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Can I get DH back to how he was before or do I accept that I can’t?

167 replies

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:24

Hi all,

I made this thread yesterday but for some reason it didn’t post but it’s taken me a lot of courage to actually put this out there, even anonymously. I have NC’d but I’m a long-term poster.

Bit of background:

-Together for four years, married for two
-Have 2DC, 2yo and 8wks

When DH and I got together, it was great. He was so caring, considerate, loving etc. When DC1 was born, he was very ‘hands-on’ and did his ‘fair share’. I combined fed and so he did about half the feeds/nappies etc and was generally very good.

About a year ago, maybe a bit more, things changed. I don’t know why, I don’t know what ‘triggered’ it but it was quite sudden. He was still quite caring and a good dad but something changed. All of a sudden, he left his job on the day, didn’t go in/call, despite me pleading not to until he found another one. I ended up having to tell his manager as I kept getting calls and I felt awful. As a result, we lost the place we were renting as we simply couldn’t afford to rent anymore without his wage (I was a STAHM). We had to move in with PIL.

He increasingly became less caring/loving to me and always tries to ‘one-up’ on me, like he wanted to have a higher score, eg if he changed DC1’s nappy, I’d have to feed her or if he went to the shops to get food/top-up, I’d have to do the housework etc. It’s not a split of domestic work, I don’t know how to describe it well but he wants to have some sort of ‘well I did this so you have to do this’.

He’s had little regard for my physical state since DC2 was born, expecting me to be able to carry DC1 on the day DC2 was born, carry heavy shopping very soon after because ‘you’re fine’.

Last year I promised that we wouldn’t have to visit my extended family this year (they don’t get on, I don’t have any close blood relatives so it’s not a case of both close and extended family, it’s just extended) but circumstances have changed since DC2 was born so I agreed we’d go to see them. DH was raging. They pay for travel (very kindly, they’re very well off) so it’s not a financial issue, he just doesn’t want to go. He’s said we can go but I have to do everything he asks eg if he wants a coffee, make him a coffee, I can’t have a bath because I take too long, I can’t take DC’s out unless he agrees. The worst part is DC2 is a terrible sleeper and DH keeps making me stay up until about 1am even though I’m exhausted. He’s refused to do anything really this time; every nappy/bottle/feed (combine feeding again), bath etc I have to do. He just refuses. He refuses to work again so I have to return to work in a few weeks which I’m dreading as I don’t want to leave DC2 so early and I’m worried my milk will dry up (he only has one bottle at night, rest is me). He also refuses to move out of PIL’s house. He claims we’re saving money (we’re not, we’re giving them the same as our rent before now I’m having an income) and I have to do all of the housework, DH will tidy the communal living room up but that’s it. I have to do the rest.

Typing all that, it seems such a ridiculous situation but it’s only recently since the travelling part and how he’s reacted that I’m thinking it’s not normal. I loved the way he was so much before and I just want him back. He wanted another child so it wasn’t that that made him like this. Is there any way we’ll be able to get back to how it was? Can he change? Or am I crazy for either thinking that? I’m not making this up either although it seems bizarre, I just haven’t got anyone else I can ask in real life. Has anyone else been able to work things out in a similar situation and get their old partner back? Could it be a mental health thing that we could get help for? TIA

OP posts:
category12 · 29/06/2019 16:29

Gosh, I think you should leave him. I don't think there's anything you can say to him that will make him suddenly realise how awful all this is. The shock of you going might.

AnotherEmma · 29/06/2019 16:31

Affair?

category12 · 29/06/2019 16:31

But tbh he's abusing you - sleep deprivation is a form of torture - his controlling behaviours are off the map.

This is coercive control and it's domestic abuse.

fedup21 · 29/06/2019 16:32

Why are you with him? I can’t see any positives.

PicsInRed · 29/06/2019 16:33

You got pregnant after knowing him only a year? Was this his idea and/or he was really fine with it? You married after 1st child born? His behaviour changed at the 2 year point, coinciding with 2nd child and greater dependency?

Do you think you may have been love bombed and he is now in the devalue stage?

