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Dating thread 182 - keeping our irons warm by the fireplace

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saltysally · 24/01/2020 14:46

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future

Link to Info on Dating Websites & Apps www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3514717-List-of-Dating-Site-Info-Dating-Thread

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Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item.

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saltysally · 24/01/2020 17:07

I think we should all gatecrash @marlbs house on Saturday night...

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dancemom · 24/01/2020 17:11

Checking in

@shitwithsugaron yay for you! You got there before I did 😂

NoMoreWeepingAndWanking · 24/01/2020 17:37

I've asked if he's still not feeling chatty. If he replies we can talk. If he doesn't reply or gives me an emoji or brief answer he's getting binned. I haven't had a message in weeks really.
So he's either not that interested, not making me a priority, doesn't have the time or is deliberately yanking my chain. And none of those is ok with me.

I'm knowing my worth. Go me!

Jane1978xx · 24/01/2020 17:44

@aufaitaccompli. That’s awful he did that , did you leave then ?

Misty9 · 24/01/2020 18:06

@KeepCalmCarryOhFuckIt I do if you want to pm Flowers

Surprise surprise I've heard nothing from Mr reindeer. @Marlboroandmalbec34 I also have a tendency to think with my vagina...so I would advise keeping sex out of it for a bit too. Test his worth, you know yours. Especially after he didn't exactly prove it last year. It's hard though, I know!

I'm having a takeaway and chat with a good friend later while the kids rampage upstairs and I'm trying to get my needs met in ways other than chasing after men. For a while at least! No kids or plans tomorrow though...

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/01/2020 18:18

Oh ffs gang! Ok ok I will be good. I think for some reason I’m more nervous about a date and if I chuck sex back in I’m back into my comfort zone. He is so happy about our date I’m surprised.

salty that would be fab actually. Make sure I come home alone, someone to discuss it in detail with and I keep good wine!

aufait what did you do? Sorry that happened to you. What is it with porn addled men?

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/01/2020 18:21

aufait we are a real mix bag of ages, sizes and shapes here lovely. I haven’t done a survey but I think a lot of the guys and gals on this thread are 40 plus. Lots of us have kids and we all have some kind of body hang ups.

Peanutbuttermouth · 24/01/2020 18:49

Checking in. aufait that is horrendous and has happened to me a couple of times in the last 2 years. It's a porn thing. I DESPISE porn for what it's doing to sex. marlboro you know everyone will check if you brought him home so don't do it 😂

aufaitaccompli · 24/01/2020 18:59

Thanks all... I did nothing. It was in my house. Lesson learned I think. He was all talk about meeting up but never arranged anything. .

He'd clearly said he wasn't into BDSM... not that I'd even brought it up..so what

I oscillate wildly between wanting to date and share the love, with thinking I'm an enormous twit with zero appeal.

I wonder what kind of partners or traits our friends would recommend for us?

Reading this thread helped me to understand that my boundaries and expectations aren't unreasonable

Good luck to anyone on a date this weekend. Hope you all have a good time!!

aufaitaccompli · 24/01/2020 19:00

So what .... sorry that makes no sense Confused

saltysally · 24/01/2020 19:04

@aufita welcome. He is copying porn. Sad but true. I'm not skinny and over 40. I'm just upfront. Some guys are okay with it, some aren't. I'm not letting it stop me from dating.

Mr Music messages before he says he next will. It's funny and quite endearing. It's not OTT by any stretch. He did it tonight just to check in. Call number two tomorrow night.

yes I'm taking this threads prize for overinvesting

Marlbs - fab. I'll be over after my call with Mr Music. I could do with a perspective slap while I'm there.

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Peanutbuttermouth · 24/01/2020 19:28

Hmm. I'd play it one of two ways, depending on how you feel about dm continuing to look after dd after the shouting in her face. Either let it die down over the weekend, send an apologetic text assuming you'll make up and carry on as normal and then don't mention it again. Or look for alternative childcare that you feel happy with. I don't know your situation but universal credit pay 85% of childcare costs (pretty sure that applies to you going to college as well as working). Or start doing mutual childcare swaps with friends if you can't afford childcare.

