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Can I get DH back to how he was before or do I accept that I can’t?

167 replies

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 16:24

Hi all,

I made this thread yesterday but for some reason it didn’t post but it’s taken me a lot of courage to actually put this out there, even anonymously. I have NC’d but I’m a long-term poster.

Bit of background:

-Together for four years, married for two
-Have 2DC, 2yo and 8wks

When DH and I got together, it was great. He was so caring, considerate, loving etc. When DC1 was born, he was very ‘hands-on’ and did his ‘fair share’. I combined fed and so he did about half the feeds/nappies etc and was generally very good.

About a year ago, maybe a bit more, things changed. I don’t know why, I don’t know what ‘triggered’ it but it was quite sudden. He was still quite caring and a good dad but something changed. All of a sudden, he left his job on the day, didn’t go in/call, despite me pleading not to until he found another one. I ended up having to tell his manager as I kept getting calls and I felt awful. As a result, we lost the place we were renting as we simply couldn’t afford to rent anymore without his wage (I was a STAHM). We had to move in with PIL.

He increasingly became less caring/loving to me and always tries to ‘one-up’ on me, like he wanted to have a higher score, eg if he changed DC1’s nappy, I’d have to feed her or if he went to the shops to get food/top-up, I’d have to do the housework etc. It’s not a split of domestic work, I don’t know how to describe it well but he wants to have some sort of ‘well I did this so you have to do this’.

He’s had little regard for my physical state since DC2 was born, expecting me to be able to carry DC1 on the day DC2 was born, carry heavy shopping very soon after because ‘you’re fine’.

Last year I promised that we wouldn’t have to visit my extended family this year (they don’t get on, I don’t have any close blood relatives so it’s not a case of both close and extended family, it’s just extended) but circumstances have changed since DC2 was born so I agreed we’d go to see them. DH was raging. They pay for travel (very kindly, they’re very well off) so it’s not a financial issue, he just doesn’t want to go. He’s said we can go but I have to do everything he asks eg if he wants a coffee, make him a coffee, I can’t have a bath because I take too long, I can’t take DC’s out unless he agrees. The worst part is DC2 is a terrible sleeper and DH keeps making me stay up until about 1am even though I’m exhausted. He’s refused to do anything really this time; every nappy/bottle/feed (combine feeding again), bath etc I have to do. He just refuses. He refuses to work again so I have to return to work in a few weeks which I’m dreading as I don’t want to leave DC2 so early and I’m worried my milk will dry up (he only has one bottle at night, rest is me). He also refuses to move out of PIL’s house. He claims we’re saving money (we’re not, we’re giving them the same as our rent before now I’m having an income) and I have to do all of the housework, DH will tidy the communal living room up but that’s it. I have to do the rest.

Typing all that, it seems such a ridiculous situation but it’s only recently since the travelling part and how he’s reacted that I’m thinking it’s not normal. I loved the way he was so much before and I just want him back. He wanted another child so it wasn’t that that made him like this. Is there any way we’ll be able to get back to how it was? Can he change? Or am I crazy for either thinking that? I’m not making this up either although it seems bizarre, I just haven’t got anyone else I can ask in real life. Has anyone else been able to work things out in a similar situation and get their old partner back? Could it be a mental health thing that we could get help for? TIA

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FriarTuck · 29/06/2019 17:00

I wonder if something happened at work - suddenly quitting his job and now refusing to work without any reason is pretty odd.
This ^^. Because up until then he sounds normal and then he's a different person. I'd be thinking mental health or something before controlling bastard.

sackrifice · 29/06/2019 17:01

He always was this. He hid it until it was safe to let it out.

Until you get your head round that this relationship with just drag you deeper and deeper down.

You need to do the Freedom Programme.

category12 · 29/06/2019 17:01

Behaviour and affect on OP is controlling bastard. MH is not an excuse to abuse someone you're supposed to love.

Inniu · 29/06/2019 17:02

I stead of thinking you can’t leave you have to figure out how to leave.
Call Women’s Aid , get support and leave as soon as you can.
Do not bring your children up with this man:

sackrifice · 29/06/2019 17:02

but it goes into his account

There's a surprise. Not.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:03

@Thesearmsofmine I should've said, he says that he's not doing anything to make up for the fact he'll have to do it when I'm at work. Wonder who'll be doing it during the night and days off.

@unboxaLoeweHammock I just don't see how it'd work. When I threatened before, he said he'd use my history of mental health (currently have anxiety, used to have depression and tried to OD when I was 17, before I knew him) and the fact he has somewhere to live against me and he'd take them away from me- I can't have that. I didn't have a dad and then he came back one time when I was about 8 and then left again (me, not my mum) and it's a horrible feeling that I don't want for my children Sad

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3dogs2cats · 29/06/2019 17:04

Please leave him.go to Women’s Aid. He will steal your money and your children and leave you with nothing. Leave him, please

Hotterthanahotthing · 29/06/2019 17:04

I would start by getting your money paid into your account You can change bill to your name .If he wants it any differently then he can get a job.
The remark about him looking after the kids means that he could push for residency when you seperate(and you must).
His mum can see what's happening and that everyone has a breaking point.

FizzyGreenWater · 29/06/2019 17:06

He's not changed.

He's just stopped the best behaviour now he thinks you'll never be able to leave him and he treats you as he really sees you - her indoors, the skivvy. He treats you badly because he despises you and doesn't really give a shit about you.

His abuse is excalating (can't have a bath, forcing you to stay awake) so tbh I would just leave and go to a refuge with the children.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:06

Tbf, we have no money as in savings (I have access to his card or I ask to see his balance online and he does show me), so I know he's not secretly taking some of it.

