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DH has called DD an ‘insufferable c#%t’ - am horrified

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Havetonamechangeforthisone · 07/11/2018 22:27

I have nc-ed for this. She ‘disrespected’ him (she is 14) and he shouted that at her and told her to fuck off (repeatedly) get out of his house and stop using his electricity and eating his food.

I’m in utter shock and horrified.
In the meantime DH has not spoken to her or me or our other DD for 72hours and continues to ignore us.

He’s had similar outbursts/sulks before but this takes the cake!!

I don’t know what to do. I’m so angry about how she’s been treated. Resigned/bored with the sulking. Have learnt not to initiate conversation but have to wait until it’s brought up. It’s absolutely unacceptable but what can I do about it??!! Feel totally helpless.

Any advice?

Message from MNHQ: The OP has updated the thread. Please read her recent post here.

OP posts:
MyPatronusIsACat · 01/10/2021 13:27

Glad you are OK. Flowers

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 01/10/2021 13:27

Hello everyone. Just a reminder that we do not allow victim-blaming posts on Mumsnet. There is some information from Women's Aid on the complexities of abusive situations here.

Please bear in mind that there are real people behind the posts. Thank you.

MyPatronusIsACat · 01/10/2021 13:27

@Havetonamechangeforthisone

I posted this under a new username so thanks to those who advised it is not 'highlighted' -reposting as so many kind people are writing supportive messages without realising I have updated:

I am the OP. I can’t believe this was nearly 3 years ago.
I wish I had acted on the good advice of people then. I wanted to hope things could change and improve. I wanted to see the good in him and work for a better family life.
Both the girls started developing serious depression, anxiety and other mental health problems. My focus became on dealing with those rather than being able to recognise the root cause. Hindsight is a marvellous thing. I am still struggling to call what happened to us as ‘abuse’ even now and even after all the other incidents.
The stonewalling got worse in the last part of 2019 where there was a 3 month period, during which I sought advice from the Domestic Abuse helpline who advised me how to prepare a safety plan and to start putting some money away in my own bank account. As I did not already have my own, I opened one in December. When he found out in January 2020, he was absolutely furious and told me to close it immediately. When I refused he started sleeping in another bed.
Later in 2020 he agreed to family therapy (after several threats to leave us and commit suicide if he was ‘rejected’ by us). It was not very productive especially when it came down to discussing the core issue - my eldest asking him to acknowledge he had been abusive. The first time she confronted him it was in person just before she started university and he was so angry with her he withdrew his offer to pay for her accommodation. I paid for it (and am still paying it off). He eventually agreed to pay for this year so hopefully will. In the therapy session, when it was raised he again became furious, argued with the counsellor who was trying to get him to think about what had been said rather than telling my daughter she was wrong and he eventually slammed his laptop shut (Zoom meeting!) and left. He refused to participate in further therapy.
It was another incident with the youngest DD (then 16) which triggered the months of stonewalling. Yet again he blew up at he with verbal abuse and told her to fuck off and that she had a few days to pack up all her things and leave the home. He went into her room and threw loads of her things in black bin bags and threw them out onto the driveway. I said she needed a place to live and it would be with me in my home. DD reported it to school and social services became involved.
DD also fell in with a horrible crowd and began substance abuse, her anxiety worsened, she developed an eating disorder and her boyfriend was abusive to her - she refuses to press charges. She is now being seen by CAMHS and is on intensive medication. They have diagnosed trauma symptoms amongst other issues. She had a suicide attempt a few months ago. The eldest is also still receiving counselling for potential CPTSD.
I asked for separation in April 2021 after having decided my NY resolution would be to finally break free from the toxic and damaging situation my family has become.
I have learned my husband has Narcissistic Personality traits and is behaving in a textbook manner of a covert narcissist. Outside the family, no one would believe what he can be like. My parents and brother keep saying they struggle to accept the things I tell them happened because it is so at odds with their experience If his behaviour and personality.
He begged for marriage counselling, blamed me for ruining his ‘world’, told everyone it was not his decision etc… and within a month he joined an online dating agency and took up with a mistress. Textbook narcissistic ‘discard’. The projection and personal attacks are constant. He blocked me on Facebook well before I asked to separate, tells me to fuck off and leave him alone; extorted money from me to use our family car as he wouldn’t renew insurance or pay road tax; I could give endless examples of how he controls our dog, has taken mutually owned items from the house without discussion etc…

Long story short - if your gut tells you to get out, GET OUT!!! Don’t wait like I did.

