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Help! Recovering after husband cheated

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QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 10:31

Ok new to this, I’ve read a million things on fixing things and moving forward but I’m in a real pickle so here goes...
I’ve been with my partner for 20 years this year and 2 children later. We met young at 16 and had our first child at 18. We’ve not really had the family around us to support us, it’s only ever been us. We have had our ups and downs, we’ve both always worked full time. We’ve struggled with a lot over the years, we lost our house and moved to rented accommodation, sold the house for less than we bought it for but in hindsight it was a moneypit and wasn’t best advised on when and what to buy. So we accumulated some debt selling but didn’t want to be stuck with it so decided that was the best thing to do. Partner struggled with depression and I dealt with it the best I could. There’s so much help for the depressed individual (once they finally seek help), but now years in as we’ve struggled I’ve soon realised after he resents me for not doing enough that no one helps the family of the depressed person. When he came onto medication, and we spoke to the doctor. I took anything that was a burden or an extra challenge and made arrangements to ease things for him and us to allow him to recover in his own time, such as getting a cleaner, getting someone to do the school runs, prepping meals in advance - the usual bickering that’s involved in daily operations of running a family. I invited him to family day trips and encouraged him to go to the gym and made sure he ate well and slept well. I did what I thought was best. 3 years into depression, it was a shock to hear he wanted to leave me. He said I didn’t support him through his depression and isolated him out of the family. This hurt so badly and was such a shock. I was so upset and tried to explain the processes of the last 3 years, to be fair I didn’t expect it to last so long and though eventually he’d get well enough to start picking things back up but didn’t put any pressure on him to do so. And after some deep conversations we decided to try again. To find out a couple of months after he’s had an affair with someone from the gym. My world has been shattered by this point, of all the things we’ve gotten over the last 20 years he’s done a lot of things but he’s always been the most loyal human. And I felt so hurt as you can imagine. After 6 weeks of begging and apologising for failing him he agreed to try again. This happened in January and now he just hates me, he resents me, says I’m forcing him to stay when he doesn’t want to. We are living apart at the moment and I can’t bare it. I can’t bare being separated. The children are pining for him and asking when he’s coming g home. My issue is, I’m cross at him but I understand he was lonely and feel like I can forgive him. But it’s gotten to the point where my ‘abandoning’ him has become more of a thing than him cheating. He just makes me feel like a bad person and I cry every single day second guessing every decision I ever made thinking I was doing what’s best for him, us and the children. My question is, how do we overcome this? It’s 20 years of our life. I’m only 36. I want another 20 years plus with this man. I think what’s this blip in a lifetime? I feel like I’m always trying to convince him! We had a good life, good jobs and brilliant kids. I just don’t understand why we’re not good enough? Please give me some advice and sorry it’s so wordy

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TheStuffedPenguin · 13/07/2019 10:06

All you are doing on this thread is using posters to continue the conversation you can’t have with him

and to talk about him as opposed to thinking about her future. You are spot on beer

ScreamingLadySutch · 13/07/2019 11:20

Queen, you are completely abused and this is making you cling on harder, it is called 'the trauma bond'.

Please go onto youtube and watch a few talks about 'narcissistic abuse'.

The only solution to save you from his cruelty is NO CONTACT. You are addicted and obsessed with him, YOU need to go 'cold turkey'. Please believe me when I tell you that you are addicted to him, you are! You are so ground down you think your only source of happiness is him and you are clinging on.

CUT YOURSELF OFF. DO NOT CONTACT HIM. Like any addiction it is agony at first, but the longer you do it the less abuse and contempt and rejection you get, the calmer and more peaceful life gets. Eventually (but this does take a long time) you wonder what you ever saw in him because he is so nasty.

But you must focus on you, your challenge is 'from today I am going to live without him even if I think I will die' and stick to that. It actually is where happiness lies. HIs cruelty makes you unhappy and HE WILL NEVER CHANGE. Let go, @QueenOfFireFighting you will survive.

ScreamingLadySutch · 13/07/2019 11:37

Stop focusing on what he is doing, not doing, saying, not saying.

THIS IS ABOUT YOU. You need to find the courage from somewhere to cut contact;

and focus ONLY ON YOU. That means focusing only on standing on your own two feet, living with your loneliness, living with your fears, your doubts, your pain, your grief, your hurt, your upset, your terror. AND STAYING THERE - with you. You need to be a best friend and not give up on you, not try and short cut this horrible place by reaching out to him, hoping he will change, be different, be the answer. YOU are your answer.

It is a intense type of spiritual work but if you face your addiction and focus on not feeding your addiction, there is the door away from this fear and pain.

75Renarde · 13/07/2019 16:14

Superb advice @ScreamingLadySutch

MiraculousMarinette · 13/07/2019 16:36

You keep saying you don't want to be alone, don't want to be a single parent, but you already are. You're already there and have been for a while. It won't get any worse than this. You'll adapt, you will find peace and hopefully some self-respect. There's so much more to life than being with someone.