StarryUnicorn · 24/01/2020 19:29

181 ended with discussion on accepting compliments, I realised a little while back that I always deflected compliments, I just couldn't accept them. Deflecting or playing down compliments is invalidating the opinion of the giver, and I think it is probably about maintaining emotional distance (at least for me anyway).

I found that for me, the deflection was just verbal filler, I wasn't expecting to be complimented, and literally had nothing to say back. I decided that whenever I was given a compliment I would consciously look the giver straight in the eye and say "thank you" and would try to add a relevant comment or ideally a return compliment, but not worry if I couldn't.

Most of the time it's just an excuse to talk to you so pausing after saying thank you often seems to result in more compliments Grin

Just having a simple straightforward plan made that aspect of social interaction so much easier and less stressful. I am still working at it, any comments about my looks etc are still tricky for me.

I did find that the first few times I did this, it was quite emotionally intense, almost overwhelming, though this is probably just an indicator of how messed up in the head I am Confused, it has gotten easier over time.

Because making just one specific change felt so different, I actually found it quite easy to keep doing consistently, I think it's one of the only things I have managed to really change about myself and it has been much easier than I thought it would be.

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Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/01/2020 20:08

So hard shitwith is your mum normally shouty around her or was it a one off? If it’s infrequent I would probs take the easy route and tell your mum your sorry (even if your not) free childcare by a loving grandparent is sometimes worth just backing down. If you are worried she shouts at her often then you need to find a Alt childcare. I don’t know what to suggest as mind are in preschool but UC will pay 85% of childcare if it’s so you can work. Sorry lovely that you have more stress!

salty slaps always available here. Mr Music sounds great. I am so pleased for you putting yourself out there in a potentially emotional way 😘

starry you are so right. When I compliment someone and they deflect I feel awkward. I only compliment when it’s true. It’s hard to just accept that someone sees something they like but just saying “aw thanks, that’s so lovely of you to say” actually makes everyone happy.

Notcoolmum · 24/01/2020 20:18

I wouldn't even see this as a date @Marlboroandmalbec34 This is a meeting to discuss whether things could be sufficiently different enough for you two to date. Def no sex. If you want things to be different then you have to act differently. He didn't send you a birthday card. He didn't send a goodnight text...

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/01/2020 20:26

I know notcool the last few days I have suddenly got the goodnight and good morning texts, he told me this eve he is a bit nervous because he is looking forward to seeing me and scared I won’t like him so much in clothes

Notcoolmum · 24/01/2020 20:29

@Sunshineandflipflops I remember someone saying once that there is no such thing as free. And that definitely applies here. If your mum is continuing to do free childcare that means accepting her rules and standards over your own. That's the cost. I would talk it over with her when she's calmer. She will feel attacked and consider she has been doing you a favour. Can your ex cover the costs of childcare. Look into how UC works with childcare costs and an income?

Notcoolmum · 24/01/2020 20:34

That's good about the texts @Marlboroandmalbec34 I hope the talk goes well. Remember to listen. (Sorry if thats patronising. I just wish I had paid more attention).

Sunshineandflipflops · 24/01/2020 20:38

@Notcoolmum I think you tagged the wrong person!

shitwithsugaron · 24/01/2020 20:43

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Notcoolmum · 24/01/2020 20:47

Sorry. Yes was meant for you shitwith. There's always a cost...

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/01/2020 20:52

notcool I totally hear you. I know what you mean it’s hard when you like someone to really listen to what they are saying and not just what you want.

shitwith yep it’s bloody hard work. Hope you sort it with your mum.

kerkyra · 24/01/2020 21:05

Really hope you sort with your mum shit. I was a childminder and nanny for twenty five years so if you need any advice, just ask.
I bet she is feeling awful so perhaps try and sort soon with her.