I have horrendous guilt over the extra damage done to our beautiful girls because I didn’t take action. As horrendous and stressful as the current situation is in regard to financial security, trying to divide assets (mediation failed - surprise, surprise!!) and the weaponisation of our dog and the youngest DD (eldest wants to change her surname and has told him she wants nothing to do with him if he can’t acknowledge and apologise for his behaviour towards her)… I HAVE HOPE for the future. I have finally done the right thing.

The fact his mother condones his adultery and ignores his abuse, and the fact other long term friends (there really are very few as he’s cut most people out if his life) don’t realise what he’s really like is irrelevant. We know the truth, we have many who love and support us and we are on the way to being free to live our lives without the eggshell-walking, gaslighting, manipulation, guilt-tripping, stonewalling, PROJECTION (oh the projection!!) and other insidious behaviours.

Bumping your update!

I am SO glad you found the courage to leave. Many women do not. You are very brave, and sound like a good mum too. Smile

I hope you and your lovely children are OK. Take good care of yourselves all of you.

CoffeeAndEnnui · 01/10/2021 13:35

Thank you for the update, OP, glad to hear that things are better for you overall but very sorry to hear about the scars left on your poor daughters.

If it helps to counteract some of the negative responses you're getting, I really needed to read this today. I'm just over a month into the process of getting my abusive ex out of the house and things are really ugly. Our 10-year-old child is begging me to undo the Non-mol order (via pressure from him whenever they have contact) and let him come home because they'd "rather have a scary Daddy than no Daddy" and his family (who would not take him in to give us respite during his multiple crises because he scares them) are not helping him to throw everything but the kitchen sink at me.

Fortunately, I have some good support from the safeguarding team and my IDVA and any empathy I had for his mental health struggles (and constant threats of suicide) dried up the second he turned his rage and delusions towards our child or I might have delayed for longer too. I already know that putting his mental health needs first for so long has done unforgivable damage but as I plough through another pile of court paperwork full of lies and victim-blaming, I am grateful for this reminder that I cannot let his head-games grind me down.

Sending love and luck to you all as you move forward x

CoffeeAndEnnui · 01/10/2021 13:36

*now helping

sundaydayisnotmyfundayday · 01/10/2021 13:36

Marvellous update @Havetonamechangeforthisone

I am so glad you got your lives back. How did you leave? I mean this in the literal sense. Did you go into private rented or a hostel? we own this house and I have been told I will get no help as my name is on the mortgage

vajingleberry · 01/10/2021 13:39

@Fallagain

Your ‘D’H is being emotionally abusive to you and your children. Please protect them.
@Fallagain

Please read the OPs recent update.

TopBlogger · 01/10/2021 13:39

@Fallagain

Your ‘D’H is being emotionally abusive to you and your children. Please protect them.
Hmm

Surely you saw the comment from MNHQ on the opening post about the OP's update??!

NotSorry · 01/10/2021 13:39

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

Hello everyone. Just a reminder that we do not allow victim-blaming posts on Mumsnet. There is some information from Women's Aid on the complexities of abusive situations here.

Please bear in mind that there are real people behind the posts. Thank you.

Thank you for clarifying @YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

I was going to report that poster but wasn't sure if it was reportable - I will do so in future

QueenBee52 · 01/10/2021 13:43

@LaBellina

Given how you respond *@QueenBee52* I think you’re the last person that should lecture others on being kind. You tell me to read the thread, perhaps you should read your own posts. Biscuit

😂🤣

QueenBee52 · 01/10/2021 13:45

Surely you saw the comment from MNHQ on the opening post about the OP's update??!

it really is incredulous ... that people do not read these things 🌸

Fallagain · 01/10/2021 13:50

@TopBlogger the MN message wouldn’t open for me.

