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Messages between DH and ex - don't know what to think

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Worriedandveryconfused · 02/01/2019 09:39

I’ve NC’d for this but I’m a longstanding poster. I don’t know if I’m BU or what to do next. Apologies if this gets long but I don’t want to be accused of drip feeding.

Background: DH & I married 10 years, 1 DD. We married when I found out I was pregnant. I’d have liked more DCs, DH didn’t so DD is an only. DH has an ex who is his “one who got away”. They were together through university and broke up through circumstances rather than any issues or mismatch. I struggled with this at first, eg DH kept all the cards, notes etc she’d sent him and was reluctant to get rid. We had a real wobble a couple of years in when she contacted him to tell him she was getting married and he didn’t deal with it very well. But we got through it and he’s been a good husband and father since.

About a year ago I noticed her name pop up as having replied to one or two of his FB statuses. I didn’t say anything but I sent her a friend request myself, which I admit was a bit weird as I don’t actually know her. Nevertheless she accepted so I had a snoop round her profile, as you do. A few things made me a bit uneasy, first she’s really pretty, good figure etc, second her relationship status said “single” and also although she hadn’t posted that much my DH had commented or liked or put a heart reaction on literally everything she’d posted, going back weeks and weeks. Again I didn’t say anything but the next time I saw she’d commented I asked “is that Such-and-Such?” and when he said yes I asked casually if she was still married. He said no, they’d split up quite recently.

A month or so before Christmas a mutual friend of theirs from university posted some old photos from that time and tagged my DH and this woman in them. Even though it was from years ago, it really hurt me to see photos of them together with their arms round each other etc. One of the photos they weren’t the subject but off to one side, kind of in the background they were kissing really passionately. On this photo my DH had commented “I remember that night ‘wink’” and she’d replied “I do too ‘wink’” then he said “BBJE still” and she’d responded with “naughty...but thank you” and a blowing kiss emoji. I asked him what “BBJE” meant and he brushed it off as an old university in joke, when I pushed to know what it stood for he got irritated and said it was ancient history and to drop it.

Just before Christmas he left his iPad lying around and I’m embarrassed to say I went snooping. I found dozens and dozens and dozens of messages between them, going back all year. There was nothing to suggest an affair, most of them were just chit-chat about their day, but there were quite a few compliments from my DH to her, eg he asked her where certain holiday photos had been taken and when she said which ones, he’d said “where you’re in the gorgeous red bikini”. (of course I went looking and the photos were from yonks ago, it took me ages to find them so how long had he spent going through her photos? And she hasn’t had kids so of course there’s no stretch marks or c-scar or pouch, she’s all long tanned legs and toned belly and perky boobs, there’s no way I can compare). Their recent messages talk about her moving to a city not exactly on the doorstep but where DH has to go minimum of once a month for work. One of his last messages says to let him know when she's found her place and they can meet up and he'll show her round, and she replied with "I'd like that."

I chewed over this for a few days, could hardly think about anything else but between Christmas and NY I finally asked him about the messages and he said she's been down and lonely since splitting with her DH and he's just been trying to build her confidence back up. I said I wasn't happy about them meeting up, he said it probably wouldn't happen anyway but even if it did it was just a friend helping another friend. He was annoyed that I'd snooped on his iPad which I understand and we had an argument about trust, he said I've always been jealous of her for no real reason as he's always been faithful to me. It's true that I've always had a bit of a jealousy problem where she's concerned so there is some truth in what he says.

We had friends round on NYE and shortly after midnight I put our DD to bed while he stayed downstairs with our guests. I tried to have another look on the iPad but he's changed the passcode but there was an unread message from her on the lock screen sent just after midnight, wishing him happy new year and calling him "her rock" and saying she's looking forward to the "next chapter". I haven't said anything to him because I'm embarrassed to admit I was trying to snoop on his iPad again, but I don;t know what to think, what's normal, if I'm BU or he is or what the hell's going on. I want to believe they're just friends but my gut is constantly churning just thinking about them messaging each other and DH looking at photos of her looking gorgeous and sexy in a tiny bikini.

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safetyfreak · 02/01/2019 11:11

You definitely got a problem. She obviously doesn't care that he is married with a child.

If he refuses to cut off all contact then you got your answer. The problem is you are dealing with an emotional affair, there are real feelings involved here.

If you choose to ignore this then they will likely strike up a physical affair this year.

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 11:11

I think all the he's planning to leave, you should leave is a bit premature and actually quite cruel.

However this is difficult op. It seems he still has a thing for her. She may not feel the same back, the next chapter could mean friendship only.

