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PLEASE HELP - entitled, lazy, hurtful daughter in law

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LillianRose10 · 14/03/2019 21:56

Please can I have some advice, I dont know what to do

Our son has been with his wife for 4 years. We always give them money and pay for food and rent to help them out and we buy gifts for our granddaughters regularly. Which we love to do. We offer to babysit and help out with the house and driving them places whenever possible. We always put their needs before ours even though we cant really afford it. We show them unconditional love at all times. We never interfere and had a wonderful relationship with my son until she came along. We always accepted her and treated her like family. Gave her gifts, time, money, treats, vacations, days out. We have always been very kind and respectful to her. But she is extremely jealous of our family being so close and loving and kind to each other. She is jealous of my other children and grandchildren and makes rude, hurtful comments about favouritism ect.

The problem is. Daughter in law is beyond lazy, manipulative, entitled, rude and selfish. She leaves all the housework, chores, kids and bills to my son. He has to do everything before and after a hard days work while she sits at home on social media. She is very demanding with him. He cant get any rest because of her. She expects everybody to run around after her. She has no respect for anybodys homes. When she brings the kids to ours for Sunday Lunch when my son is at work, she takes over, she makes us feel uncomfortable in our own home, she makes mess everywhere and leaves it for us to clean, throws herself on the sofa and lets her daughters run wild while we try to keep them entertained, she hints at us to go and get things for her and pick things up off the floor for her. (Hubby & I are in our 70's). She snatches the kids off us when we are bonding or having fun. But lands them on us without asking when she wants to go out and party.

My son treats her like royalty. He spoils her with love and luxury. Hes an absolute gentleman and so kind to her. But hes so tired and worn out from her demands and laziness. She constantly hides money from my son. She never stops speaking about money, money, money. She is always hinting for loans of money from us. Always hinting that she wants us to buy her certain gifts and "expensive" gifts and clothing for the children. We do so much for them and we get no thanks for it. She is so ungreatful. If we buy gifts that arent expensive she doesnt even acknowledge them and looks at them as if they are rubbish and makes us feel like its not good enough for her. She never offers to pay for anything. She runs off when its time to pay. But orders the dearest things on the menu and leaves the bill for us. They have often asked for a loan only to see she has gone out and gotten her hair or nails done the following day. Why should I be funding her lifestyle. She has never gotten us a gift or a thank you card. Or even said thank you and meant it, She just wants more & more. She really has it too easy. I don't know many families that would treat her as good as we have.

She is isolating my son from his family and friends. He cannot spend any time alone with us not even 5 minutes. She is too nosey, she listens and eavesdrops to every personal family conversation as we cant get time alone with him, and she repeats it to other outside people but adds her own version of events and lies even though its none of her business and we didnt specifically tell her, she just listens in. So we dont speak personal issues in front of her anymore. I am sick of her running with stories and telling everybody our business. She is constantly putting her own business up on social media too, making an idiot of herself. It is embarrassing. I personally think she needs to give us some privacy with issues that don't concern her.

She constantly tells my son and other people lies about us and puts thoughts in his head, filling him with rubbish, that he sometimes believes. Which causes terrible arguments and she always covers her back and tells people not to say she said anything. Everytime she causes trouble she plays the victim and pretends we got it wrong. Making us look bad. She has already caused huge rifts between my son and his brothers and sisters with her lies and manipulation. They never had any conflict before she came along. He has had issues with many of his friends since she came along. All her doing.

We let everything go and dont say anything to her for the sake of our granddaughters and son as we love them dearly and want the very best for them and want to see them as much as possible. But its getting out of hand now. She has no respect for us, shes bitter and jealous towards us for no reason. We cant handle the lies about us and the horrible treatment my son endures. He is very much in love with her and they will stay together. I dont want to say anything to him because it will cause an argument once she starts playing the victim card as usual and pretending to be nice as pie to us when he's around. And if push comes to shove we dont want her to fill our granddaughters heads with lies about us and stop us seeing them as she is so manipulative.

I dont want to be in her company anymore but I will do so for my sons and grandaughters sake but surely I shouldnt feel pressured to treat her the exact same as my son. I dont see why I should continue to buy her gifts or give her lifts places or do anything for her anymore. Especially since she has started answering us back and saying very rude cheeky comments and undermining us.

Has anybody else been in this situation. What should I do. Should I speak to my son or her? I know it will upset my son and possibly cause an argument of some sort which I don't want to happen.

OP posts:
Dunin · 14/03/2019 22:31

Don’t say a word. Not to him or her. Especially not her. The moment you do, she’ll cut you off completely and you’ll never see him or your grandchildren again. It sucks. It’s awful but do not do it. I’ve seen this so many times. Until he wakes up and dumps her you are stuck. You smile sweetly while plotting behind her back. You minimise the time you see her alone. Stop giving her money. Don’t tell her anything. Shut down your social media so she can’t see anything about you. Distance yourself as much as possible from her while trying to invent excuses to get your son to yourself. Your toilet has broken, car broken etc can he help you out in an emergency. Make something up. You are going to have to be very very careful and very very sly. Be absolute seeetness and lovely to her face. Play the long game. If she’s as bad as you say then he will dump her eventually.

Dunin · 14/03/2019 22:32

ps...I’ve got sons and this is my worst fear. So sorry you’re dealing with this disgusting woman.

percheron67 · 14/03/2019 22:41

She sounds horrid. Why do you keep giving them money? If you stop, she may have to think twice about being rude to you both?

