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How long before a crush becomes a problem?

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Mrticklelives · 30/10/2019 20:03

I have a crush on my friend who I've known for about eight years.

We were close enough to talk about our lives fairly intimately but not close enough for us to message each other. We know each through mutual friends. We all do a hobby together.

I've always thought he was attractive but we were both in relationships when I met him so it was more of a passing observation than an actual attraction.

He's always treated me with a lot of respect and care, borderline flirty but not enough that I felt uncomfortable. The kids would call it 'banter'.

We are both still with our partners. Last year, we were out with the hobby group and had too much to drink and although nothing happened, something seemed to change fundamentally about the way we interacted with each other. Long hugs and looks.

If either of us had pushed it, something might have happened but we were both smart enough or not dumb enough not to cross that line.

The problem is since then I can't get him out of my head.

I have pulled right back when we see each other. I don't share my life with him. I don't giggle and chat with him like we used it.

I've noticed him pulling back too (good!) he avoids me more than he used to and doesn't go out of his way to talk to me. If we happen to be alone together, he will make minimal conversation.

But then when I'm talking to other people , he keeps jumping into the conversation and saying nice things about me. I respond as briefly as possible because I don't understand why he does that.

I took a break from the hobby for family reasons but when I met up with them, it was pretty obvious he'd been talking about me with the others. One of the other blokes was like 'oh yea, Nigel thinks a hell of a lot of you. He really rates you.' Wtf?

I do like that he thinks that way but it's 100% wrong. I know it, I surely wish I didn't feel like this. It's wrong.

He was my friend before all of this so I still like him as a person even though I know I can't be close with him again like before.

I am resisting myself completely but it's not working! I've tried and for what feels like a long long time now.

I would leave the group but the hobby isn't one you can just up and leave. It costs money and without being too outing, I have big responsibilities.

I think about him a lot even I tell myself everytime it's a no, a non issue and not to keep thinking about it.

I'm really wondered it be a mental health issue?

I really need to talk to people who have gone through this.

How long before my feelings and reactions catch up to my rational brain?

If you read to the end thank you so much.

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Macandcheeseplease · 02/12/2019 18:52

No judgement here @bathwaterblues. This is a thread for support and and outlet for when there's no one in real life you can talk to. Definitely feels better to realise other people are going through the same things.

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Pookypoo · 02/12/2019 19:06

@bathwaterblues please don’t meet him, block him now. I’m speaking from experience here.

I met a man three years ago in exactly the same circumstances, I’ve now just gone no contact and I’m heartbroken.

I would urge anyone to stay away from anyone already married or in a relationship. Absolutely no judgement from me, just a plea for you to stop now.

My mental health has been severely affected over the years and I’m in quite a lot of emotional pain right now, with absolutely no one to talk to about it.

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looop · 02/12/2019 19:21

Mrticklelives You are so right. I do wish a lot of time he would be honest, and say what he really feels, but as you say it wouldn't change anything if he did reciprocate my feelings. We can't be anything more than we are.

bathwaterblues No judgement from me. I know that if he ever made more of a move, or was more open about he feels, I wouldn't be able to resist.
I too think why have I met this person now, how can I feel so strongly? How can he seem so perfectly matched to me, yet I've been with someone else for years, built a life with that person, but I constantly think about how different things would be with him. And not in a bad way. How awful is that?
I'm not sure if meeting with him, is the best idea, but I can't say I wouldn't do the same Confused

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bathwaterblues · 02/12/2019 20:05

The reason I want to meet is to see if there is anything there and I'm hoping we decide we aren't after the same thing and leave it at that.
It's curiosity I guess
Whether I will feel worse or better after I don't know

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Aminuts23 · 02/12/2019 20:30

