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Can I get DH back to how he was before or do I accept that I can’t?

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:24

Hi all,

I made this thread yesterday but for some reason it didn’t post but it’s taken me a lot of courage to actually put this out there, even anonymously. I have NC’d but I’m a long-term poster.

Bit of background:

-Together for four years, married for two
-Have 2DC, 2yo and 8wks

When DH and I got together, it was great. He was so caring, considerate, loving etc. When DC1 was born, he was very ‘hands-on’ and did his ‘fair share’. I combined fed and so he did about half the feeds/nappies etc and was generally very good.

About a year ago, maybe a bit more, things changed. I don’t know why, I don’t know what ‘triggered’ it but it was quite sudden. He was still quite caring and a good dad but something changed. All of a sudden, he left his job on the day, didn’t go in/call, despite me pleading not to until he found another one. I ended up having to tell his manager as I kept getting calls and I felt awful. As a result, we lost the place we were renting as we simply couldn’t afford to rent anymore without his wage (I was a STAHM). We had to move in with PIL.

He increasingly became less caring/loving to me and always tries to ‘one-up’ on me, like he wanted to have a higher score, eg if he changed DC1’s nappy, I’d have to feed her or if he went to the shops to get food/top-up, I’d have to do the housework etc. It’s not a split of domestic work, I don’t know how to describe it well but he wants to have some sort of ‘well I did this so you have to do this’.

He’s had little regard for my physical state since DC2 was born, expecting me to be able to carry DC1 on the day DC2 was born, carry heavy shopping very soon after because ‘you’re fine’.

Last year I promised that we wouldn’t have to visit my extended family this year (they don’t get on, I don’t have any close blood relatives so it’s not a case of both close and extended family, it’s just extended) but circumstances have changed since DC2 was born so I agreed we’d go to see them. DH was raging. They pay for travel (very kindly, they’re very well off) so it’s not a financial issue, he just doesn’t want to go. He’s said we can go but I have to do everything he asks eg if he wants a coffee, make him a coffee, I can’t have a bath because I take too long, I can’t take DC’s out unless he agrees. The worst part is DC2 is a terrible sleeper and DH keeps making me stay up until about 1am even though I’m exhausted. He’s refused to do anything really this time; every nappy/bottle/feed (combine feeding again), bath etc I have to do. He just refuses. He refuses to work again so I have to return to work in a few weeks which I’m dreading as I don’t want to leave DC2 so early and I’m worried my milk will dry up (he only has one bottle at night, rest is me). He also refuses to move out of PIL’s house. He claims we’re saving money (we’re not, we’re giving them the same as our rent before now I’m having an income) and I have to do all of the housework, DH will tidy the communal living room up but that’s it. I have to do the rest.

Typing all that, it seems such a ridiculous situation but it’s only recently since the travelling part and how he’s reacted that I’m thinking it’s not normal. I loved the way he was so much before and I just want him back. He wanted another child so it wasn’t that that made him like this. Is there any way we’ll be able to get back to how it was? Can he change? Or am I crazy for either thinking that? I’m not making this up either although it seems bizarre, I just haven’t got anyone else I can ask in real life. Has anyone else been able to work things out in a similar situation and get their old partner back? Could it be a mental health thing that we could get help for? TIA

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:22

@Snowfalling I suppose it would help. If it was affair, I knew he really didn't care but I keep holding onto the idea that he does care or that if it's mental health we can sort it.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 29/06/2019 17:24

Can you talk to your pils when he isn’t there? Maybe you’ll get some insight. Tell them you’re worried about him. Ask what kind of child he was..... or are they horrid. If they’re horrid, I think you have the answer.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:26

There's more I could say that may help clarify but it's so outing and I'm so worried of someone finding out Sad

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Haffiana · 29/06/2019 17:26

Lordamighty what do you mean about being careful about leaving him with DC's?

Because when you actually wake up and smell the coffee and finally realise that you need to leave him he will keep you where you are by threatening to 'take the children' from you. He will be their primary carer, and he will actually be able to do this to a very large extent.

Incidentally you are already claiming that you are unable to leave him because you need his help with the children. You need to actually take a small step back in yourself and be very, very honest with yourself why you believe this.

AcrossthePond55 · 29/06/2019 17:27

I don't have an issue with a Dad being the SAHP. He's not working, childcare & housework should be down to him until he goes back to work.

Listen, it doesn't matter WHY he's being the way he is. The fact is that he IS being that way. I'd leave.

