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Help! Recovering after husband cheated

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QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 10:31

Ok new to this, I’ve read a million things on fixing things and moving forward but I’m in a real pickle so here goes...
I’ve been with my partner for 20 years this year and 2 children later. We met young at 16 and had our first child at 18. We’ve not really had the family around us to support us, it’s only ever been us. We have had our ups and downs, we’ve both always worked full time. We’ve struggled with a lot over the years, we lost our house and moved to rented accommodation, sold the house for less than we bought it for but in hindsight it was a moneypit and wasn’t best advised on when and what to buy. So we accumulated some debt selling but didn’t want to be stuck with it so decided that was the best thing to do. Partner struggled with depression and I dealt with it the best I could. There’s so much help for the depressed individual (once they finally seek help), but now years in as we’ve struggled I’ve soon realised after he resents me for not doing enough that no one helps the family of the depressed person. When he came onto medication, and we spoke to the doctor. I took anything that was a burden or an extra challenge and made arrangements to ease things for him and us to allow him to recover in his own time, such as getting a cleaner, getting someone to do the school runs, prepping meals in advance - the usual bickering that’s involved in daily operations of running a family. I invited him to family day trips and encouraged him to go to the gym and made sure he ate well and slept well. I did what I thought was best. 3 years into depression, it was a shock to hear he wanted to leave me. He said I didn’t support him through his depression and isolated him out of the family. This hurt so badly and was such a shock. I was so upset and tried to explain the processes of the last 3 years, to be fair I didn’t expect it to last so long and though eventually he’d get well enough to start picking things back up but didn’t put any pressure on him to do so. And after some deep conversations we decided to try again. To find out a couple of months after he’s had an affair with someone from the gym. My world has been shattered by this point, of all the things we’ve gotten over the last 20 years he’s done a lot of things but he’s always been the most loyal human. And I felt so hurt as you can imagine. After 6 weeks of begging and apologising for failing him he agreed to try again. This happened in January and now he just hates me, he resents me, says I’m forcing him to stay when he doesn’t want to. We are living apart at the moment and I can’t bare it. I can’t bare being separated. The children are pining for him and asking when he’s coming g home. My issue is, I’m cross at him but I understand he was lonely and feel like I can forgive him. But it’s gotten to the point where my ‘abandoning’ him has become more of a thing than him cheating. He just makes me feel like a bad person and I cry every single day second guessing every decision I ever made thinking I was doing what’s best for him, us and the children. My question is, how do we overcome this? It’s 20 years of our life. I’m only 36. I want another 20 years plus with this man. I think what’s this blip in a lifetime? I feel like I’m always trying to convince him! We had a good life, good jobs and brilliant kids. I just don’t understand why we’re not good enough? Please give me some advice and sorry it’s so wordy

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Opaljewel · 10/07/2019 21:49

But op has he promised you the world back? Why are you giving him everything but he isn't giving you his everything.

His mental health is not to blame for this. Me and my other half have depression and anxiety. Neither of us would treat each other this way and we've been together 13 years.

I hope you find the strength to let him go.

annielouise · 10/07/2019 21:50

I really feel for you. I think part of the problem is you were with him since 16 so you never had other boyfriends and haven't learnt how to deal with the shitty ones. The ones that cheat on you and it breaks your heart and you bend over backwards to keep the relationship together no matter what he does as you're only young and don't know any better. You don't know any better as he's all you've ever known. You never learnt from any relationship as you've not had them. I was taken for a mug by some boyfriends but each time I drew my line in the sand and acted differently the next time. You've not learnt how to draw your line in the sand. In relationship terms you're like an 18 year old.

He's not interested. The relationship has run its course. It lasted 20 years. Sorry that sounds harsh.

He is taking you for a mug though. Somehow you need to break the 'habit' of him and see him for what he is.

On the positive side you're still young enough to meet someone else and your girls will soon enough be off your hands. It's coming up for your time. You deserve a whole lot better and better is out there. Please for your sanity cut him off. Be adult about it, only speak of the practicalities.

Why if he earns a decent amount - i.e. you said you should get a lot of maintenance - are you the one paying for his rent? Go and see a solicitor. Break all but the basic of contact with him. The girls see him out the house. He pays for his own rent. You have to move on. It will be hard but don't look after him - only look after you now (and the girls). Stop being so unselfish. You're better than this.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 10/07/2019 21:51

Sex won't keep him
Money won't keep him
History won't keep him
Mothering him won't keep him
Kids won't keep him
Paying his rent won't keep him

Nothing will keep a man who doesn't want to be kept.

annielouise · 10/07/2019 21:52

"What if he then says....you've kicked me out, promised the world and then stopped paying the rent?"

You say tough shit mate, you had your chance. Stop being a mug.

annielouise · 10/07/2019 21:52

Or say you promised to be faithful to me in the wedding vows and that was a pile of lies too.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 10/07/2019 21:53

"What if he then says....you've kicked me out, promised the world and then stopped paying the rent?"