I went through this in the past when I was in a relationship. I never ever cheated but I thought I was in love with someone else. I thought he was my soulmate. We spoke every day, he was funny, he helped me emotionally and practically.
It made me look at my relationship and realise it was over. I couldn’t stay with him whilst feeling like that about another man. I left and set up on my own.
The friendship continued and I started to think it was inevitable we would get together. I had intense thoughts about him all the time.
A couple of months later I told him how I felt. He told me then, and only then, he had a GF and he was sorry he hadn’t said.
The grieving was absolutely intense. Probably grieving both ‘relationships’. I never regretted my decision to leave my ex at all, it was totally right and I’ve never looked back. Me and the OM have managed to retain a friendship of sorts but nothing like the same as it was.
This post is not at all to judge. I totally understand. I get it. Mine gave me the kick I needed to leave but please anyone thinking of taking this further, it might be based on lies. It probably would be. I don’t regret my crush now (years later) but it was incredibly painful at the time Flowers

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awishes · 02/12/2019 21:38

@bathwaterblues
You will wreck your current relationship for sure. Mumsnet is full of stories of men who just think differently to women! He will flatter you and say all the right things and you will feel wonderful but in fact you will be emotionally cheating on your partner.

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Mrticklelives · 02/12/2019 21:54

@Aminuts23 I'm glad you came out stronger after that, it seems hard.

@bathwaterblues I won't judge you. it seems like something will definitely happen between you if you meet up. Are you prepared for the consequences of that?

@looop once I accepted that he liked me as a fact everything became easier. When I catch him doing those not-quite-friends things, I just feel smug like 'ha! I knew it!' Rather than wondering which leads to pining.

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crosstalk · 02/12/2019 22:39

I had this with a colleague I occasionally worked with. Alas, it turned out he had this with every other colleague. What I realized before it was too late was that he was not as amusing, kind or clever as my DP (with whom I was having difficulties). But the sexual attraction and kick from it was very strong including all the glances across the room, increased by the thwarting of resolution. Like being a teenager again.

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bathwaterblues · 03/12/2019 07:04

Thank you for all the replies. I know I should block and step away. But I can't...

I won't jeopardise my marriage by doing anything with this man. We live locally and there is literally nowhere we can go without being found out. So a broad daylight cup of tea meet up seems the best idea. We can talk and see how we feel but we def can't then act on any urges!

We do live miles apart but I guess we are both well known in our area so I'm going to choose a place in the middle and just "meet a pal for coffee" if anyone spots us I'll introduce him as an old school friend.

Then I hope we decide nothing is going to happen and we go back to our lives and go no contact. And I am hoping for that result. I think I want closure to get rid of these feelings. I don't know this man at all I haven't seen him for 25 years so I know nothing about him.

Perhaps I am being totally naive and that won't happen but I have to find out. I know I am emotionally cheating on dh and I don't want to do this long term but I have to know what if....

I don't see dh and I growing old together. I never have. We get on really well and we parent together but without that we are just two people living together. He seems happy with the status quo but if nothing comes of OM then I need to change that. We need to work on our relationship because my eyes have been opened to how I should feel about the man I love. And I don't have that spark anymore which is really sad. I'm guessing if I did, I wouldn't have feelings for someone else.

Sorry that was long.

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AlwaysMessingUp · 03/12/2019 08:14

Gosh, glad to have found this thread. I am in the middle of this too and can't believe I am about to disclose this to people I don't know via the Internet, but there is no one IRL I can talk to about it.

Similar thing - mutual hobby. The person in question is a woman, which is a big curve ball for me. Have been with my DH - happily, mostly - for 15 years or so.

Nothing has happened between me and her. It is a huge, huge crush on my part that has taken up so much mental and emotional energy and time. It is making me unhappy, jealous and needy.

I could quit my hobby and go totally NC. But just in the last couple of weeks I am hoping there are signs it is lessening. This is because I am finally realising she is not the amazing person I thought she was. No one would be, but I have recently seen a different side of her and I am not sure I like it all that much.

It is just horrible. So intense and soul destroying. I feel for everyone in a similar position. Perhaps I should just drop my hobby and walk away.

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KirstyHasLeft · 03/12/2019 08:36

@AlwaysMessingUp - I'm at the same stage of things as you now. It is so soul destroying but I'm slowly starting to get out of it.
Took me more than a year and made me realise I am not as straight as I previously thought. But whatever.
Hugs to you Biscuit

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AlwaysMessingUp · 03/12/2019 09:16

You too @KirstyHasLeft Biscuit

In all honesty, it wouldn't be any better or worse if it was a bloke. The whole thing is miserable in any event!