What is it exactly that's tying you to where you are? He's not working so obviously it's not needing 'his' income to survive. You say you're paying as much to iLs as you were when you were renting, so obvs you can afford to rent somewhere.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:30

@Haffiana I didn't mean to imply I needed his help with the DC other than the travelling to see my family because of the logistics and that I think it's unfair he's choosing not to help- day to day I don't NEED his help but it would be appreciated somewhat.

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:32

@AcrossthePond55 I can afford to rent, there's just nowhere to rent. Perks of living in the country.

I've developed an attachment to where I live (not the building but the location). I've never had that before, my mum moved lots and I always felt unsettled and on edge, as I knew it wouldn't last.

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WarIsPeace · 29/06/2019 17:35

BouncyChairs I have been a single parent for only a year. I have two DCs and one of them has SEN.

Please listen when I tell you that it is easier than living with an awful man who is clearly treating you with utter contempt.

Truly, it is.

Richik · 29/06/2019 17:36

I may be repeating what others have said, but the chances are he wasn't being 100% himself in the beginning and was acting in a way he felt he should be with you & the kids. The act can only be kept up for a finite period though and he's reverting back to how he actually is (even going back to his family home as a sort of security blanket). He probably feels guilt and shame at the way he's being now given his responsibilities but he can't bring himself to do the right thing and instead is living in limbo until someone takes control from him. That's going to be you I'm afraid.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:37

I don't want to be alone Sad

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candycane222 · 29/06/2019 17:37

Bouncy I think you could grow attached to other places where you and your children weren't so trapped.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:39

It's not just the threatening re the children. He said (a while ago) that if I did leave he'd tell my family/friends 'everything' (deep secrets I trusted him with that'd genuinely tear me and my family apart and I can't do that to them). Not stupid things, proper, deep things and I can't face it. So many people would get hurt.

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candycane222 · 29/06/2019 17:39

You are so young! So many of us go through stretches of being alone - it isn't always easy, particualrly with DCs, but you can't meet someone nicer when you are stuck out in the fields with miseryguts.

wildcherries · 29/06/2019 17:39

Language matters. I'm always wary of anyone who 'allows' other adults something.

I'm allowed to go whenever I want

He sounds like he's showing you who he is. As he controls the money, and you live with children at his parents', he is sure he has you trapped. There's no longer a reason for him to be nice if he fundamentally is not. Add to that his, in your phrasing, 'unwillingness' to work, and he sounds very unpleasant.

You say you're both 20-something. Imagine decades of this for you and your children. Take a moment to imagine that. I hope you find the determination to get out of this situation. It felt suffocating to read.

Bunnyfuller · 29/06/2019 17:40

Get out now. This won’t improve, it’ll just get worse.
Do it before you’re too scared to.

candycane222 · 29/06/2019 17:40

My he is nasty and abusive. You've known this for a while too. I do feel a huge amount of sympathy for your situation and I realise it is very hard indeed, but I think you need to start planning to leave.

Bunnyfuller · 29/06/2019 17:43

And he’s blackmailing you to stay. This is horrific.

madroid · 29/06/2019 17:44

Are you sure he can't access your mn account?

First job, get the bills and your wages in your own account. Tell him it's a policy at work that you have to be paid into an account in your own name (have a word at work if possible to cover yourself).

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:44

I'm really grateful for people taking the time to read and replying, I really am.

I suppose I was hoping people would say 'I was in a similar situation, he had some MH issues, we worked through it and it's better than ever'. Clearly not.

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Thesearmsofmine · 29/06/2019 17:44

You cannot stay with someone because they threaten you, that is no life. I think it would be really garden to leave but you can do it, let him throw his toys out of the pram, people will see what kind of a person he is.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:45

He could if he went on my phone, knows my password etc.

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whatkatydidalready · 29/06/2019 17:45

What do you mean you 'think' he put your name on the loan as well? He couldn't just do that, you would have had to sign also.

What was the loan for?

Thesearmsofmine · 29/06/2019 17:46

Change your password, make sure to sign out after using mumsnet.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:47

Because the bank didn't require a meeting, he took it out online and being unemployed I imagined he'd have put my name on too? I know he didn't have a meeting for it.

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Innersmellbow · 29/06/2019 17:47

Bouncy - you were picked by this abusive man because he knew you'd move heaven and earth to keep the relationship going.

People like us who have attachment dysfunction due to receiving poor parent are often open to abuse from others without having much idea of what abuse actually is - because often it was normal for us.

Please take a look at the freedom programme online - read 'why does he do that' by lundy bancroft - it will provide all the answers.

Take your time to think it all through. Nothing needs to change right now - just watch and learn. It's exactly right to love yourself and your DC first and this is likely to mean making some difficult decisions.