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Can I get DH back to how he was before or do I accept that I can’t?

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:24

Hi all,

I made this thread yesterday but for some reason it didn’t post but it’s taken me a lot of courage to actually put this out there, even anonymously. I have NC’d but I’m a long-term poster.

Bit of background:

-Together for four years, married for two
-Have 2DC, 2yo and 8wks

When DH and I got together, it was great. He was so caring, considerate, loving etc. When DC1 was born, he was very ‘hands-on’ and did his ‘fair share’. I combined fed and so he did about half the feeds/nappies etc and was generally very good.

About a year ago, maybe a bit more, things changed. I don’t know why, I don’t know what ‘triggered’ it but it was quite sudden. He was still quite caring and a good dad but something changed. All of a sudden, he left his job on the day, didn’t go in/call, despite me pleading not to until he found another one. I ended up having to tell his manager as I kept getting calls and I felt awful. As a result, we lost the place we were renting as we simply couldn’t afford to rent anymore without his wage (I was a STAHM). We had to move in with PIL.

He increasingly became less caring/loving to me and always tries to ‘one-up’ on me, like he wanted to have a higher score, eg if he changed DC1’s nappy, I’d have to feed her or if he went to the shops to get food/top-up, I’d have to do the housework etc. It’s not a split of domestic work, I don’t know how to describe it well but he wants to have some sort of ‘well I did this so you have to do this’.

He’s had little regard for my physical state since DC2 was born, expecting me to be able to carry DC1 on the day DC2 was born, carry heavy shopping very soon after because ‘you’re fine’.

Last year I promised that we wouldn’t have to visit my extended family this year (they don’t get on, I don’t have any close blood relatives so it’s not a case of both close and extended family, it’s just extended) but circumstances have changed since DC2 was born so I agreed we’d go to see them. DH was raging. They pay for travel (very kindly, they’re very well off) so it’s not a financial issue, he just doesn’t want to go. He’s said we can go but I have to do everything he asks eg if he wants a coffee, make him a coffee, I can’t have a bath because I take too long, I can’t take DC’s out unless he agrees. The worst part is DC2 is a terrible sleeper and DH keeps making me stay up until about 1am even though I’m exhausted. He’s refused to do anything really this time; every nappy/bottle/feed (combine feeding again), bath etc I have to do. He just refuses. He refuses to work again so I have to return to work in a few weeks which I’m dreading as I don’t want to leave DC2 so early and I’m worried my milk will dry up (he only has one bottle at night, rest is me). He also refuses to move out of PIL’s house. He claims we’re saving money (we’re not, we’re giving them the same as our rent before now I’m having an income) and I have to do all of the housework, DH will tidy the communal living room up but that’s it. I have to do the rest.

Typing all that, it seems such a ridiculous situation but it’s only recently since the travelling part and how he’s reacted that I’m thinking it’s not normal. I loved the way he was so much before and I just want him back. He wanted another child so it wasn’t that that made him like this. Is there any way we’ll be able to get back to how it was? Can he change? Or am I crazy for either thinking that? I’m not making this up either although it seems bizarre, I just haven’t got anyone else I can ask in real life. Has anyone else been able to work things out in a similar situation and get their old partner back? Could it be a mental health thing that we could get help for? TIA

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smallereveryday · 29/06/2019 16:42

This sounds like classic coercive control and psychological abuse . It is a criminal offence.

What do you mean by 'he has agreed you can go to see your family ' ? It's a very worrying statement because you seem to think this normal. Why do you need his permission? He isn't 'taking you' as your family are paying. If they are paying why wouldn't you just get on a train and go ? What would he do/say. If he did ?

What would he do/say if you said 'no, I'm not making you coffee' ... '

What do your friends , parents , siblings think of him ?

What do the people (PIL) think of his behaviour?

FuriousVexation · 29/06/2019 16:42

He wants you to leave. He wants it to be your doing so therefore he doesn't appear the "bad guy".

I'm sorry, these cowards are the worst. Get your shit together - which I appreciate is going to be 10x harder while living with his parents.

Tavannach · 29/06/2019 16:43

Cross post

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:43

I just don't get his lack of parenting this time though? He still holds DC2 and coos and talks to them but just refuses to do anything practical and I don't understand why.

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user1486131602 · 29/06/2019 16:43

I believe your hubby has hidden MH problems. Speaking from experience, his reactions sound the same as my STBXH when he would have a breakdown. Mine wouldn’t get help and so they kept happening all the same consequences as you, I’m divorcing after 20yrs I can’t live like that anymore. He needs help and so do you x

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:44

@FuriousVexation but I've threatened it before (about 4/5 months ago) and he nearly started to cry and pleaded that I wouldn't. Why would he do that?

