Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Found texts

161 replies

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 17:03

Name changed for this as possibly outing.

So I've found WhatsApp messages on my husbands phone to a female friend.

We have been on the rocks for a while and no longer wear wedding rings.

Friend has known us 10 years and is 15 years younger than 'D'H.

Messages are everyday going back over a year. Many messages a day.

I know they are closer than other people in our friendship group ie interests and hobbies etc.

Messages are everyday subjects to more in-depth conversations.

No mention of I love yous or the like.

Good morning/night messages everyday.

Messages of just 'Xs'

Every message ended with Xxx

Some inappropriate messages about the woman's boobs and his name for them Hmm

Other inappropriate and ambiguous statements.

Compliments from both sides.

Bitching about me and her OH.

One even said don't message yet she has my phone.

Arranging to meet for coffees and lunch.

Ridiculous nicknames for each other.

Very unlikely it's got physical.

Is this an affair?? Close friends? And should I call him out?
There are children on both sides so don't want to rock the boat.

OP posts:
Trinity20 · 05/01/2020 18:27

She slagged you off too ? What has she been saying ? Disgraceful. Really sorry you've had to find this out, they deserve each other and you can do so much better.

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:27

That he doesn't deserve the shit I give him Hmm

That he needs to think about him and the kids etc

OP posts:
PepsiLola · 05/01/2020 18:31

He must have been so secretive for you to never have noticed!
Obv knows he's doing wrong to hide it

Trinity20 · 05/01/2020 18:31

Wow.. So he's making himself out to be some poor hard done by husband 🙄 and you don't deserve the level of disrespect he is showing you. Do you think that if he stopped this and cut her off completely you would want to continue with the marriage ?

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:32

@PepsiLola never noticed so think it was when I was not in the room or vice versa. Or he lied about what he was doing.
Didn't even know they had each other's numbers

OP posts:
snowytrees · 05/01/2020 18:32

"Just friends".... that old chestnut!

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:33

@Trinity20 I honestly don't know. As much I would like to sort things out. I really don't know if I could trust him. Especially around friends. Wouldn't be able to see female friends with him around etc.

OP posts:
usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:34

@snowytrees apparently up until September 2018 they were just friends. Then it changed for some reason.
I don't know what the reason was or why feelings changed etc

OP posts:
Trinity20 · 05/01/2020 18:36

How did the daily texting start, what did they first say to each other ?
That's very understandable, I have never been in that situation but it's not going to be easy to trust him again, and I know there are other men out there who wouldn't dream of doing that to their wife.
I hope for a good outcome for you, and that better things come your way.

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:37

She messaged him for advice on something she was buying (he has experience in the area). Innocent and platonic tbh. No xxx or anything.

And then they never stopped.

OP posts:
Trinity20 · 05/01/2020 18:40

Has he ever been out 'working late' 'with friends' or anything ? Anything suspicious ? I'm very interested to see how he tries to worm his way out of it.

bluebella4 · 05/01/2020 18:41

This is awful. I would be heartbroken! Im sorry sorry this has happened to you!! Why can't men just work it out or just finish it- why they feel the need to go else were while still in a partnership is behond me! I don't get why they need to do things like this.

Will you comfort him? What are you going to do?

I know that any sign my partner has looked else where I'd be away.

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:42

@Trinity20 nope nothing out of the ordinary. But then it's been so long that I'm questioning the last 2 years now.

He mentioned a few times that he would see her in town and grab a coffee with her and then never mentioned it again.

OP posts:
usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:43

I don't think I can stay tbh. Seems like the nail in the coffin.
I can cope with friendly banter etc
But the inappropriate comments and bitching about me I don't think I can

OP posts:
rowrowrowyaboat · 05/01/2020 18:50

No i wouldnt be able to forgive this either. Its an emotional affair with extra disrespect thrown in for good measure.
Id send the messages to her husband, pack his bags, tell him it was over then wait for the shitstorm to start.
Stay in the house, make sure you have all the finances you need and keep your head held high Op, you deserve better than this.

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 18:54

I think I'm worried to cause a shit storm due to kids on both sides.

I always thought an emotional affair was declarations of feelings and sexting. I stand corrected SmileConfused

OP posts:
Screamqueenz · 05/01/2020 18:55

I would definitely send the messages to her husband. He deserves to know the truth as well.
They will try to pass it s a friendship, but it isn't, it's far more than that, at least in their heads.
They will learn that actually reality is a bit different.

usernametaken2675 · 05/01/2020 19:00

They are both seen as generally really lovely people.
Who would be able to convince people it was friendly banter that I threw out of proportion.

I don't think her husband realises tbh

OP posts:
Luckystar777 · 05/01/2020 19:00

Get the screenshots done and keep them safe.

I would be absolutely livid, what they're doing is disgusting. Where is he now? With her?

I would not be surprised if they've already been physical.

Friends don't end all texts to each other with xxx and certainly don't name each others private parts. Ugh.

Sorry they're doing this.

DBML · 05/01/2020 19:04

I’d have to message her and say...

‘Hi Sharon (or whatever her name is). How are George (husband), Sam and Sarah (kiss) and Bob and Barry (Booby’s names)? Hope you’re all really, really well.’

mamato3lads · 05/01/2020 19:05

What???? Hes having an affair...some messages were just "xxx"? Kisses? Are you serious? That's not banter. Nor is saying good morning and good night and telling her not to text because YOU have the phone ? That's an affair
Emotional at the very least

Good God. I'd fucking kill my husband .... or divorce him at least.

DBML · 05/01/2020 19:05

*kids not kiss - autocorrect 😡

MsDogLady · 05/01/2020 19:10

This is an emotional affair with sexual elements:

Secrecy
Constant level of contact, multi-layered conversations, kisses, pet names
Sexual comments, naming OW’s breasts

Degrading comments about spouses
Laughing at you
Meeting up 1:1
Pushing for holiday get-together as excuse to see her

Your H is making a fool of you. He is prioritizing OW and they have developed romantic emotional intimacy. He wants it to go physical and it likely will if they are meeting up. He will minimize and insist that this is friendship, but it is absolutely an affair.

This is all on him and his selfish pursuit of an illicit ego boost. A rough patch does not give him permission to cheat and demean you. I would tell him to leave as a consequence of his betrayal, as you need space to consider your options. I would also tell and show evidence to OW’s DH.

Betterbegoing · 05/01/2020 19:17

Practical suggestion, it’s easier to film the screen when it’s a lot of messages and scroll through, pausing as you go. Easier than hundreds of individual screenshots.
This is an emotional affair. I’m sorry this has happened to you.

P999 · 05/01/2020 19:24

Can you arrange to see the husband face to face?

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.

Swipe left for the next trending thread