Aroundtheworldandback · 14/03/2019 22:43

Hoping someone will come along who has been in similar situation but it looks to me like you need to take a step back. By all means stop giving her presents and “funding her lifestyle”, but their marriage is absolutely none of your business. You think she’s lazy? Again not your concern only your son’s, and if he’s happy with her then surely it works for them?

Only give in time and material things as much as you are comfortable giving, then you won’t feel resentful. Sounds like your son is caught inbetween. He will defend his wife and that’s how it should be- his wife comes first. I would however be interested to hear her side of things.

Lala503 · 14/03/2019 23:09

I too would be interested to hear her side of the story. Surely your son, who I'm sure you've brought up well, wouldn't be happy and devoted to a woman such as the one you describe?

I've overheard my DH telling his mum on the phone things like how exhausted he is because he comes home and has to do housework (ie. Lala hasn't done it). This is SO FAR from true- I have very young DC at home with me and spend the whole day cooking, cleaning, tidying, washing whilst also doing my work from home job.
But yes, he will occasionally get home and unload the dishwasher.
To her this is exaggerated for sympathy and it makes me soooo mad Angry

The money aspect isn't great. I think just don't give it anymore. You can be loving/friendly without subsidising them..

Birdie6 · 14/03/2019 23:20

Why should I be funding her lifestyle

You shouldn't be giving them money for food and rent ! Paying for holidays etc, why ? Just stop doing it - she'll soon get the message. If she asks why you've stopped, say you can't afford it any more ( which is true ).

Your son might seem wonderful to your eyes, but he is enabling her to be like this AND he is happy to take money from you . Sounds to me as if she isn't the only "entitled" person in that picture. You need to take a step back from them both - stop funding their lifestyle and see how things go.

PurpleDaisies · 14/03/2019 23:22

Aren’t you worried she might be on here? That’s quite a recognisable situation.

Reters · 14/03/2019 23:24

Woah. Stop. Tell her enough is enough.

Fere · 14/03/2019 23:27

How is your DIL hiding money from your son if he does all the bills?

also what does this mean? She is constantly putting her own business up on social media too, making an idiot of herself. It is embarrassing.
is that some marketing you don't approve of and why do you call social media marketing embarrassing?

Singlenotsingle · 14/03/2019 23:31

Why are your lives so closely entwined, OP? Do you live in the same house? I think you need to slowly withdraw and let them get on with it. She's grinding you down. I know you feel for your DS, but he's a grown up and needs to deal with it himself. Stop giving and lending money. Ddil sounds a nightmare!

thewinkingprawn · 14/03/2019 23:32

Yes, it would be very interesting to hear the other side here.

FrozenMargarita17 · 14/03/2019 23:33

Yeah I'd like to hear her side..

Fazackerley · 14/03/2019 23:35

Wow. Back off. Let them live their own lives. Stop trying to buy them with money. Just because you give them money doesnt mean you get to control their lives.

GreenTulips · 14/03/2019 23:36

I agree you need to stop enabling her the more you give the more she expects

Let them buy their own food!

Do you really think she’d stick around if you aren’t all bank rolling her?

And if she spends the food shop on hair and nails, then your son needs to step up and talk to her about priorities.

Drogosnextwife · 14/03/2019 23:44

I would also be interested to hear her side. Sounds like DS can do no wrong.

You may want to back off a bit.

AlexaAmbidextra · 14/03/2019 23:46

Yes, it would be very interesting to hear the other side here.

Funny how nobody ever posts that when someone is complaining about their MIL.

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expat101 · 15/03/2019 00:00

My friend is in the same boat with her DIL. She and her Hubby have decided there is to be no more money lending going on and what comes of that, will be. The Son and DIL are in separate bedrooms and she ''goes'' to work even on her days off but doesn't earn any more for doing so. The children are a nightmare. My Friend doesn't know what else they can do other than to support their Son when he visits after a fight and when the time comes that relationship draws to a close.

Good luck!

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/03/2019 00:02

Tell him to grow a pair and tell her Fuck Right Off.... Or not, maybe they are fine and there are other things going on here....

reallybadidea · 15/03/2019 00:02

Funny how nobody ever posts that when someone is complaining about their MIL.

I did just that on a thread last week.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/03/2019 00:04

Oh come on, nutter MILs are one of the things that keeps this site going! Mine was batshit crazy - I was almost grateful my OH cheated and got binned......

Birdie6 · 15/03/2019 00:06

My son had a partner very similar. When they separated , he got the kids and he also had to go bankrupt because of the extravagant spending during their relationship. Now he has the kids 100% and I'm the "co-parent", doing a huge amount of care and admin for the family. I see more of my grandchildren than I ever expected to. Be careful what you wish for !

Epanoui · 15/03/2019 00:09

You sound a bit odd. I would like to hear the other side of this because I'm pretty sure it will bear no relation to your take on things.

SandyY2K · 15/03/2019 00:16

Stop giving her money. Make an excuse for her not to visit without your DS.

Your son could do with being smarter, but he obviously found something he liked in her.

If she's driving a wedge between your DS and his siblings, even though he treats her like royalty, there's a problem.

Sadly, he's allowing himself to be a doormat. Only he can change that, because even if they split up. If is the type of character to be pushed around...it will happen in future relationships.

Unless he enjoys being a sub. Some men do.

weaseley · 15/03/2019 00:16

Why don't you just stop giving her money? You clearly resent it, so don't. Also, it seems odd that she both snatches the children from you and also lands you with them for babysitting. Does she watch you babysitting and grab them?

Honestly, you clearly don't like her. Which is fine, you don't have to. But you're choosing to be a bitter doormat about it.