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RandomMess · 29/06/2019 16:44

The person he is now is the real him, he's stopped the pretence of being Mr Nice Guy because you have 2DC and trapped so he can spend his time feeding us ego by destroying your self worth.

Only chance of him changing is you declaring an ultimatum but you have to 100% mean it and not get fooled into glad hearted efforts of minor improvement from him.

He's being a complete abusive shit towards you and I doubt he is capable of being the old him...

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:45

@smallereveryday sorry, to make it clearer I'm allowed to go whenever I want but I couldn't take both DC (practically wise) but he agreed he'd come because physically I couldn't do it on my own.

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Lordamighty · 29/06/2019 16:45

OP I have been on here for years but this is my first ever LTB.
He is treating you appallingly. Read up on coercive control. He thinks he has you trapped & can do exactly what he wants. Be very careful about returning to work & letting him have full time care of your dc’s.
You are wasting your time trying to get the real him back because this is exactly who he is.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:47

@Lordamighty what do you mean about being careful about leaving him with DC's?

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smallereveryday · 29/06/2019 16:48

Could you really not manage to go on a train with 2 children? Perhaps if your family pick you up the other end and he takes you to the train ?

It sounds to me that you need some quality time away from him to get some perspective.

What do your parents think of him. Do you have friends nearby ? What do they think . ?

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 29/06/2019 16:48

GI kept waiting for the amazing man I'd fallen in love with to come back. But he was the fiction. Abusive cunt was the real deal.*

This.

Think about it - you’ve only been together 4 years and he’s been awful for more than one of those years. Basically once you got to a point that it would be hard for you to leave him then he stopped pretending to be nice.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:49

I can't leave though Sad it's not an entirely emotional thing, practically I couldn't leave. I couldn't/wouldn't want to live with my family- it's a very complicated relationship I have with them but I couldn't stay with them like that, neither of us would want it either. I live so rurally, have been on the council list for two years and haven't heard anything and nowhere else is for private rent. I feel like I don't have an option and I don't want to move away due to work etc.

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category12 · 29/06/2019 16:50

You don't hear from the council - you have to bid for properties.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:50

@smallereveryday different country so it's a plane journey. Not just kids but luggage, airport etc.

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:51

@category12 where we live there's 300-400 people, there were no properties to bid on.

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Thesearmsofmine · 29/06/2019 16:52

OP if he is refusing to do any practical care for your child, how will he look after them when you are at work?

unboxaLoeweHammock · 29/06/2019 16:53

he is capitalising on your fear of being single but being a single parent (and he won't suddenly be great afterwards) will be easier and there'll be less resentment and confusion.

category12 · 29/06/2019 16:53

You'll have to widen your area then.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:53

I wish I knew why he's become like this. Affair, could be but then why would they make him treat me like this and have no interest in parenting DC2? Unless it was the real him all along. His mum has said to him once that 'you push and push Bouncy until she relents and does what you want' but that's all she's ever said.

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Tiredtessy · 29/06/2019 16:54

I think he’s changed, I think the real him has come out! He’s sounds vile and you need to leave before your children are affected and think it’s normal to treat your partner like this!

unboxaLoeweHammock · 29/06/2019 16:55

Ps, thing about leaving a lazy selfish arse is that it is perhaps harder first on a very practical level but it instantly feels more authentic tbh.
And then, from that point on, every small decision you make can be one that serves you, your kids, your future. If you stay with a lazy selfish man you're just treading water until you can't stand it any longer.; Then when you leave you think, God, if I"d left five years ago I'd be well on the path to independence and contentment by now.

You'll get there but only if you put yourself first and give up on him

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:56

Sorry, I'm trying to reply to posts but it's not all in order.

@PicsInRed yes, pregnant after a year together, unplanned but he was very happy with it.

Tbh we're quite young (early-mid 20's) so he only had one girlfriend of about 3 months but that was due to not being interested in having a girlfriend when he was a teenager (I was the same, I never had another boyfriend).

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category12 · 29/06/2019 16:57

The psychological effect of doing someone wrong (ie. cheating on them) is often to make you treat them worse and worse rather than guilt making you kind or anything. Everyone likes to think of themselves as a decent person, so if you're treating someone badly, they must deserve it, they deserve that and worse.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:58

@minipie I've never thought of it like that, but it's a good point, although I see any income as 'our' money, but it goes into his account because the bills come out of his account.

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