he knew her and thought she was nice. According to him they spoke at this works thing and he felt they just clicked. They like the same music and have similar interests. She is in a relationship with a young child and as far as I know she has no idea.

He admitted that at the height of all this he felt like he wanted to leave. Obviously I feel devastated, humiliated and I’m left questioning our whole relationship. I’m willing to see if we can work on things. If not then we’ll end our marriage and continue to coparent our kids. He’s a good bloke, he’s made a mistake and he’s struggling to make sense of it all. I’ve asked him to leave and he has.

It’s not great but it’s not unforgivable. If more comes to light than he’s said then it will definitely be over. Like I’ve said I’ve seen enough threads on here to understand that husbands are not always forthcoming about what’s really gone on. Good people make mistakes and not all men are arseholes. Time will tell if I’m right or completely deluded.

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AnyFucker · 13/04/2020 20:00

It’s not great but it’s not unforgivable

Your bar is very, very low Sad

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:02

YouJustDoYou I 100% agree and I’ve told him exactly that. He’s acting like a complete mid life crisis cliche.

Lippy1234 he’s not been knocked back because the poor woman doesn’t even know anything about it. I can only say that he has been nothing but kind and respectful in all the years I’ve known him. This is absolutely out of character and he’s only guilty of having feelings so far.

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category12 · 13/04/2020 20:03

Not all men are arseholes, no, but your one is. He dumped all this on your kids.

CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:04

Really AnyFucker? So you think 20 years of marriage should be wiped out because he’s developed a crush on someone? I know you’re a huge fan of leave the bastard but really you think this is unforgivable?

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CrushingMeSoftly · 13/04/2020 20:07

category123 he said to the kids that he thought he needed to leave. He’d developed feelings for somebody else and he was struggling to make sense of it all. It wasn’t the best way to deal with things but he was trying to be honest. I can’t defend him on that front.

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