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Fiancé won’t help pay for the wedding!

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CambridgeKat25 · 10/03/2019 00:56

Hi, I need some advice on how to move forward on a problem I have with my fiancé. We’re getting married in June and everything is booked and sorted. We’ve been together for 6 years, living together for 1 and a half, and he’s always paid his half of the bills no problem. However, it’s been a consistent problem that he’s always in debt (large credit card bill each month, living from his overdraft, etc).

When we moved in, his father paid our deposit and the rest of the moving budget was covered by me alone - including all furniture and decorating, totalling many thousands of £ from my savings that I’d sacrificed much to earn (I was only 24 and not in a particularly high paid job). He saw his contribution as the large sum put in by his father. I’ve tried to let this slide and have succeeded until now, when financial tensions have re-surfaced due to the wedding.

He’s insistent he has no money, and budget sheets verify this. We earn the same amount, but with his commuting train fare and large debts, he has very little spare income. I accept this and I’m glad my income is slightly more balanced so I can contribute more to house repairs to take the pressure off us.

However, what spare income he does have isn’t coming to me to pay his debt to me. I paid for most of the wedding myself, and I’ve borrowed the rest from my dad. I am now solely paying dad’s loan back by myself, as well as having more final payments looming - plus everything I’ve already spent. On his side, he’s contributed £100 total. It’s upsetting me and the pressure is too much. I’m a freelancer and don’t exactly have loads left over myself. I also sell some graphic design bits online for extra cash. If this carries on, I’ll need a 3rd job as I can’t pay for an entire wedding like this. I’m not feeling sorry for myself, but it’s nice to get this off my chest.

We’ve had 3 or 4 very big discussions about this but nothing changes, even though he understands the implications on me. He says he has no cash, then he’ll impulse transfer me £50 to shut me up - making it obvious he’s now on zero until payday, and blaming me. I don’t see any regular or impulse payments after this happens. If I kept quiet after this, I’d never see another penny. He isn’t prepared to set up a regular payment as he ‘never knows what he’ll have left.’

Tonight he went for a beer with his friends. Fine, I think, he still needs a life and a beer is only £5. Now I find out he’s gone to another city and is clubbing. When this happens, upwards of £50 will be spent. This will be his only spare money the entire month. I also found out when I was away last week he bought 2 takeaways and lots of beer in my absence.

I am furious that I am sacrificing almost all my activities to pay for this wedding and he is doing nothing. I appreciate he is poor at the moment but I assumed he’d want to help any way he could. I want him to have a life and have fun but in a restrained way so we can equally share the burden and rewards. I’ve been endlessly fair and restrained.

I’ve previously given an ultimatum that I will cancel the wedding if he doesn’t try and save up - but his stubbornness and pride means any difficult conversation is just shut down and never brought back up. Ultimatums and threats are useless if he doesn’t listen.

I am completely lost, frustrated, and scared. He’s not like this about anything other than money. Any ideas how I can resolve this without causing the ‘shut down’ we have no matter how understanding I am in conversation?!

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Rainbowqueeen · 10/03/2019 01:00

Honestly I would cancel the wedding

It is so important for couples to be on the same page financially. You are not now and never have been from the sounds of it

This will kill your love for him over time

Move on now

It will be tough but worth it

LovingLola · 10/03/2019 01:02

Go and find all the threads on here about relationships where one party is financially useless. Then decide if you want to be in that situation but with the added legal addition that is marriage.

CambridgeKat25 · 10/03/2019 01:02

Hi, thanks for the reply. I knew someone would say this, and a portion of my mind is telling me this is the most sensible way future wise. I really really want to find a solution though. I completely love him and that’s never changed, but I wish we were on the same page with finances. I feel like it really shouldn’t be this hard to discuss money. My instinct says you’re right and I may resent him more as time goes on... but I hope there’s a resolution that isn’t splitting. I’d hate to lose my best friend over money :(

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Tatiannatomasina · 10/03/2019 01:04

Cancel the wedding. Try to recoup as much as you can. He will not change, why should he when he has his dad and you bailing him out. He clearly doesnt care enough to stop and try to help you, so my advice is stop it now before you end up married and carrying him financially for the rest of your life. I wouldnt even tell him, just start cancelling stuff and see if he even notices.

C0untDucku1a · 10/03/2019 01:04

The ultimatums and threats arent useless because he doesnt listen. They are useless because you dont mean them.

Leave him. Be is a manchild. Imagine married life. You will never be able to rely ongim. Wver. Imagkne having time off for a child? Tough you wont be able to, as he will still expect you to pay half the bills while on maternity. He will expect you to aave to have a baby. He wont.

Why are you choosing this life?

