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Husband left for woman half his age.

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Apricot10 · 14/12/2019 18:31

Just that really.
He has left me for a 25 year old. He is 40 next month.
We have two children 6 and 9. My DS is Autistic. So I have been left with two children who can't understand why he has gone, especially my DS.
He has moved in with her, so I said I wasn't happy with the children visiting his place as they need more time to adjust to us being apart before he introduces anyone else.
So he is taking them to their grandparents when he has them.
He told me all of this by text. Won't give me her name said I might stalk her. (Like I have the time if I wanted to)
We were together 18 years married 11. I am totally devastated. Just been wrapping presents crying my eyes out.
I just feel so helpless and desperate.
I can't look at him, I feel sick when I do. I loved him for so many years. Why do they do this? What can he surely have in common with this girl?
Sad

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ScreamingLadySutch · 19/03/2020 15:09

Apricot10 first can I say you are MAGNIFICENT.

Your story resonates with so much of us here. Why are depressed men (and he clearly is depressed) SO DESTRUCTIVE? WHY do they blow up everything that is important in order NOT to deal with their depression?

The psychiatrist who first took an interest in affairs and tried to work out why they happen:

"Romantic Infidelity

Surely the craziest and most destructive form of infidelity is the temporary insanity of falling in love. You do this, not when you meet somebody wonderful (wonderful people don't screw around with married people) but when you are going through a crisis in your own life, can't continue living your life, and aren't quite ready for suicide yet. An affair with someone grossly inappropriate—someone decades younger or older, someone dependent or dominating, someone with problems even bigger than your own—is so crazily stimulating that it's like a drug that can lift you out of your depression and enable you to feel things again. Of course, between moments of ecstasy, you are more depressed, increasingly alone and alienated in your life, and increasingly hooked on the affair partner. Ideal romance partners are damsels or "dumsels" in distress, people without a life but with a lot of problems, people with bad reality testing and little concern with understanding reality better.

Romantic affairs lead to a great many divorces, suicides, homicides, heart attacks, and strokes, but not to very many successful remarriages. No matter how many sacrifices you make to keep the love alive, no matter how many sacrifices your family and children make for this crazy relationship, it will gradually burn itself out when there is nothing more to sacrifice to it. Then you must face not only the wreckage of several lives, but the original depression from which the affair was an insane flight into escape.

People are most likely to get into these romantic affairs at the turning points of life: when their parents die or their children grow up; when they suffer health crises or are under pressure to give up an addiction; when they achieve an unexpected level of job success or job failure; or when their first child is born—any situation in which they must face a lot of reality and grow up. The better the marriage, the saner and more sensible the spouse, the more alienated the romantic is likely to feel. Romantic affairs happen in good marriages even more often than in bad ones.

Both genders seem equally capable of falling into the temporary insanity of romantic affairs, though women are more likely to reframe anything they do as having been done for love. Women in love are far more aware of what they are doing and what the dangers might be. Men in love can be extraordinarily incautious and willing to give up everything. Men in love lose their heads—at least for a while."

  • Dr Frank Pittman

www.psychology...lection=60696

Seaside1234 · 19/03/2020 15:14

Why are depressed men (and he clearly is depressed) SO DESTRUCTIVE? WHY do they blow up everything that is important in order NOT to deal with their depression?

Soooooooo true (that was essentially my experience with my husband's affair). Beautifully put @ScreamingLadySutch

Apricot10 · 19/03/2020 21:10

God that's so true, Ex is clearly very unhappy. Funny how it says it follows a significant life event. I have spent the past two years seeing my dad through cancer treatment, and just before he left me I had just been told my dad was being sent home on palliative care.
It's like he thought "shit she is going to need some serious support in the next few months, best getting shagging a a woman half my age." My dad is doing okay now, by no means out of the woods, but he is hanging in there.
Ex told me he wasn't happy with her, wasn't happy in his flat. She didn't love him, and it was all just an adventure for her. But he has gone back to her because he knows there is nothing here for him anymore.