You say 'you made your bed, go lie in it'

Itspouringdown · 10/07/2019 21:54

Op, what you’ve written is so hard to read.
But you have to accept that he doesn’t love you. He’s using and abusing you and you have got to stop letting him. You are not responsible for his mental or physical welfare. You need to find the strength to make the break.

annielouise · 10/07/2019 21:57

He's not going to start being besotted with you. He won't turn it around. If you can convince him to stay (how low you must be to be thinking that is palatable to you) the best you'll have is a lump sitting in the same room with you being horrible, not engaging etc - until when? Until the kids have left home and you've wasted 20 more years on him? You'll also have given him the green light to cheat again. You'll be a basket case of nerves living with him if you let him stay. I'd tell him calmly it's over and you both need to move on while keeping the girls the focus of attention. Although he won't show it he'll have a pang of confidence about that at some point - especially if you go on to live your lives well with happiness and some joy. He's sucked the joy out of you. He will regret it. But what I have learnt is some men/people don't have it in them to fix things. Who wants that? He's incapable. He's not up to scratch at all.

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:00

Agree with WhoKnewBeefStew - you can't keep a man that doesn't want to be kept.

You sound a wonderfully loyal person. Someone that will be valued by someone. That someone isn't the father of your children. He's a dud.

QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 22:03

But I'm so petrified to start again. I'm absolutely petrified. I feel physically sick thinking about it, I look at him and he just looks so lost and it kills me! I've tried getting to the angry stage, but I end up feeling sorry for him and not being angry. How do you get to the angry stage??? It's been 6 months and I'm more desperate than ever

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MysteryManchild · 10/07/2019 22:04

Oh, OP. Please get rid of this absolute waste of space. You and your girls are worth so much more. This is a teachable moment for them, don’t let them think this is how they should be treated by a man. Sending love to you all Flowers

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:09

But you're not the first person to have to start again or to feel petrified of starting again - most people do but look around you, they've survived and will probably say it was for the best.

Who cares that he looks lost? He brought that on himself. You're not his mother! He's responsible for that, not you. He's a grown man FGS!

Where is your self-respect? What advice would you give your 17 years old if she had a 'man' like this?

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:10

It's that or be a wet blanket and have him wipe his feet on you forevermore. Seriously, you need to think of it like that. One is short term pain but better in the long rung. Surely you have the intelligence to see that?

Cobblersandhogwash · 10/07/2019 22:10

Petrified to start again?

I'd be more petrified as to what hideous hurt and damage your husband will do next.

Look, it sounds to me like you've been doing everything already.

He's a useless lump.

It will actually be easier without him around. A lot easier. And more secure because he won't have the power to fuck things up for you anymore.

And who gives a fuck if he's lost and scared? He's not 7.

Have you always babied him? And that's attractive?

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:12

What are you hoping to get from this thread? People saying there is still something there and hang on love? You know deep down there isn't. The choice is yours. We don't have to live with it. No one said it would be easy.

QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 22:17

I'm honestly not sure.

I feel like I can't think in a logical way, I know what the right thing to do is but I'm not sure I can do it. Maybe I'm scared of people knowing we've failed, maybe I'm scared of what the future holds, maybe I'm scared he'll run off and live happily ever after and I'll never be happy?

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TheStuffedPenguin · 10/07/2019 22:20

He HAS run off and left you - face up to it OP !!!

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:25

He failed. He cheated on you. Tell his family.

No one knows what the future holds. It might be more shite or it might be good. Staying with him is guaranteed shite though.

He might be happy but everyone has ups and downs. Perhaps you don't want him deep down but don't want anyone else to have him.

Other people recommend the Freedom Programme. I don't know what it is but perhaps you need to look into it.

I was heart broken over a man once, went on holiday, have a holiday fling and was over him in two weeks. It's now what I would do after any break-up as it's quick.

QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 22:29

I was on tinder for a hot minute, mainly to see if he was bothered and all he said was...the sooner you have sex with someone the sooner you stop pestering me....and I realised I was NOT ready and deleted the app 🙈

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QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 22:30

Anyway, off to bed now. But thanks everyone for your advice. I'll look into the things mentioned and try and refocus.

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annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:32

If he has left all that there is to talk about now are the practicalities. He's left - physically and emotionally - but you're still thinking you're together and on a break? I don't get it. How much clearer can it be? He's not going to do anything while you're still paying his rent. It's just bizarre.

QueenOfFireFighting · 10/07/2019 22:39

I know, and my friends are REALLY confused by my reaction to the whole thing, as I come across as this strong individual but I don't think I am. I think I've just always had to be because of my job, so it's a bit of a front.
I suppose neither of us are talking practicalities at this point, and I've not really opened towards those conversations because I don't want him to think I'm on the road to moving on. I can't help but find it really patronising when he says I deserve better. I just feel like, yes you're a stupid moron - but you're my stupid moron

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Rainonmyguitar · 10/07/2019 22:49

I'm paying his rent at the moment

I'm sorry OP but there's something seriously wrong with your situation. Do you have any family or friends who can help you? You seriously need an intervention.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 10/07/2019 22:53

One day and one thing at a time OP. Set a goal for each day, small baby steps. Maybe one day without texting him, then the next day you tell one person he cheated, etc etc. Don’t be too hard on yourself

annielouise · 10/07/2019 22:54

His penis has been in another woman many times. He's kissed another woman. Said nice things while having sex to another woman. Do you really still feel special and still want him? If the answer is yes, you're really beyond help. Good luck!