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Reconciliation after estrangement?

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Albinoni · 30/11/2019 10:39

I have NC'd for this but have posted in the past about my relationship with DD1 and was grateful for the advice and support which I received. The posts have since been deleted, at my request, but some of you may remember 'Lobster Boy', and my concerns that DD was in a controlling relationship and that I risked losing her.

Unfortunately, my fears were justified as DD seemed to become more and more withdrawn from the family, saying that her BF was her family now. She ghosted all of the family entirely for six months - apparently she just blocked us all - then there were occasional calls and she did send birthday cards etc. She moved house without providing an address and we didn't see her for two and a half years. I cannot begin to describe how painful that period was for me and DH and her sisters, but those of you who have been through this process of living bereavement will understand.

Anyway, the good news is that there has been a reconciliation following a lunch on neutral ground, in a restaurant, earlier this year (she lives hundreds of miles away from us). Prior to that, she had provided her address, so that we could send some books to her which are relevant to a course which she is intending to take next year. At the lunch, she said that they had married the previous year, and we said how pleased we were, and contact continued to improve.

The following month they asked if they could borrow some money to put towards buying a property and we agreed. Shortly after that, DD told me she was expecting a baby (due any day now), which I was overjoyed about. Then, a few weeks after that - and this is the part I am really struggling with - we received a letter from DD and SIL enclosing photos of the 14 month old which they already had. The accompanying letter was quite upsetting as it said they hadn't told us about DGC because they didn't want her to experience broken relationships and they hadn't been sure whether or not they wanted us involved at all, but they felt guilty at taking our money and not telling us about DGC.

DD and I subsequently had an emotional conversation and, since then, DD has been in contact with me virtually every day with messages and photos and is behaving almost as though nothing has happened. She says I can't think about the past or what I have missed and clearly wants to move forward. I know that she is right in that we cannot change the past and she assures me that she definitely does want us to be involved.

But I am in such turmoil over this. Obviously I am thrilled and excited about the reconciliation and the DGC, but I feel so desperately hurt and upset that she didn't tell any of us about all of these things, especially as I believed that we were close before. I am really struggling, to be honest, although it's early days and there is a lot to come to terms with.

We haven't met DGC1 yet as I think we both felt that it would be better to wait for the baby to be born and then meet them both together, when the emotions have died down a bit. The last thing I want to do is cause her any stress at this time and I sense that they are anxious at our meeting her PILs for the first time. I am also anxious about it, although they sound like lovely people and have been very supportive to DD. But goodness knows what they must think of us. I am also worried about becoming attached to the DGC in case they are taken away from me. I just couldn't put myself through all that again.

So I was wondering if anyone could give me advice if you have been in a similar situation. How easy was it to reconcile? Did the whole family reconcile or was it a piecemeal process? Did you involve any professional help, such as a counsellor or family mediator? Has it worked out? Are things the same and can the relationship ever really recover or is it just different? I really don't want to mess this up, as I have realised how fragile relationships can be, but I am feeling a bit overwhelmed.

OP posts:
Albinoni · 20/03/2020 18:23

Random, that's exactly what I said - Sorry but I feel too emotionally fragile to speak on the telephone because of Dad, but perhaps speak at the weekend, hope you are all well, big hugs to my lovely granddaughters.

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strawberry2017 · 20/03/2020 18:25

Sending you lots of love and strength, you are doing so well holding it together for your family. X

Gutterton · 20/03/2020 18:32

This is shocking news Albinoni - I am so so sorry. Another savage blow for you all.

Please just hunker down with your lovely DH and get some rest.

The incessant white noise of this couples histrionic, narcissistic, toxic nonsense needs to be stopped right now.

Send one vanilla text to say that you are both turning off your phones for the next day or so to come to terms with this latest turn of events and you will give her a call on Sunday.

