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DH threatening to spoil holiday if raining

210 replies

Loudlady34 · 17/08/2019 08:00

Anyone else's parter horrible like this. He is a nice man and a nice dad in general. I understand he's feeling dissapointed because you expect nice weather in August.
When we were looking to book, My husband wanted to go abroad. I didn't want to as it was over 3k and I thought it would be too hot for our young kids. So we are going to a UK holiday park with activities.

Now he's blaming me because the weather's bad. Saying we should have gone abroad." If it rains I'll be making it clear I'm not happy" etc. How is that beneficial for anyone. I feel like not going now

OP posts:
Ninkaninus · 17/08/2019 12:37

Oh well now. That does change things a bit. Poor form to edit your story that way, OP. Are you actually insisting on repeatedly visiting Disney parks when he hates it?

AngelasAshes · 17/08/2019 12:51

@ScreamingValenta
“ The OP is best-placed to judge what her DC will enjoy, and decided they'd enjoy Butlins.”

Why is OP best placed to judge what her & her DHs DCs will enjoy?
They are HIS DCs TOO you know. It’s really sexist of you to assume that mummy knows best about all child related things because she is a woman.

ScreamingValenta · 17/08/2019 12:55

AngelasAshes - I meant that the OP was better placed than you to decide what her DC would like - because you were saying she could do better than Butlins for the money and should get the train to France!

AngelasAshes · 17/08/2019 12:57

So OP you have dictated three years in a row of holidays?
Disney-Butlins-Disney?
And your argument against his ideas are “kids can’t cope with heat” - and “saving money” very hypocritical since Florida is way hotter than Spain due to humidity index and Disney holidays are 2x the price of even a greek island holiday.
I disagree that he is being a man-child, I think you are treating him as if he were a child. You are ignoring his input on family holidays and just doing whatever YOU want.
Fathers have just as good ideas as to what kids enjoy as mothers do. You don’t have a monopoly on what the kids would like because you’re at home with them. Frankly, the theme park holiday is just one type of holiday. They are only kids for a short time it’s not fair to limit their holiday experiences to theme parks only.

minibroncs · 17/08/2019 12:58

No, poor form is posters misrepresenting the op's previous thread to suit their own narrative. He took them, it wasn't something she "made" them do - AS it yourself:

He took us to disneyworld florida last year, a wonderful thing to do for his family. We chatted about how he would be before we went and he promised that he would at least try to appear that he's enjoying himself. I spent the time constantly looking at his face knowing he wanted to be anywhere but there.

He's not nice.

AngelasAshes · 17/08/2019 12:59

@ScreamingValenta
Yes, suggested the Chunnel & France because OP said her DH wanted a holiday abroad...I was suggesting the type of holiday her DH wanted but at same price as Butlins. It wasn’t my holiday idea..it was her DHs holiday idea but within OPs budget.

minibroncs · 17/08/2019 13:03

Wow, so keen to attack the op people cannot even be bothered to test the spurious assertions made by a single random poster before piling on.

Put the pitchforks down, eh?

Ninkaninus · 17/08/2019 13:33

Fair enough! He sounds more of a twat every time I read about him. And yes that was poor form on the part of whatever poster it was who wilfully misrepresented that previous thread. Ffs I don’t have time to fact check people’s comments, it’ would be nice if one could sometimes take things at face value.

Seriously OP why do you even holiday with him? I’d tell him that from now on he can go off and please himself and you will take your children on holiday trips alone. I’d bet they and you would be much happier.

gingersausage · 17/08/2019 13:38

@AngelasAshes don’t be such a bloody snob about Butlins. That £800 has got them entertainment suitable for small children for the duration of the holiday along with a nice apartment. What the hell are they going to do that’s so much better in “France” (it’s a big country by the way)? Anything they do is going cost extra money. Butlins may not be perfect, but apart from food it’s all paid for in advance.

NoNoNoOohmaybe · 17/08/2019 13:50

Hmm, your holidays do seem to be all about the kids and that would piss me off so I have some sympathy for your husband if that's not what he enjoys.

It's all about balance. On our holidays we pick the location for us and then find stuff to do for the kids, but we alternate that we stuff we want to do. I don't think kids need to wall-to-wall entertainment and actually that can overstimulate them.

bloodywhitecat · 17/08/2019 15:56

He needs a seriously large slice of Grow Up pie.

