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PIL and the fall out from Christmas

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ClareVH · 13/01/2020 21:01

DH and I have been married for 15 years and have 2 DC. His family have never liked me, in spite of me being a nice, normal person and trying very hard to include them in our lives, make them feel welcome in our home, etc. I don’t know why they don’t like me, DH has asked them, but they deny it. We barely see them in spite of moving to be closer to them.

One irritating thing that MIL does is, if I ask her a question, she’ll give her answer to DH, not me. I don’t know why she sidelines me like this, but I find it quite hurtful. If I answer his phone, she’ll say, “I want to speak to my son.” Just refuses to speak to me.

It came to a head over Christmas. I texted MIL early in December to suggest that we should get together for Christmas and put forward an idea. She said she’d think about it and get back to me, but never did and we heard nothing from them. They go away a lot and so DH and I assumed they had decided to go away for Christmas. DH was on leave from Christmas Eve. Due to the nature of his job, he had his phone switched off over Christmas and New Year whilst he was on leave. However, my phone was on the whole time.

We expected that PIL would at least call to speak to the DC over Christmas. But we heard nothing. They live very close to us, so could easily have popped in if they were around, after first calling to check that we were in.

After Christmas, we discovered that they had hosted a nice family Christmas with SIL but had not invited us. I sent a text to MIL basically saying how hurt I was that they didn’t invite us and now all hell has broken loose. MIL lied and said she HAD invited us, via DH, but he’d declined. I remember this phone call as MIL was on speakerphone and she most certainly did not invite us. It’s weird, as in spite of her faults, I have never known MIL to lie before.

She then said that they had popped round but we were out. And now the presents are all sitting “sadly under the tree”. It’s like she’s blaming us for being out when they came round, but had she called me before leaving home, we could have arranged a time that we were in.

She also said that she had called many times over Christmas but that we had ignored her calls. She called on DH's phone, which was switched off as he was on leave (she knew this). She didn't then call on my phone, which obviously I would have answered.

She has now told the whole family that they didn’t get to see their GC over Christmas and apparently it’s my fault! The whole family have now turned against me, saying how hurt she is that she didn’t get to see her GC at Christmas and still hasn’t been able to give the DC their presents.

We had a difficult year and I really just wanted a nice big family Christmas. I am feeling really fragile at the moment. I was very ill earlier in the year and now I think I’m suffering from depression, maybe as a side effect of the medication I was on. I cry a lot and struggle to cope. I am trying to work through it and DH is great. No-one else knows as I am very good at pretending everything is OK. The situation with PIL really upsets me. I just wish I knew what the solution was.

Can anybody help me please?

OP posts:
monkeymonkey2010 · 14/01/2020 23:19

Can I ask you to expand on this:... they are massive narcs and have hugely overinflated ego's

They have an overinflated opinion of themselves. They act like their opinions, views, thoughts and way of doing things IS the BEST and ONLY way...and they will never for one minute consider things from other's point of view.
It's a type of personality disorder when our natural narcissistic tendencies turn into a personality trait - especially to this degree.
A regular person might dislike their family member, but will still put on a polite/civil front and play the game of inclusion.
This lot don't and won't - there is something seriously warped in their heads for them to act in such a blatantly nasty and discriminatory manner towards you and your dc - and they show no signs of stopping.

Read up on narcissistic parents, i think your husband will find it particularly illuminating when he looks back at his childhood.

This poem sums up a narc:
A Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it.

ClareVH · 14/01/2020 23:30

@monkey That is all so accurate! Thank you for putting it into words. I am such a mug, though. I’ve put up with this shit for years. But now they are exhibiting the same behaviour with the DC I think it’s time to put a stop to it.

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justilou1 · 15/01/2020 00:42

Seriously, it’s not going to change. It will continue and probably just get worse. Move away and don’t forward details. They’re awful humans.

MonsterKidz · 15/01/2020 00:51

Hi OP,

Sounds like a difficult and upsetting situation. I can only sympathize, it is a situation I can well imagine given my own relationship with my in laws.

I don’t have the answer but I would suggest keeping some distance and having your DH take the lead with them. Do not communicate with them directly yourself, it’s not helping or working.

Good luck

ChicCroissant · 15/01/2020 13:19

Why do you have phone conversations with your DH's family on speakerphone though? He doesn't seem to get a chance to talk to them without you OP - you don't like him going round to see them either.

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