I looked carefully for anymore posts from the same name as the original OP.

There is nothing like MN for posters aiming to make others feel bad.

OP I’m r

TopBlogger · 01/10/2021 13:51

@QueenBee52

Surely you saw the comment from MNHQ on the opening post about the OP's update??!

it really is incredulous ... that people do not read these things 🌸

Exactly - how are people responding to the OP's post, while not actually reading it? It isnt RTFT anymore - it's RTOP Hmm Grin
QueenBee52 · 01/10/2021 13:52

Exactly - how are people responding to the OP's post, while not actually reading it? It isnt RTFT anymore - it's RTOP

and refuse to accept responsibility too lol

TopBlogger · 01/10/2021 13:53

[quote Fallagain]@TopBlogger the MN message wouldn’t open for me.

I looked carefully for anymore posts from the same name as the original OP.

There is nothing like MN for posters aiming to make others feel bad.

OP I’m r[/quote]
You looked carefully, yet you couldn't see the date....

LaBellina · 01/10/2021 13:54

[quote Fallagain]@TopBlogger the MN message wouldn’t open for me.

I looked carefully for anymore posts from the same name as the original OP.

There is nothing like MN for posters aiming to make others feel bad.

OP I’m r[/quote]
Yes or derailing a thread whilst preaching to others to carefully read the thread 🤣

HoneyRose87 · 01/10/2021 13:56

[quote Fallagain]@TopBlogger the MN message wouldn’t open for me.

I looked carefully for anymore posts from the same name as the original OP.

There is nothing like MN for posters aiming to make others feel bad.

OP I’m r[/quote]
People like nit-picking.

I posted before MNHQ commented and I also selected see all of OP comments, which only showed 2 posts, it was only when I saw someone mentioned the OP name changed, I realised the OP had recently updated this thread.

Beautiful3 · 01/10/2021 14:03

I'm so sorry you went through this op. You are strong and wonderful. You left an abusive partner. Don't think about the what it's, they'll only make you feel bad. I'm happy for you now.

ClawedButler · 01/10/2021 14:47

Inspiring update, OP, so glad that you and your girls are out of that dreadful situation. Hopefully this will encourage others in a similar situation to see that there CAN be a way out and you DON'T have to live this way forever.

Bloody well done.

LimitIsUp · 01/10/2021 15:00

OP don't waste time beating yourself up with guilt about not recognising what was happening sooner and not dealing with it earlier. Its very difficult when you are at the heart of a situation to see the wood for the trees. Concentrate now on mending your family and putting the past behind you. I am sure that you will continue to give your girls the love and support they need. I wish the three of you happiness and contentment going forward x

JamieNorthlife · 01/10/2021 15:02

OP, thank you for your update. Hope things start to get better for you and your girls.

You are very brave and by sharing your experience and update, you will enable many women in the same situation to have clarity and make the decision to leave their abusive relationships.

Flowers
Libraryghost · 01/10/2021 15:08

Obviously that is unacceptable behaviour in any context but is there any background to this? NOT to excuse him but to understand where this anger is coming from. He is unwell or is this normal behaviour for him? Is he having some kind of breakdown or is he generally obnoxious and cannot take conflict?

Libraryghost · 01/10/2021 15:09

Sorry just seen the update. Best wishes and I am so glad you and your girls are safe and away from that abuse x

beastlyslumber · 01/10/2021 16:45

[quote Booboo24]@beastlyslumber you've missed the part where she's left, OP's update today isn't highlighted

Op I'm so glad you got put of this but so sorry to hear the struggles you're all having now. It's so easy to see in hindsight isn't it but you've done right by those girls all along, well done for getting out of there[/quote]
That's brilliant. Sorry to miss the update, will have a look now.

GremlinDolphin4 · 01/10/2021 16:51

Just seen the update! Well done Op we are all behind you! Xx