SirVixofVixHall · 20/03/2020 18:45

I am so very sorry Albinoni.
I hope that your DH is able to access chemo and that it helps him.
❤️ To you.

springydaff · 20/03/2020 18:55

Oh no, I'm so very sorry Albinoni. This is so hard ❤️🌺

Thinking of you very much. I hope DH gets the chemo 💐

Grohnjant · 20/03/2020 19:16

Oh Albinoni
So so sorry . What absolutely terrible news. There are no words . You are in my thoughts 💐 💐 💐

billybagpuss · 20/03/2020 19:45

My heart goes out to you 💕

forrestgreen · 20/03/2020 19:45

Awful news. So sorry

mcmooberry · 20/03/2020 20:37

Oh no @Albinoni I was dreading you getting news like this. I wish I could come up with something uplifting to say but this is so disheartening and so against everything that we were hoping to hear that all I can say is how sorry I am and how much I hope that he is one of the 30% who can be helped. Thinking of you all and will be quietly here with everyone else if talking on this thread helps you in any way XX

PlainBritishFlour · 20/03/2020 21:04

I am so so sorry to you and your wonderful family.
Please please take care of yourself.

LadyEloise · 20/03/2020 21:41

Albinoni
Thinkingnofbyou and wishing your dh the very best outcome. Thanks

Bridetobe920 · 20/03/2020 21:54

I’ve just RTFT, I’m so terribly sorry for your latest update OP. My heart goes out to you and your loved ones FlowersFlowersFlowers

categoricallycrackers · 20/03/2020 22:02

So sorry @albinoni. I hope your DH defies the odds x

Wallywobbles · 20/03/2020 22:58

Such a lot of courage to you all now. Take care of yourself if you can. Make the most of every day with DH. Don't put anything off.

If he feels able perhaps he could write some stuff for your DDs. Letters or notebooks. No matter what the future holds it's good to put memories down.

Best wishes to you all

BendyLikeBeckham · 21/03/2020 07:41

I'm so sorry to hear that gut wrenching news. You must be absolutely devastated. I wish I had some comforting words but nothing would be right, and if you are like me, then trite cliches just make me want to punch someone.

I hope you make use of McMillan, even just for someone to talk to about this. They were so great when my DM had cancer.

BluebellCockleshell123 · 21/03/2020 07:59

What terrible news Albinoni. I cannot imagine the turmoil you are in and how you are coping. My heart truly goes out to you.

Wishing you and all your family strength & fortitude but please remember to ask for help when you need it. MacMillan and Maggies are wonderful resources for anyone who is directly or indirectly affected by cancer. Sometimes it is easier to talk to someone outside of your family and friends. Flowers

Ghostontoast · 21/03/2020 08:22

Very sorry for the latest news Flowers.

DH’s friend has just been diagnosed with the same type of cancer, only early 60s and very sporty.

5LeafClover · 21/03/2020 09:12

So sorry to hear your news. This has all been so quick your head must be everywhere at once. Thinking of you all and sending very best wishes to dh FlowersFlowersFlowers.

Okki · 21/03/2020 11:49

I'm so very sorry to hear that news. I hope that more chemo is available. From a practical perspective, we found protein drinks were good to have in. When my Dad was ill they were a great help on keeping his calorie intake up when meds etc made him feel less like eating.

You're all in my thoughts.

billybagpuss · 23/03/2020 06:59

Hope you had as good a weekend as possible under the circumstances 💐

Albinoni · 23/03/2020 08:56

Thank you everybody for your kind supportive posts and please forgive me for not replying individually.

The weekend was ok, better than expected. DH is - touch wood - coping with the chemotherapy very well so far and is entirely himself. I wasn't sure what to expect but, for the moment, everything is just the same. It is almost easy to block out the reality of the diagnosis and, in a way, that's the best thing to do - to just live for the day. We are together and as happy as we always are. If anything, the diagnosis has made us even closer and DH gave me a lovely card for Mother's Day, saying he loved me more than ever (which made me very weepy, but also grateful).

DDs 2 & 3 arranged for some flowers to be delivered and DD3, who opted to stay in London so not to put us at risk, face-timed on Saturday and Sunday. Apparently, one of her close friends has just come down with the virus, so she is sure that she made the right decision in not visiting, but misses us all a lot. She was so worried about DH but also about DD2 and me, as we are both asthmatic, so in the 'at risk' category. However, she plans to come in 14 days (if London has not been locked down by then).