They deserve each other, their little adventure together blew my world apart, it devastated two young children. But we move forward, (well, we will in 11 days when we can leave the house) Hmm

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popsydoodle4444 · 19/03/2020 23:27

@Apricot10

I've been following this thread from the start.So many people predicted the ex and his mid life crisis shag wouldn't last because they'd be at odds with each other's lifestyles and maturity levels.Looks like karma is biting them both on the ass.

I sincerely hope that one day when you're ready you'll meet a man you will treat you like the absolute queen you are.

Gutterton · 19/03/2020 23:55

OMG it’s much worse than I thought. I am so sorry that you in your darkest hour of need that selfish arse deserted you. What an emotionally stunted fool. Coward.

I bet you have been running this ship for years? That’s why you are coping and doing well - because, well, you always have been coping and doing all of the emotional heavy lifting throughout.

I am so sorry about your poor Dad.

I just have to ask why is he bringing you stuff? This is a chink. Don’t let him in - because he will hurt you again and again.

You need distance and detachment if you want to move on. How do you know the details of the possible split, the split and the reconciliation with the GF? Are you listening and encouraging it? Were you hoping they would finish and he would come begging?

Where are you with the divorce paperwork?

I am sorry if these are uncomfortable blunt Qs. You don’t have to answer them - you might not immediately know the answers - but it will give you some clue as to what is really going on with you, where your boundaries actually are and therefore where you are vulnerable to hurt.

I really don’t want to hurt or offend. You are a wonderful powerhouse of a mother and I am so sorry that you have so much to face.

I hope your DF is comfortable and you have some calm and happy times with him.

justilou1 · 20/03/2020 01:55

Wait until he finds out what he can afford when you file and he gets hit with proper CMS and back pay the little twerp.

lmcneil003 · 20/03/2020 07:25

He sounds mixed up and mentally fragile.
While he has treated you v v v poorly, please be aware of his fragility.
You are definitely the stronger and better person, but he is still the children's father.

LJenn · 20/03/2020 07:44

Just want to see what his reaction is when he gets served his divorce papers. Bet he thinks that being "nice" to you that you'll have second thoughts. How does he even manage to get talking to you about the new GF???? 🤔🤔 lol he genuinely thinks you're friends and he can open up to you.

springydaff · 20/03/2020 08:07

Fuck his so-say 'mental fragility', frankly Hmm

Gutterton · 20/03/2020 09:57

Well said springdaff

He has not shown any behaviours parental at all. He has abandoned his children, one SN - he has not in all of this time stepped up to any financial or access certainty - he has let them down time and time again - leaving them so distraught that the OP has had to for go any shared parenting.

He lost his “father” status a looooooong time ago.

He doesn’t sound mentally fragile - quite to opposite - he must be mentally bolstered as for the last 6 months he has been hunkered down in his little love bubble getting his ego and cock stroked by a 25 year old which he is able to indulge in 24/7 without any distraction as he has abandoned all adult and parenting responsibilities. He doesn’t even pay bills - he must think he is in Love Island.

The twat.

Don’t worry about him he is bursting with pleasure at the cost of immediate day to day extreme emotional pain and injury to his DCs which they will negatively impact their life journey.

yesterdaystotalsteps123 · 20/03/2020 12:37

Can you start a blog while you are isolating? Update us on your DIY and give relationship advice? I think you'd be really good at it

Apricot10 · 20/03/2020 16:55

Hi everyone! Self isolating is boring the hell out of us. 10 more days to go!
Kids are doing okay, I work from home anyway so its business as usual but my god it is harder than I ever thought not being able to just pop to the shops.
@Gutterton obviously I haven't seen him as we locked down, he texts me about GF I just ignore it.
@lmcneil003 I agree he is very fragile. I am not giving him an inch but it doesn't mean I have to unkind to him either. I just don't respond.
I haven't seen my DF since Aug as he has basically been in isolation himself because of chemo, he 4 hours away. We were due to go and visit for a week over Easter and he was going to take the kids fishing now he is a bit stronger. Bit obviously that has all been cancelled for the foreseeable future. We won't be visiting until this whole virus sods off.