QueenOfFireFighting · 13/07/2019 20:51

Sorry for the silence. Trying to let everyone's words sink in and avoid battling with myself and finding reasons why I think you're all wrong and still thinking it's fixable.
It's the weekend, it's been a test.
The girls have been at friends, I've struggled to not message asking what he's doing or ask what he's done today. That's what I find hard, not knowing what he's doing to fill his time. It's not a feeling that makes me comfortable. But anyway, the positive I suppose if that I've avoided any contact.
I am listening to you, and it is slowly sinking in. It's just not what I wanted to hear obviously, wanted to hear about success stories other people fixing their marriages. But, I don't consider it to be an abusive relationship but it has sunk in that I'm maybe hassling him which is worrying.

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inthebackground · 13/07/2019 21:05

The next few days will be solid OP. Stick in there

SerenaOverjoyed · 14/07/2019 11:08

Well done on the no contact OP. It does get easier. The less you contact him, the less of your headspace he gets to occupy.. snd the easier it is for you to objectively see the dituation for what it is and make a decision for you.

It takes time but the first steps are the hardest.

justilou1 · 14/07/2019 12:12

Just remember that he is as addicted to this game as you are. Once you pull away, he will up the ante. Stay strong and focussed. Allow him the chance to shoot himself in both feet by going right out of his head if necessary. A narcissist does NOT like to be ignored. (It is like the lemon juice in his emotional papercut.) He will text, he will ring, etc... he might even respond to your solicitor’s demands. It will make him desperate and paranoid.

Spritesobright · 16/07/2019 08:25

Well done OP, you've come so far! It took me months of counselling to get to where you are.
Honestly, time and distance will erase the love you still have for him and you'll be surprised how quickly it goes.
And you still have that capacity to love and commit, which he doesn't. Hold onto that.

QueenOfFireFighting · 19/07/2019 12:15

Hi all, I'm 8 days in from the initial post. I feel much calmer and not so fraught about the concept of being alone and a single mum.
Kids have finished school for the summer and we all feel a lot more relaxed. Great school reports and so on.
Haven't had much contact with him, he's not been in touch much either and I haven't messaged him to question why he's not asking about the girls. I'm just getting on with it. He has asked me to not make plans for next Saturday and arrange the girls to be at friends. I said fine, and haven't asked any further details, I suspect it's to sit down and go through those formalities I brushed over last week. We've got a family thing tomorrow and will likely see him there and last time we met his family, no one knew we'd separated so it'll be interesting if we've got to play happy families again or if he's told them. I feel it's not my place to say, as I've told my family.

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AzraiL · 19/07/2019 12:49

I'm glad you're feeling better, OP. As for playing 'happy families', you don't owe him that. If he hasn't told anyone in his family too bad so sad. He's had plenty of time. You don't need to play any more of his bullshit games, or try to protect him anymore, or behave in a way that is dishonest.

QueenOfFireFighting · 27/07/2019 18:22

So today came...and wasn't what I was expecting. I haven't spoken to him for a week other than essential things and I haven't sent him any unnecessary messages.

Met up to talk what I thought was formalities, took a pen and note pad. In the mindset I wasn't going to be emotional at all, don't put myself through it and so on... started off really friendly, he said that I looked well, and he joked that I must be seeing someone now because I'm not bothering him 🙄
He said he's asked our daughter how I was earlier in the week and she said..."you're not making her cry anymore so she's fine"...
he started getting upset, apologised and begged for another try. It has come as a massive shock and I told him so. I did stay calm although felt like I wanted to cuddle him and tell him everything was going to be ok. But I've left it kind of calling his bluff, told him he's a big boy and that he's having a last minute panic and reminded him he had drilled it into me for months that he didn't love me anymore. We didn't really cover much else and this was a few hours ago and I haven't heard from him since.
What do I do now????

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pikapikachu · 27/07/2019 18:26

You do nothing. He wanted to find a new gf while you pined for him at home. Keep on going and keep thinking with your head. Thanks

GoGoGoGoGo · 27/07/2019 20:23

Nothing, leave it. You’ve done brilliantly. Your behaviour has completely caught him off guard. He’s still expecting you to be begging and pleading with him, and you didn’t. So now he doesn’t know what to do, you aren’t playing his game. Keep going.

Cano · 27/07/2019 22:24

You have broken the tie OP. You have your dignity and took your power back. You are a great role model for your DDs. Well done!

RainbowsAndMoonbeams · 27/07/2019 22:37

Please, please take this from someone who has been in a very similar position to you.
What he is doing is emotionally abusing you and blaming the victim in the situation. It took me a year of trying to make it work work with my (soon to be) ex husband before I walked away - absolutely terrified and uncertain of the future. I can say now that I couldnt be happier. I went to counselling and dealt with the emotional abuse, the gas lighting, the believing I was losing my mind etc then I filed for divorce and haven't looked back. He's been begging and crying for another chance for the last 20 months as he has realised what he has lost.
Take back your own power and live your own life. If you have children, be a good role model to them. I have daughters and I want them to know that its NEVER ok for anyone to treat them badly. Youre the only person that is responsible for your happiness.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 27/07/2019 22:58

He's starting to realise he's going to lose his meal ticket (I presume you're still paying his rent). Must feel good taking control OP.

You don't need to do anything else, start making memories with you and your dc. Start to love yourself and take care of you

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