What do you know of his previous relationships?

MyNewBearTotoro · 29/06/2019 16:33

He sounds cruel, controlling and quite likely abusive. He is not treating you as an equal or seeing your marriage as a loving partnership. He thinks he is above you, better than you and that you should do whatever he says.

It sounds like you and the kids would be better off without him. If you don’t leave your children are going to grow up thinking that it’s normsl for a husband to treat his children in this way.

DisputedChair · 29/06/2019 16:33

You’re asking the wrong question, OP. It’s not a matter of getting the old one back, it’s a matter of getting away from the one you have now.

Thesearmsofmine · 29/06/2019 16:33

This is abusive behaviour.

At first when you said about leaving his job all of a sudden I thought maybe he is depressed? But then I read on and his behaviour is controlling. What do his parents have to say about all this?

Please leave him for the your own sake and your daughters.

CarolDanvers · 29/06/2019 16:34

Honestly? I don't think four years is a long time in which to have married and had two children with someone. By that I mean I think it's not a particularly long time for a shit person to be able to keep up an act. I imagine he was always like this but managed to pretend he wasn't for that amount of time.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:35

@AnotherEmma I have thought of that but where we live everyone knows everyone and he doesn't really leave the house much at all, it is possible I suppose.

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Pipandmum · 29/06/2019 16:36

Can’t you go visit your family without him? Maybe some time apart would help. But frankly I wouldn’t stay with someone who treated me like that.

Floralnomad · 29/06/2019 16:36

I would go visit the family with the dc and not bother coming back .

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:36

Why am I still with him? I suppose for hope that he'll be able to 'fix' whatever's wrong and go back to how he was before because I still love him an awful lot, but I don't love how he's treating me.

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Singlenotsingle · 29/06/2019 16:37

LTB. You can't live like this. Maybe show him this thread so he can see how desperate you are?

AnotherEmma · 29/06/2019 16:37

Don't show his this thread FFS

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:38

I know abuse comes in many forms but just to make it clear he's never hurt me and definitely wouldn't touch the DC. I'm not minimising other forms of abuse but just in case anyone thought he's hurt me, he hasn't.

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Wallywobbles · 29/06/2019 16:38

It's very typical I think. Trust us all when we say this is going to get worse and worse.

My exh did this. In fact your post is what I'd have written if I'd known MN existed a decade ago.

Our marriage was over pretty quickly. We had 2 DDs in quick succession and he became increasingly abusive. And had an affair that I only found out about after the divorce.

We were divorced when DDs were 2&3. He still made the next 6 years utter hell but it was 100x better than being married to him.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:38

@AnotherEmma of course I'm not going to show him the thread, I don't know how he'd handle that at all.

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Wallywobbles · 29/06/2019 16:40

I kept waiting for the amazing man I'd fallen in love with to come back. But he was the fiction. Abusive cunt was the real deal.

Thesearmsofmine · 29/06/2019 16:40

He might not be hurting you physically OP but he is mentally. Chipping away at your self esteem and controlling you.
You love the person that you thought he was, you don’t love who he really appears to be.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:40

There are so many complications to leaving him (even unemotional ones) and I still love the person he was before, hence wanting to make it work. He's still generous to me (we're not well off at all but he'd never say no to buying some clothes/pair of shoes etc).

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minipie · 29/06/2019 16:41

I wonder if something happened at work - suddenly quitting his job and now refusing to work without any reason is pretty odd.

Whatever the cause, his behaviour to you is awful. It seems you would be better off without him as he is giving you nothing and his treatment of you is making you miserable. Maybe splitting would bring him to his senses. maybe it wouldn’t. But I think it’s your only option tbh.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:41

@Thesearmsofmine I'm trying to convince myself you're wrong but logically it hurts so much as you're probably right Sad

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Tavannach · 29/06/2019 16:42

just to make it clear he's never hurt me

He night not have hit you, but he is hurting you.

minipie · 29/06/2019 16:42

He's still generous to me (we're not well off at all but he'd never say no to buying some clothes/pair of shoes etc).

But he’s not working? So whose money is it he’s “allowing” you to spend?