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Seaside1234 · 20/03/2020 17:09

Yep, the significant life event is very true - H was diagnosed with a chronic and serious illness that gave significant pain issues that could have been permanent, and he basically thought 'fuck it, life is now over and shit, it doesn't matter what I do' - in his own words, it was like the last days of Rome. His depression and occasional issues with alcohol kicked in, he started an affair and essentially went completely off the rails. If I hadn't found out about the affair, which slapped him back into reality, I don't know how it would have ended up.

Apricot10 · 20/03/2020 22:24

@Seaside1234 God that is crazy. I firmly believe my ex was planning it anyway and he used that time to think I was distracted (utterly traumatised) enough to sneak off.
I spent 2 years thinking my dad was going to die, I am very close with him. I really struggled with it and ex was very practical saying he would do what was needed to make sue I could be with him as much a possible etc, but not once did he hug me. I think this whole affair started while I was going through this with my dad, it was incredibly stressful time had trouble with a very melodramatic Stepmother. It was hard.
And just as it peaked off he popped. Yeah, I won't be going back there. It was very difficult for my dad as he adored my ex like a son, so I didn't tell him for a while because I didn't want him to die thinking I was alone,I didn't want him dying worrying about me. My ex has no idea what he did, it goes way beyond him shagging another woman. He did it in such a way I couldn't seek help from my family and that is the most unforgivable part. Yikes! Sorry that was deep!
Off to bed, my friend is picking up some paint for me tomorrow and dropping it on my doorstep so I can paint my hallway! It's my DS birthday next weekend too, so we are having a lockdown birthday! Poor kid! HmmGrin

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Apricot10 · 20/03/2020 22:25

Ps my DF doing fine now. He called me today to tell me he had ordered £100 worth of ready meals from some company who put a leaflet through his door. He was well chuffed.😂

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justilou1 · 21/03/2020 01:27

I suspect the biggest betrayal was him nurturing the relationship with OW while you were at your most vulnerable and doing the parenting of your children and nurturing his “fragile mental health” - he is an emotional vampire you don’t need anymore.

Apricot10 · 21/03/2020 08:14

@justilou1 exactly that. The one time I needed to be propped up and he was no doubt setting the scene with her in this big adventure, where they can be "star crossed lovers escaping to their hovel of a flat because all they need is eachother" it's laughable.

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Buggedandconfused · 21/03/2020 10:30

Can you imagine the sheer hell that little love nest will be now?! Omg karma, stupid man.

justilou1 · 21/03/2020 12:32

Rats nest is a more apt description

Guiltypleasures001 · 21/03/2020 12:58

Op

If they have to be in isolation together, it's gonna kick off
He's trying to use you as his sounding board re their relationship
Because he thinks you are friend, he hasn't fully cottoned on
To your relationship with him being finished, and changed irreconcilably

He's still in his partial loved up bubble, as I said when this started for you
It's a fantasy world he has built, that has to work for him, otherwise the
Reality will be very hard for him to countenance and deal with

Be prepared to be several stages ahead of him, and him wanting to cling to you and become angry that you have moved on so quickly in his eyes.

It's gonna be you never loved me obviously if you have moved on so quick
bla bla, hence justifying in his mind he was right to leave.

He's got so much shit to come op, honestly just sit back and at watch
💐

springydaff · 21/03/2020 12:58

😁

springydaff · 21/03/2020 13:00

^^laughing at 'rats nest' 😂

Apricot10 · 21/03/2020 13:15

Haha. Rats nest!! I have seen photos of the place he is living. Obviously googled it on right move when he gave me his address. It is a horrible and he will have to work from home with her there constantly as she works in a theatre so obviously it is closed.
Daft sod should've not done the dirty on me! I am well good fun in a lockdown! Actually no lock in, I am fun in a lock in! 😂 sorry I am day 5 of self isolation with the kids I think I am losing the plot! Confused

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Buggedandconfused · 21/03/2020 18:53

Well he made his bed now he can lie in it. The honeymoon period sounds like it’s well and truly over for them anyway.. reality will now bite very harshly fir him 😂

Homebird8 · 21/03/2020 19:02

I am well good fun in a lockdown! Actually no lock in, I am fun in a lock in!

You sound it. We need a bit of humour 😂

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