Personally I'd knock the jealousy on it's head. Invite her for dinner through him, make her your friend too and stop making her the forbidden fruit.

I strongly suspect you are relying on her to reject him, and befriending her May increase you chance of this.

PsychedelicSheep · 02/01/2019 11:12

Not my business or the point really but why are you a sahm to one 10 year old?!

You have 0 power in year relationship and this is a big reason why.

PsychedelicSheep · 02/01/2019 11:13

In your relationship that should say.

I know you're obviously in shock but you do sound very passive. Do you tend to kowtow to him generally?

SandyY2K · 02/01/2019 11:14

Imagine you publicly on FB (when you knows all your mates and him can see it) telling an Ex BF he was the BPEE* still ....would he like it?

(best pu*y eater ever) BTW

Littleraindrop15 · 02/01/2019 11:15

I would be going nuclear!!! He is having an EA with her and he is in denial to you but I think he knows full well what he is doing!! You need to ask him for a break or leave the guy he isn't interested in your marriage. I'd be getting advice from a solicitor if I was you!!

OopsInamechangedagain · 02/01/2019 11:21

I have a "one who got away." I won't even FB friend him let alone anything else because it would be utterly disrespectful to my DH. This woman has had 10 years to build up a support network that doesn't include your H and I would be very worried that he's choosing to be her rock over respecting your feelings. And as for the BBJE comment Confused Angry You might not want to split up from him but you do need to prepare yourself for the possibility that it might not be your decision. But whatever you do don't do the pick me dance - it's a surefire way reinforce your status as consolation prize.

Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 11:21

They are already planning to meet up. Of course he's going to sleep with her if he can. At the very least it will be candlelit dinners and reminiscing. Whilst OP is at home with their dd.

I certainly wouldn't sit around waiting for that to happen. Fuck that.

SandyY2K · 02/01/2019 11:22

the next chapter could mean friendship only.

They're already friends though. It could be the next chapter of her as a single woman... but I reckon he is part of that next chapter.

The next chapter... is more than what they currently have.

Thinking otherwise is a tad naive.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/01/2019 11:23

I rarely call behaviour disrespectful because it can be such an abusers language choice but god this is that!!!

Massive emotional affair which will lead to sexual affair as soon as there's an opportunity.

What a twat.

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 11:25

Yes but sandy they haven't been meeting up due to distance, so the next chapter could indeed mean good friends.

This is someone's life. Let's not all go for worst case scenario and make her feel as shit as possible.

She has clearly said this woman's messages are not flirty. She actually may not be interested in becoming romantically involved with him.

Not every woman will shag a married man.

Santaclarita · 02/01/2019 11:26

You need to speak to him if you haven't and tell him he's not to contact her ever again. He won't agree to that though and you have your answer then. He wants her.

To be very honest, I imagine she's back on the scene because he is her back up guy and now that she's single, she doesn't want to be at her age and just wants a guy and decided your husband is it. There are a lot of women out there like that sadly.

alansleftfoot · 02/01/2019 11:26

You need to start looking for work, get your own financial independence- your dd is 10 ? You'll be in a much better position if you do.

Missingstreetlife · 02/01/2019 11:27

I think it's a good idea to invite her to dinner, or meet her yourself to suss her out and tell her your husband has a stupid crush on her.
Get it all out in the open, see how she reacts. He will be upset but he's going to be upset whatever happens, you need to take control. Either they include you in the friendship and stop the overfriendlyness or it stops completely

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 11:29

He won't agree to that though and you have your answer then. He wants her

She knows he wants her. That's not in dispute. And I'd befucked if I let my husband dictate who I am allowed to contact. He is not going to admit wanting her.

And projecting she doesn't wish to be single "at her age" and he is her "back up guy" is some nasty stuff.

LadyGAgain · 02/01/2019 11:29

I suspect OW doesn't want him either. He is giving her the confidence boost she's needed post the end of her marriage.
She isn't actually your problem. It sounds like she could have had him by now if she wanted to. And she doesn't want to.
Your problem is him. He is in love with her - or what they used to have - and he can't move past it. He was honest with you at the start but his behaviour now is disrespectful to you and your DD as well as rather pathetic.
Once OW meets someone your DH will be depressed and moody. He won't cope well at all.
You are either going to have to confront this head on and together decide where you go, or you accept that she will always be number one - in his imagination at least.
I am sorry for you. I hope you are ok. Thanks

OfficeSlave · 02/01/2019 11:29

Counselling can't make someone love you the way they should love you.
It can't or won't ever make him feel the way he feels about her, the way he feels about you.
Even though your head must be swimming, the best thing you can do for you and your daughter is to leave this relationship. Do not accept any pathetic excuses or him saying its your insecurity. You have insecurities because deep down you have always been made to know, however subtly, that you were not the love of his life. I can't imagine what a pathetic soul woukd do that to someone, but many do. I am so sorry OP and heart goes out to you. You deserve to be someone's first choice and you NEED to teach your daughter that too.