Shoxfordian · 17/08/2019 16:15

He's acting like a child
Tell him to drop the attitude

AngelasAshes · 17/08/2019 16:55

@gingersausage
Butlins is quite simply commercialised, pre-packaged entertainment. It’s one step up from a telly. I have the exact same issue with Disney cruises which are ten times the price of Butlins so it’s not snobbery in terms of money. Rather in terms of quality.
I’m an outdoors sort of parent. I personally found kids have more fun with hands on activities. Just camping by a stream in France and wading & playing, catching minnows, making mud pies & engaging with French kids is more fun & memorable than watching a mascot in a furry costume doing a sing along & hokey pokey or navigating masses of sweaty people in an over crowded indoor pool.
Oh, and it does not cost “extra money”

gingersausage · 17/08/2019 17:07

Oh for god’s sake, we can’t all be yummy mummy perfect parents. Sometimes Butlins is just bloody good fun for little ones.

Inniu · 17/08/2019 17:32

Can you not try to reach an agreement about holidays instead of it always being somewhere the kids will love and your DH will hate.

You seem to dictate the holidays and then get annoyed because your DH doesn’t enjoy them

MrsMozartMkII · 17/08/2019 18:15

Used to love the odd holiday to Butlins when we were kids. Still remember them fondly. We also had loads of days out messing about in streams and playing in the countryside.

LolaSmiles · 17/08/2019 18:41

He shouldn't be moody about it, however I understand him letting off steam and being irritated.

If I'm having one holiday a year then I want to enjoy it, not be railroaded into something I won't like so I go into it knowing I won't like it. Add in the almost inevitable bad weather and I would feel the same as him.

DH can tell when I'm putting on my "that's nice and I'm really enjoying this" face whilst actually disliking it because he knows me well.it would beodd for one half of a couple to not be able to tell.

If he's done Disney already because he knows the kids will enjoy it (even if he hates it) and is going again the that's not someone who is a twat.

I think he needs to get over Butlins this year but then you need to have some proper discussion about holidays because you can't say Disney is fine but Spain is too hot etc.

rookiemere · 17/08/2019 18:45

Disney world florida is a strange holiday to repeat if you didn't enjoy it wholeheartedly the first time - for one thing it costs a blinking fortune and we went when the exchange rate was a lot better.

It does feel as if DH doesn't get much of a say in holiday choices- unless he was the one actively campaigning for Florida again.

DS loves Center Parcs and would gladly spend every single holiday there, but as DH is less keen - no mountains apparently and feels hemmed in, I love the traffic free environment- we compromise and go to other destinations as well .

Nonnymum · 17/08/2019 18:50

He is being ridiculous. Its not impossible to still have a lovely time in the rain. Its too hot in Spain in August for small children anyway.

Passthecherrycoke · 17/08/2019 19:13

See @AngelasAshes I think that sounds totally shit, and I usually find people who champion those kind of holidays just can’t afford anything else

DBML · 17/08/2019 19:40

Op, I’m currently on holiday in Florida. It’s rained all afternoon, every day for the last three weeks...
Unfortunately no one can control the rain, it doesn’t matter where you go or how much you paid.
Ignore him, just as you would a stroppy teen and hopefully if he’s a nice dad as you say he is, he will love seeing his kids happy, even if they are just splashing around in their wellington boots.

DBML · 17/08/2019 19:43

@AngelasAshes

How dare you say that about a Disney Cruise!! Lol
They’re my favourites 🥰

TheInvestigator · 17/08/2019 19:43

@DBML
It's the rainy season in Florida. You would have been expecting rain when you booked for August in Florida.
Rain is not expected in Spain at this time of year so if they had gone to Spain, it's a safe bet that it wouldn't rain. Rain is Britain is common all year round so choosing to holiday here means you would plan for rain just incase.

DBML · 17/08/2019 19:50

@Theinvestigator...

True, but I’ve spent every summer in Florida for the past 15 years and we’ve never had rain like this.

I also went to Greece for a week in late August quite a few years ago and they had a few days of hail as big as golf balls almost! Very unexpected.

I get that it’s pretty much s given in the UK, but they’ll still find fun things to do and no decent dad could not join in if he sees his little ones having fun.

youarenotkiddingme · 17/08/2019 19:54

I've experienced the golf ball hail in Greece! It's a sight to behold!

I'm also off to Spain next week. It better flipping we'll be 30° Grin

I am - however - taking rainmacs because let's face it. Anywhere on earth can have rain and a Mediterranean storm is epic!

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