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FizzyGreenWater · 29/06/2019 17:08

Oh and if you left him because of his abuse and went to a refuge, no he wouldn't be 'given' your children. TBH I doubt he would really want the bother (he'll tell you he will take them to frighten you but no, he would not want full time care of two very young children, of course not! He barely gives a shit now plus you are bfeeding!)

Leave, re-route your wages.

minipie · 29/06/2019 17:08

although I see any income as 'our' money, but it goes into his account because the bills come out of his account.

Please please change this straight away. Your income, including child benefit, should go into your account not his. (Normally I would say joint account but not here).

Is it possible he had a breakdown at work or something similar? Perhaps something happened and he now feels totally incapable of doing anything, work or childcare. That’s the nicest possible explanation (the worst is that he’s always been a shit and just hid it). However even if that’s the case his treatment of you is terrible and you don’t have to put up with it, whether it is due to a MH issue or not.

When you say no private rentals available - do you mean none or none you could afford?

AgentJohnson · 29/06/2019 17:09

Yes there are different types of abuse and none of them are excusable. You can not fix him and whatever triggered the change, hanging around so he can continue to abuse you is not going to make him change. It’s time to prioritise your mental health and your children’s childhood and leave.

If leaving doesn’t shock him into behaving like a half decent human, you’ll have your answer about his willingness to not be an arsehole.

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:10

But why does he hate me? I've done nothing but support him and care for him. If I leave, my family will want me home and I simply can't do that, I don't want to live with them more than I don't want to live with his PIL.

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MrsToddsShortcut · 29/06/2019 17:13

This was me.

My ExDh eventually walked out of 5 jobs. He never discussed it with me first, despite me begging him not to do it.

Every time it was someone else's fault. Never mine. Turned out he'd been lying about me having severe mental health problems as a cover.

He ended up doing no housework, no childcare, no night feeds (I was falling apart with exhaustion). He became angry with the kids.

And he wasn't violent either until suddenly he was. After an argument, he suddenly started punching me in the face. I left after he tried to kill me.

The first two years he was lovely, charming, helpful, (I met him at work and the junior women in his team used to tell me I was lucky to be with him but they barely knew him. His manager (a woman) has the measure of him and he hated her.

Please believe me, this isn't about MH, work stress, alcohol, family issues or anything else that people or he tells you.

He is a fundamentally abusive and very damaged man and it will get worse until he ends up physically hurting or worst of all killing you and/or the children.

I am so profoundly sorry. Please don't run away from this. Run away from HIM.

I had no money, a low paid job and a rented flat. I became s single parent overnight.

I still have no money and a rented flat, but we are safe and alive and happier. Much happier. I am ME again.

Read 'Why does he do that' by Lundy Bancroft. Also 'Living with the dominator' by Pat Craven. Ring your local women's aid and do the freedom programme.

Take care of yourself and your children. You have to put them first and protect fthem because they can't do it themselves. ThanksThanksThanks

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:14

@minipie but then what about the bills? There's a loan that comes out of his account and he doesn't have anything coming in, plus the phone bills and a few other things come out so the month needs to go in to pay it.

Re work- I really don't think so. He was floor manager of a hotel, was ill for two weeks (infection) and then refused to go back and seemed to have a panic attack about going back. It's a local hotel so I know the owners etc and they used to say how good he was/nice person etc.

Rentals- none at all, not at any price.

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Wallywobbles · 29/06/2019 17:16

You just have to leave him. And as soon as possible. He doesn't want you to leave because his current set up works for him. No need for panic but you need to work out how to do it. If you don't believe during women's aid and they'll confirm it for you.

Saying they'll take the kids is absolutely typical. Doesn't mean a thing and certainly should be ignored. 50/50 is a possibility not more.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/06/2019 17:16

What do your pils say? Have they noticed what he’s like? Are they nice people?

You say you have to pay the pils rent. Can you broach the subject that you can only pay half and see what they say? They brought up this weak wanker or a cock lodger so they can let him stay rent free and feed him. Make your priority feeding your kids and paying your way.

However with the situation as is, who will be looking after the children while you’re working? It just looks very much like he is becoming the sahd. If you split, that will give him reason to fight to have the children at least 50/50 and you will have to keep him. So do be careful.

minipie · 29/06/2019 17:17

Yes you’d have to switch the bills (YOUR bills not his) to your name.

Whose name is the loan in?

What is your work - could you get a different job elsewhere?

FindaPenny · 29/06/2019 17:18

You are staying with your Pil.... Have they noticed any change in him? Does he have siblings/friends who have noticed a change? If others haven't noticed the change I would be more worried as that means that the shit treatment is just for you.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/06/2019 17:19

Cross post about the bills. These are his problems. Money should go into your account. He’s expecting you to be both a sahm and the breadwinner. You’re going to be on your knees and when the time comes to fight him in court for custody and money sharing, you’ll be too tired to do so.

Snowfalling · 29/06/2019 17:19

This is so shocking, I'm so sorry you're going through this op.

You keep asking, 'I wish I knew why he's behaving like this, why did he change?'

Does it matter why? What would change if you knew the reason? If you knew the reason why, would it make it easier being with him? Could you change him back?

BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:20

@Mummyoflittledragon unfortunately he has to be the SAHP. His unwillingness to work and lack of childcare means I don't have a choice, BUT I'm only working part-time for a while, I have the option to go full time or just do part-time so for now I'm picking part-time.

PIL's- they know, they notice, his mum sometimes says something but only really in passing and stops when he gets annoyed.

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BouncyChairs · 29/06/2019 17:20

@minipie well he said it was his but I think he put my name on there too.

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madcatladyforever · 29/06/2019 17:21

Firstly I'd tell him to get stuffed and go to bed when the hell you want. He doesn't get to tell a grown woman what to do!!!
Then I'd leave him.
WTF, he sounds like the worst control freak ever.