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looop · 03/12/2019 17:38

Mrticklelives I don't know if I can get to that, though I'll admit I do occasionally feel a bit smug, when he gives signs he does reciprocate.
But I don't know for sure.
But then I think he must feel something, to have said to me that he keeps his distance from everyone but me. That he has the most 'fun' with me, I'm the only one he 'mucks around with',that I'm the one he comes to talk about personal stuff. He's known in the team as quite flaky and distant. Someone not interested in opening up, yet he's never been like that with me.
I twigged quite early on, that I was getting a different version to what everyone else was. When I relayed this back to my friend, she said it was him telling me that I 'mean something to him' Blush Whether that be as a friend, or something more.
I do an awful lot of to-ing and throwing for sure. But as you say; what does it matter? Nothing can change.

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Mrticklelives · 04/12/2019 19:45

I'm really struggling today. This galas coming up and it's just a minefield.

He helps with the planning. He's been getting me soft drinks and giving quite hopeful smiles and I just want to fucking kiss him.

@kirstyhasleft I'm sorry it's been hard, do you think you're straight or bi or gay?

@looop I hope you're okay

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looop · 04/12/2019 20:05

Mrticklelives Oh gosh, I can feel the agony!
I'm getting more anxious about next Friday.
Today hasn't been good for me either, and he's not even around! Feeling quite down today about it all, and wondering how I'm going to get over my feelings and stop him having such emotional power over me Sad
He's so out of reach, I can't even have the friendship I want with him, let alone anything else.
I hope tomorrow is better for you. Try and keep your resolve.

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KirstyHasLeft · 04/12/2019 20:41

@Mrticklelives I am lost and confused Confused.

I think I'm gay but maybe a little bit bi. I remember being teenager and having crushes on women and thinking -'if only I was gay' but I was adamant I was straight.. hahaha

Anyway, as hellish as this crush has been for me (it nearly cost me my marriage), one thing I have taken from it - I'm not straight and it's ok.
Another thing - my crush clearly liked me back for a while - it gave me some self confidence. If this amazing human saw something in me - even for a little while - not all is lost in my life. Obviously I do realise that she is not that amazing and I am not that rubbish. It's just having this crazy crush on her made me believe that I am not worthy of her attention and someone as awesome as her would never ever look at me twice. Rubbish. She did look at me twice. :)

Anyway, I am slowly weaning myself off her. I saw her today and had the usual feeling of being kicked in the stomach but then I didn't think of her much for the rest of the day. I am so proud of myself for finally coming out on the other end of it!

It feels a little bit like leaving abusive relationship. You know you have to end it but it's still so hard and you don't believe you can do it because you have no strength left in you. But then you do it and it's scary at first but then slowly you start seeing life in all the beautiful colours again. Only then you fully realise what hell you have been through.

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AlwaysMessingUp · 05/12/2019 14:04

@KirstyHasLeft ah, I feel for you. I had girl crushes when I was a teenager but this is something else entirely. It sounds like you're starting to come through to the other side re your crush. I am trying too but it is so hard. However, I hate the control this is having over me and need to start taking some more steps...

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bathwaterblues · 05/12/2019 19:58

So I went to meet him. It was as intense as the first night we met. He's so lovely and we were both so nervous which reassured me he isn't a player!

I can't stop thinking about him. We have been messaging a lot and neither of us has slept or hardly eaten all week.

I don't know what to do. I want to tell dh it's over but it will break him. And my poor kids will be heartbroken and my family life will be over. My in laws will hate me, we are so close too.

How can I be so selfish? It's literally choose happiness for me or for them. This sucks.

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bathwaterblues · 05/12/2019 20:10

To be clear we aren't having an affair. I want to see him again but I don't want to go behind dh's back (again).

I want to end things now. I feel like I shouldn't stay with dh if I can feel so attracted to another man.

But I can't do it to him. And if it's all for nothing then what? I have thrown away a good marriage and made so many people miserable for no good. Sad

It only gives me one option to cut all contact and stay where I am. But what about what I want and how I want to spend the rest of my life? Shouldn't I give it a chance even the teeniest one to be happy?