I am proposing to try to keep busy, at is the best thing to do, and keep looking at the grass out of the window and saying 'I will cut you tomorrow' Grin. DD2 has a list of films for us to watch so the enforced isolation has its upside, that we spend time together and just do simple things. I also have the latest Hilary Mantel (courtesy of DD2), which should keep me out of mischief for a while, and we were lucky enough to have an Ocado order on Friday, so we have plenty to eat.

DD1 called on Saturday and we spoke for a while. she seemed different somehow, or perhaps it is wishful thinking. About half way through the call she wanted to swap to FaceTime, so she could see me, and did look quite 'loving', asked how I was feeling because she knows how much I love DH and said she was 'there' for me. She had DGD2 with her, who is very sweet.

DD1 said that they hadn't sent any Mother's Day cards and hoped that was ok. I said fine, it's how you treat people all year that counts (any irony was lost but I didn't say it in any barbed or malicious way, just trying to be positive). I said it was her Mother's Day too, but she said that she wasn't expecting anything and that she thought it was a day for reflection. In fact, she used the word 'reflection' twice, so perhaps she genuinely is reflective - who knows? I was a bit reluctant to pick up the phone, to be honest, but it was better that I did.

She said how pleased she was that we had visited and is convinced that DGD1 remembers us, especially DH. She sent a video in which she said that DGD1 was talking about him, which may be true, but may well be not. However, clearly that is what she wants to believe. I said we might visit in July depending how everything was, but she was quite non-committal. I doubt we will anyway, for lots of reasons, and probably it is better to keep things as they are, at least for now.

I am pleased that we made the visit, as is DH, and it is fortunate that we went when we did, as it was probably the last opportunity, but I am not terribly keen for a repeat just yet, even without all the other stuff going on with DH's health and the virus etc. Upon reflection, LB's parents were nice and I am sure that they meant well - which is all that matters, really - but I think perhaps his mother was a bit insensitive in keep telling me how DD1 was like her daughter, given that she knew that I had hardly seen or heard from her for several years. I think, if I were in their shoes, I would have maybe handled it a bit differently, as I have inevitably been dwelling on it and thinking that she is DD's mother now and the DGDs' grandmother. But there is no point in such negative thoughts. We went, it was fine, now we are back and have other things to focus on. By striking some sort of amicable contact, it lessens the emotional burden, which I don't have the energy for right now.

Ghost, so sorry to hear about your DH's friend, keeping everything crossed for him.

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RandomMess · 23/03/2020 10:16

Glad you are enjoying the upsides.

Sadly it sounds like LB isn't bothering with DDs Birthday, Mother's Day etc... pretty classic for his personality type.

Grohnjant · 23/03/2020 12:02

Glad DH is tolerating the treatment well. Long may it continue .

Sounds like DD2 , DD3 and DH are so appreciative of you as a mother and wife .

With regard to the way LB’s DM behaved I think we often judge others by our own standards and you are clearly a positive , sensitive and forgiving person so to you ( and actually to a lot of us ) her comments are insensitive at best and mean at worst . She clearly doesn’t have your capacity for empathy .DD 1 will know that and will also know deep down that she is in in no way a match or substitute for you.

Glad you are enjoying precious time together. You amaze me with your ability to see the positives .
Sending love to you all .
Hope you get to see DD3 soon but of course protecting you DD2 and DH is paramount.
💐 💐 💐

SirVixofVixHall · 23/03/2020 14:20

Echoing everything Grohnjant has said above.
Very glad to hear that your DH is tolerating the chemo well, that is brilliant. Also glad that you had a lovely day even with everything you are dealing with.

titnomatani · 23/03/2020 14:28

I was just cleaning and remembered I hadn't checked in to see how you were doing Albinoni. Glad to hear your family is well and your DH is tolerating his treatment of chemo- praying for his speedy recovery. Having thought about what you've written, I think any contact from DD1 is genuine when she's in the moment of actually contacting you but then LB must derail her and remind her of how 'bad' her family is so must feel torn between the two but to keep face, support him and carry on with his plan. I think she is embarrassed at how she's treated you all and does want to be welcomed back which is why she sends inane messages just so she can keep in contact. As well as looking after the rest of your family, please also be kind to yourself too. You've been through the mill and need to rest and recuperate.

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