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2019 01:05

He's not poor at the moment, he just chooses to spend all his money on himself.
I couldn't be with someone who was so selfish

CambridgeKat25 · 10/03/2019 01:07

I should add that he does feel very weak and upset about his situation and isn’t immune to the fact I’m struggling with it - he just can’t talk about it which is a very different thing. The few times we seem to be making headway, he gets so upset about his finances that he can end up in tears. If I could somehow get through to him and force him to talk, I feel there could be a resolution.

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poppingoff · 10/03/2019 01:07

Jack in the wedding. You can't rely on this man.

AornisHades · 10/03/2019 01:09

He values a night out clubbing more than paying for his wedding to you. His priorities are clear.
You're paying for your lives while he spends his money on himself.
He's showing you you don't really matter. Are you going to listen or keep chucking good money after bad?
Imagine being on maternity leave...

GrimDamnFanjo · 10/03/2019 01:11

You won't be able to afford maternity leave, you'll have to return to working ASAP. Cut you losses.

AfterSchoolWorry · 10/03/2019 01:13

You can't create a life with this guy. He'll bleed you dry.

CatchingBabies · 10/03/2019 01:15

You would be insane to marry this man! Even if you don’t want to split why would you marry him and take on all his debt when he clearly is unable to manage his own finances?

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 10/03/2019 01:31

Agree with the PPs, I wouldn't rush into marriage with him. Cancel the current wedding arrangements and tell him that although you love him, he's not financially ready for marriage and he'll have to sort himself out before you can make any plans.

I'd also advise you to move out... he may love you, but he clearly needs to grow up a bit and you need to protect your finances.

MadCattery · 10/03/2019 01:32

Some couples are very happy keeping completely separate accounts. Some keep separate accounts and also a shared account, to which they both contribute for shared expenses. And, some combine everything and the spouse with the best budgeting ability handles the bills, allowing each an allowance of pocket money. None is exactly right for everyone. I am thinking you would be happier, and so would he, if he turned it all over to you, as you have already shown you have a handle on budgeting and saving. Maybe in a few years, you will find another way works better, but I think it may be the solution for the time being.

curiousierandcouriser · 10/03/2019 01:33

Another one here saying you should cancel the wedding for now. He isn't ready to take responsibility for a family yet.

Has he tried contacting a charity like Christians Against Poverty? It sounds like he needs professional financial advice and the first step is being able to talk about the issues. Not to be a pessimist, but unless he gets his finances in order, it doesn't sound like your relationship will last.

curiousierandcouriser · 10/03/2019 01:35

@AmICrazyorWhat2 's suggestion to live separately is good too. Would give him a chance to be independent and learn how to manage his life himself.

Ruru8thestars · 10/03/2019 01:36

Cancel the wedding and cut your losses. It will only get worse

SandAndSea · 10/03/2019 01:36

I don't think this is a good starting point for married life so I think cancelling the wedding sounds like the most sensible option atm. Financial issues are always going to be there and currently, you're on different pages and unable to resolve your differences. Also, you don't sound happy which is pretty fundamental.

DarkYearForMySoul · 10/03/2019 01:37

Whether you want yo stay with this man or not, it doesn’t sound like your relationship is in the right place to commit to marriage. It sounds like you’d be committing but he wouldn’t. Do you really want to commit yo something that uneven? Are you ready to support him through your adult lives and into retirement? Because that’s what marriage would mean.
Please re-think. Changing you mind now may seem really hard but it’s x100 easier than 10 or 20 years down the line when your lives are completely enmeshed.

notangelinajolie · 10/03/2019 01:37

Why exactly are you marrying this man?

MutantDisco · 10/03/2019 01:39

Imagine you have children, couple of years into the future.

He can't support them, he leaves you at home with them whilst he goes clubbing, you can't afford maternity leave, he can't support you as a family.

This isn't right for you.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 10/03/2019 01:46

If you marry someone who is shit with money and in constant debt you will wake up in 10 years with a couple of kids and nowt else because of him.

You have worked your arse of and he hasn't done anything to get himself sorted. The tears are simply emotional blackmail to make you pity him.

IWantMyHatBack · 10/03/2019 01:46

Do NOT marry this pathetic man.

If he's trying to financially control you (yep) now, then imagine how bad this could be once you're on maternity leave.

Fuck that, frankly.

SandyY2K · 10/03/2019 01:50

This is going to be your life with him. Money is one of the biggest areas of contention in a marriage.

Just as you're paying for the wedding...you'll be paying for all the baby things... your holidays.... everything

Is this the life you want?

howmanybiscuits · 10/03/2019 01:51

I'm sure you've probably seen the saying, here, "when someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time"

He's showing you with his actions who he is and how little he values you.

Walk away.

I get you want it to work out, but it's not going to. Marriage won't make it better, it'll just make you responsible for his debts and mean any assets you build up.- like a home - will be half his when you divorce. Save yourself the heartache and the money and quit before you're legally tied to this man.

You're worth more than this.