So confused and guilty

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AlwaysMessingUp · 05/12/2019 20:11

@bathwaterblues I have no answers or useful advice really, other than to say don't rush to make a decision. There is so much at stake. Take some time to yourself to properly think it all through. I get how painful it is.

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bathwaterblues · 05/12/2019 20:17

Thanks for your reply. I can't talk to anyone else about this.

I'm so ashamed of what I've done - I've had so many chances to stop messaging him, not to go and meet, not to answer the phone etc etc

I just can't stop myself, it's like I'm drawn to him. I've been shaking all week - my stomach churning and whenever I think about the way he looked at me....well.... Blush

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AlwaysMessingUp · 05/12/2019 20:49

@bathwaterblues. It is bloody hard, I get that, no judgments from me, that's for sure, given the emotional mess I have got myself in over a woman when I am married with 3 small kids.

Would there be any value in going to talk to a counsellor? They will offer no judgment either and it might help to think and talk through the whole thing with someone totally neutral?

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MrsElbaTheSecond · 05/12/2019 21:44

bathwaterblues you’ve seen this person twice and based on that and the messaging you’ve decided already that you want to leave your partners and be together? I know that sounds judgy but I don’t really mean to be I’m just incredulous that you feel that strongly that quickly. It suggests that your marriage is really in trouble for you to feel like you want to leave it that quickly, based on so little.

My story is that I have been involved in an affair for over 3 years though nothing physical has happened for the last year. It started in a similar way you describe, the absolute intensity of that connection, not being able to eat or sleep. Thinking of nothing else. My marriage was dead, really unhappy, but particular family circumstances meant that we felt we had to stay together. He was in a similar situation. For a year it was heaven. But then he decided it had no future. I was in way too deep and have spent the last 2 years shifting between utter despair and the occasional heady rush when he comes back into my life for a short while before getting cold feet again and disappearing until the next time and so on. I’ve had to accept the scraps he could offer whilst at the same time torturing myself by not having the strength to walk away.

I know you say you have no intention of having an affair and you already feel bad for crossing a line but I can sense the pull you have to this man and I’m worried for you that you won’t be able to resist. Having been there, I can’t urge you strongly enough to break all contact. Forget you ever met. Work on your marriage and if ultimately you decide that it’s not fulfilling and not enough then you have a decision to make. My marriage has been utterly ruined by my affair. My DH never knew but it’s killed whatever tiny connection we had left. My affair partner has moved on with his life. He came through the whole thing unscathed. I very much didn’t. Honestly, it’s hellish. I’ve never known emotional pain like it. And I’m lucky because no one else got hurt.

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bathwaterblues · 05/12/2019 22:18

Mrs Elba - incredulous? More like ridiculous.... it's plain stupid. It's been 5 nights since we met. And I've seen him twice in that time.

I don't get why I feel like this at all. I've done a lot of worrying and feeling guilty over the last few days and tonight I have been wondering about leaving dh after Christmas.

We are selling our house anyway and so it's maybe a suitable time to divide assets and divorce or separate?

I don't imagine for a minute that this other man is going to leave his happy marriage just like that. So I will be by myself.
But surely that's better than letting dh think all is well with our life while I am feeling like this about someone else. I don't think I have ever felt so strongly about a man, it's like my whole world has been lit up. I was walking back from town earlier and I just feel so alive and happy. I honestly can't remember ever feeling like this before.

I know you are all thinking I am a compete idiot. I'm throwing it all away on a crush.
But it just makes me think if I can feel like this about someone I barely know, and I don't even fancy my dh....maybe there is a better future out there for me.

Maybe not with this other man, maybe I'll meet someone in the future who makes me feel as good. I don't know. But I don't think either me or dh should settle for what we have?

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bathwaterblues · 05/12/2019 22:20

My marriage has been limping along for years if truth be told. We barely have sex, we sit on opposite sofas every night with a dog each and I can't remember the last time we went out.

We've become co parents, friends but not a lot more. I can live like this because it's not hard and he's a good man who works hard for us. But I think this has made me realise it's not enough for me.

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