TheMightyToosh · 02/01/2019 11:30

A married man shouldn't be having a 'next chapter' with an ex though, surely.

He needs to cut contact. End of. His contact with her is upsetting his wife and jeopardising his marriage. His wife and child need to be made his priority and if he doesn't do that then the marriage is dead in the water.

So sorry OP, you need to summon all the strength and self respect you can find Thanks

Honeyroar · 02/01/2019 11:31

He is being disgustingly disrespectful towards you. Even in public on Facebook. The only possible way that I could cope with a friendship like this is if I'd been introduced to her and she'd treated his wife and family as friends and respectfully. I have a couple of exes that I'm friends with. My husband is friends with them too nowadays. Probably more than I am. If I hear from them, usually I tell him in general conversation. There's no message that I'd not share or show my husband. My exes are my friends, and I want my friends to know the man I love.

At this point I'd give him an ultimatum - you meet her and get to have a chat with her, or he's out. Otherwise the "it probably won't happen" (but might) he's referring to is more than a friendly meet up. Otherwise what's the point in having him as a husband, and what kind of role model is he giving your child?

Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 11:31

She has clearly said this woman's messages are not flirty. She actually may not be interested in becoming romantically involved with him.

That doesn't really matter though.

It's not about whether or not she will sleep with him.

It's about how he is treating his wife. By posting on facebook he basically said to his wife, in front of a roomful of people, that ex of mine gave me the best blow job ever.

And the ex twirled and said thank you and blew him a kiss.

Ya think that's ok?

PrettyLovely1 · 02/01/2019 11:32

He is totally taking the piss!

You are his second best and he is her second best as if she wanted him she would have had him, he is her stealth boost, she uses him to help her feel better when she is going through a shit time.
Your partner is so disrespectful to you.

You cannot make someone care about you.
If he wants her let him go instead of stressing yourself out with his every move.
You cant trust him hes ruined it all.

Theres nothing better than finding someone who adores you.
Never be someones second best its demeaning and you will never be happy.

Dallasty · 02/01/2019 11:32

So the guy from the offset has made it clear that OP is second choice. He's now putting blatant sexual references to other women on FB posts for all to see and is clearly comfortable making his wife a laughing stock and humiliating her for all to see. What a catch he is.

MadameButterface · 02/01/2019 11:34

I would take your paperwork round a few solicitors for the free half hour thing. I say a fee because once they have had contact with you, they will not be able to act for your h in future as it will be a conflict of interest. So get word of mouth recommendations and pick the best 5. If he finds out, well oopsy, too bad. You’re his back up choice and he’s taking you for granted. Don’t let him assume you’ll always be there. Look for a job or do some studying. Get dressed to kill and go out and about with your friends but without him, let him wonder who you’re talking to and what you’re saying for a change. If he asks, tell him that your self esteem has taken a battering since your h humiliated you on social media by discussing blow jobs with another woman, but not to worry because you’ve got someone boosting your confidence, just a friend obviously innocent face

These things are good because not only are they good practical things but they will make him shit a brick. If you call his bluff make sure you follow through. Get yourself back in the game workwise. Atm you are in a position to train, volunteer, pick and choose something fulfilling and exciting. Don’t wait till he drops the bomb and you have to take whatever min wage fuckery you can get. Good luck.

Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 11:35

I'd be fucked if I let my husband dictate who I am allowed to contact.

Well that's kind of the point here Bluntness. If he chooses to keep the 'friendship' with the ex over the marriage with the wife then that is his choice to make.

At least OP will be able to move on and be with someone values and respects her.

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 11:35

Ffs. Do people on here see someone down and kick them in the face? Because this thread is the online version of that.

She may not want him. In fact she doesn't flirt, doesn't compliment him, accepted the wife as an on line friend, it's all him.

She should invite this woman to dinner, but saying this woman is after him, will shag him and that her marriage is over is appalling behaviour.

Yes he is being disrespectful, yes he has a thing for her, but this doesn't mean this woman wishes to become sexually involved with him. Sure she said thanks for thr bj comment, but possibly saw it as no more than banter.

Honestly. Stop giving the op a kicking.